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The Great JT said:
Who knows, maybe Spoony'll start putting his videos back on Youtube.
He's already started uploading all of his stuff to his channel, Counter Monkey and all, so I really wouldn't be surprised.
 

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Khazoth said:
Baconmaninspace said:
TGWTG just fired their most talented contributor over nothing.
They fired Bennett the Sage?! (I kid, I kid.)
I wouldn't put it past them, but, at least as far as I've seen, Bennett's not as inclined to make a spectacle. As much as I love Spoony, I will admit that that is his greatest failing.
 

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The only folks at CA I give a shit about are Linkara, CR and NChick. Sometimes Todd, on his good days he's quite insightful.

So I have no stake in this whatsoever. I actually never really liked Spoony (except for the Ultima videos and Wrestle Wrestle) so I have no reason to "side" with him or not, but from what I can see from the sparse evidence out there, and let's be fair rumors, a LOT of this drama came from outside of the Spoony Prick and his camp. At the very least it seemed that Lupa was using something he said in jest as a way to get back at him for some past slight, at the worst two friends got together and got someone fired.

I love how some people like to describe that as a "conspiracy"...no, it's not. It's not even surprising to me. If you work in an office environment for more than five seconds you know that this kind of bullshit is inevitable. Spoiled, white, suburbanite assholes constantly backstab each other for power, money and status. Ironically the last one is more important for most of them.

Luckily I'm poor, black and live in Detroit so I always was outside of the fray staring in and trying not to giggle. Which, full disclosure, is what I'm doing now too. ;P
 

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Baconmaninspace said:
Khazoth said:
Baconmaninspace said:
TGWTG just fired their most talented contributor over nothing.
They fired Bennett the Sage?! (I kid, I kid.)
I wouldn't put it past them, but, at least as far as I've seen, Bennett's not as inclined to make a spectacle. As much as I love Spoony, I will admit that that is his greatest failing.
I simply can't get over people saying Spoony is the most talented person on that site. I know its all relative to each persons tastes but Spoony releases about three videos a year, and the three videos he does release isn't life changing.
 

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malestrithe said:
Nathan Josephs said:
the problem with spoony is that "spoony" isnt a character he plays. its just how he really is. everyone got a nice dose of it back when he did his kingdom hearts livestream and went apeshit on his fans.
Wrong. Spoony One is a character Noah plays. Spoony consists of Noah's rage turned up to 11. Noah does not act that way in real life. If he did, he would have gone to jail a long time ago and rotted there for some time. Calling everyone and everything an asshole is something of a No No in Arizona.

If you cannot see the line where Spoony one end and Noah begins, That's a problem.
I think you'd find his twitter interesting then. The line between Noah and Spoony has been blurred to a rather scary extent. Honestly, I can't much tell the difference anymore myself; I'm only hoping he figures it out BEFORE something happens
 

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Baconmaninspace said:
I've always considered myself a feminist, but honestly, this whole mess is enough to make me kick it into Kenji mode. TGWTG just fired their most talented contributor over nothing.
Plus, I've heard some rumors that Scarlett may take his place on the site, and I swear if that happens, I'm done.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Channel Awesome has repeatedly said that the rape joke had nothing to do with his suspension. And by the way, they suspended him for four weeks (a decision he said he agreed with on Twitter) before HE quit. Both of these are pretty important distinctions in my book.

And if all the rumors of his sexual harassment of the female contributors on and off twitter are true (Scarlett has been rumored to be searching for a restraining order for some time now with all the stuff he's apparently been doing off screen), then the feminist in you can rest easy not worrying about the Spoonyone too much.

Again, this is a guy that is so insane that he created a twitter for his dog and asked women if they would be its "mommeh". The guy has been melting down in both anger and directly sexual conversations with every woman who's even attempted to talk to him for multiple months now. And that's not including the fact that all most of his friends wanted was for him to get help for the depression that's plagued him for the past two years (look at Oancitizen's twitter. Many have tried to help and tell him they love him; he tells them to fuck off).

I would love to defend Spoony here, but he's in a LOT of wrong on this one
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
This can only be good for Spoony and a majority of his fans, that's providing he still makes any content. The rage in comments from crossover videos (especially that one with FilmBrain) is an indicator that the fans weren't too hot on all of that crap.

I've followed Noah for quite a while now, his SWAT videos are still damn hilarious. It's just a shame that his recent real life benders made it on to his videos (there was a rather awkward movie commentary/review in which he drank all throughout). It seems thing have gone very sour since his break up.
Yeah, I'm kind of at the same place right now. Channel Awesome and Spoony were no longer a healthy mix; it was time for him to go for everyone's benefit, especially with all the behind the scenes drama made public now.

Spoony's clearly an asshole, but that's always been his character, and I've always found his videos funny. I believe it's possible to enjoy an entertainer and the entertainment he provides without necessarily liking him as a person (and I most certainly do not after this whole mess). I'll keep watching, but my prediction is that there are going to me a lot more moments like the awkward movie review you described, and if that happens, Spoony might fizzle out.
 

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malestrithe said:
Mercsenary said:
What he did afterwards... that seems more of a mental breakdown and what SHOULD have happened is that CA extend the suspension indefinitely until Spoony gets control of himself again. Essentially a "We know you have problems. We'd like you to get a handle on it. Until you do, please dont come back."

Instead what happened is that it went from suspension to outright "Pack your things and gtfo"

Oh yes a smart move to take against a depressed angry person.

Thus we have this outburst of vitriol and hate. Which is complicated by Lupa dragging up MONTH OLD SHIT that had LONG been put to rest and brushed off as a joke by its "victim"
1. Why did they go from suspension to GTFO? Because Spoony did not act like an adult in this situation. He acted like a toddler and had a tantrum instead of accepting his suspension. It is a stupid business practice to keep giving people an infinite number of chances to screw up.

2. Who says there's a proper time to bring this stuff up? Who says two people can't resole something, but have other take offense to situation.

3. Noah is still responsible for his actions. He acted inappropriately and was given the boot for it. Depressed and angry really has nothing to do with that.
Again, Spoony quit. They didn't fire him. He wasn't given the boot. They suspended him for four weeks and he asked to leave. Big difference
 

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I simply can't get over people saying Spoony is the most talented person on that site. I know its all relative to each persons tastes but Spoony releases about three videos a year, and the three videos he does release isn't life changing.
It's about two videos a month, give or take. No, that's not a lot - but what he does put out is higher quality than the rest of the site (save for, perhaps, Linkara). All of the contributors put in their work, yes, but many simply don't need to put in as much. Lupa's videos are about as standard as it gets; no green screen, low quality special effects (her cat), and it's basically her talking into her computer and editing in some video clips and VO's. Yes, it's good stuff, but the actual production isn't that complicated. Then you have someone like Linkara or Doug, who make extensive use of green screens, special effects, and Linkara has different rooms to shoot in. Spoony is up there; extensive green screen use, LOTS of costumes and planning, and often has multiple people/characters involved (which is complicated if you play both).

I would put Spoony on the level of Linkara and Dough regarding the complexity of setup and execution; and Spoony is doing most of his videos by himself, while the other two have a lot of help.

Combined with Spoony's comedic timing and style, he produces a very good show if you enjoy his material - albeit sparingly.

Unfortunately he's also struggling with depression. It's not a simple fix, and anybody blaming him for "not getting over Scarlett" is an ignorant prick. Severe depressions usually last 1 to 2 years, and anti-depressants are another issue. They don't really make you happy as much as keep you out of the bottom of the well, and a lot of people grow resistant to anti-depressant medications so there's always a new cocktail to try. I don't know if CA provides access to health insurance, but if it doesn't that's another added stressor since Spoony would be taking both heart-related medications and anti-depressants, neither of which is cheap.

I don't know what happened. I don't participate in the forums on either site, and I'm not on Twitter.

What I will say is that Channel Awesome lost a popular contributor over a morally ambiguous situation, and will be worse off for it. Spoony has lost exposure, and will be worse off for it.

There aren't any winners here, and I hope Spoony keeps making videos - though I perfectly understand if he's no longer able to support himself doing so and must stop.
 

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CrossLOPER said:
Silversoul said:
From what I've found, the issue is that Spoony made a joke about chaining one of Lupa's friends in his basement and raping her and Lupa was offended.
He made that joke about Hope Chapman, aka Jesotaku. I did not see the post, despite my efforts to find it. Personally, I would have shrugged it off, regardless of how tasteless it was. Spoony should not have made it to begin with, but this is after the fact.

This is positive news, actually. Spoony can finally operate on his own again and hopefully go back to what made him popular to begin with. He may need to prioritize and focus on real life for a while, though his videos were at their best when he had a real job. Go figure.
Oh god. Another one of these situations. I'll try not to fall on one side or the inevitable debate. Some people really dislike rape jokes, and some think they're fine. Whenever someone makes a rape joke, people will immediately fall into one of those two camps, and proceed to rail on each other for not being in their camp. People get insulted just for complaining (as though being offended is a choice) whilst the defenders get cast as insensitive supporters of rape-culture (though only a few are).

It boils down to this. Either you find the joke appropriate or you don't. You're not required to excuse or validate your own, highly personalised view. All black humour depends on exploiting gut reactions from taboos and common deceny. Expect some people to be offended.

My only criticism of Spoony is his failure to realise the above. If he did, he'd know not to argue the case, and just let the fucking thing go.
 

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There's a few of the Twitter quotes here [http://deadhorseinterchange.com/wiki/index.php?title=Noah_Antwiler] .

If you ignore a majority of the page and look at the 'Crash and Burn' section and expand the 'Meltdown Gallery' you can see some of the more... colourful Twitter quotes.
 

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Azure-Supernova said:
There's a few of the Twitter quotes here [http://deadhorseinterchange.com/wiki/index.php?title=Noah_Antwiler] .

If you ignore a majority of the page and look at the 'Crash and Burn' section and expand the 'Meltdown Gallery' you can see some of the more... colourful Twitter quotes.
While Spoony is saying some pretty bad things, you have to admit Lupa and some other people are pushing him a bit.
 

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MasochisticAvenger said:
Azure-Supernova said:
There's a few of the Twitter quotes here [http://deadhorseinterchange.com/wiki/index.php?title=Noah_Antwiler] .

If you ignore a majority of the page and look at the 'Crash and Burn' section and expand the 'Meltdown Gallery' you can see some of the more... colourful Twitter quotes.
While Spoony is saying some pretty bad things, you have to admit Lupa and some other people are pushing him a bit.
You don't have to tell me, it's Spoony. It's something you come to expect from him and his content. The link was most informative.
 

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Falcon123 said:
Again, Spoony quit. They didn't fire him. He wasn't given the boot. They suspended him for four weeks and he asked to leave. Big difference
Believe me they did fire him.. i have seen that exact same PR business statement before...

You know where?

When EA fired the founder of mythic because warhammer online tanked... it was nearly the same gibberish. So please dont rule out that they gave him the boot based on what CA says.

Also CA can claim all they want that the Twitter/rapejoke incident had nothing to do with it but im not going to believe them because all this has happened to close to each other.

On the other hand they as a business can only choice is to deny that the conflict of lupa vs. spoony has nothing to do with it or else they would further damage their own business because they would basically aknowledge that lupa bullied spoony out of the company. Everyone with two healthy eyes can see that lupa was the agressor in this conflict who started it and didnt even let go of the topic once spoony was in suspention.

Not only did she announced that she wouldnt follow him anymore.. no she instantly went back on her anouncement to keep duking it out with spoony over twitter.

If that doesnt scream unprofesionalism then i dont know what does.

So who do i blame? Channel awesome for not stepping in before noah lost it. Lupa for basicly kicking a man that was allready on the ground. And noah for his inability to finaly get some serious help/and or aknowledging that he has a problem to begin with.

No one is innocent in this conflict but i refuse to blame it all on spoony alone.
 

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Karadalis said:
Falcon123 said:
Again, Spoony quit. They didn't fire him. He wasn't given the boot. They suspended him for four weeks and he asked to leave. Big difference
Believe me they did fire him.. i have seen that exact same PR business statement before...

You know where?

When EA fired the founder of mythic because warhammer online tanked... it was nearly the same gibberish. So please dont rule out that they gave him the boot based on what CA says.

Also CA can claim all they want that the Twitter/rapejoke incident had nothing to do with it but im not going to believe them because all this has happened to close to each other.

On the other hand they as a business can only choice is to deny that the conflict of lupa vs. spoony has nothing to do with it or else they would further damage their own business because they would basically aknowledge that lupa bullied spoony out of the company. Everyone with two healthy eyes can see that lupa was the agressor in this conflict who started it and didnt even let go of the topic once spoony was in suspention.

Not only did she announced that she wouldnt follow him anymore.. no she instantly went back on her anouncement to keep duking it out with spoony over twitter.

If that doesnt scream unprofesionalism then i dont know what does.

So who do i blame? Channel awesome for not stepping in before noah lost it. Lupa for basicly kicking a man that was allready on the ground. And noah for his inability to finaly get some serious help/and or aknowledging that he has a problem to begin with.

No one is innocent in this conflict but i refuse to blame it all on spoony alone.
You're right. Spoony just SAID he quit while being suspended as a conspiracy to not let people know he was secretly fired. Sorry, you're wrong on that fact. That's a very bland PR statement. Nothing more
 

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Fusioncode9 said:
And for the love of God stop whining about Scarlet. It was over a year ago, move on with your life.
I always wondered, what the hell happened there?
 

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Just saw this thread pop up on the main page. Wow, internet drama of this sort is quite strange. I frequent both Spoony's and TGWTG's page and enjoy a lot of videos from both, including the various crossovers between the two. Who could forget Dr. Insano (and the various spinoffs)? Sad to see them break apart but that's just the way it is, be it RL or internet celebrities: Despite the nice, all-around friendly facade, there's always more going on behind the curtains that we don't know about and often never find out. I doubt this blow-up was something without some sort of history leading up to it, frankly, but I also doubt we'll ever hear too much about its details.
 

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teh_gunslinger said:
Fusioncode9 said:
And for the love of God stop whining about Scarlet. It was over a year ago, move on with your life.
I always wondered, what the hell happened there?
They broke up and Spoony never got over it. There was an incredible awkward video commentary where he drinks himself into a stupor and then decides to go off on one about the good old days when he was with her. I think it was one of the Twilight films.