The Top 10 Hardest games according to some Website
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Ninja Gaiden Black?
The original was much harder because it had no easy difficulty. In fact Ninja Gaiden 2 was way more harder than both. Stupid bosses and their respawning minions.
The original was much harder because it had no easy difficulty. In fact Ninja Gaiden 2 was way more harder than both. Stupid bosses and their respawning minions.
I almost want to say that the game is just player unfriendly, that there is a difference between something designed to make the game challenging and then just flat out douchebag programming(see IWTBTG), and doesn't deserve to be on the list because of it...but I forgot Ikaruga and Ninja Gaiden are both up there. Carry on.Jack and Calumon said:
This list seems skewed. If another bothered to check out where the list originally came from, you can get a glimps as to why they think it was hard. MSG slated #9 simply because of Psycho Mantis? That's a one-off boss and you get the hint as you're fighting him! You shouldn't have died more than once. Demon Souls's trademark difficulty is the fact you have to face the first boss at half HP? That boss was a joke! It hard, don't get me wrong, but top 10 hard? Hardly. I'm also wondering why Ninja Gaiden Black was put and Ninja Gaiden II wasn't. Or even the original Ninja Gaiden? I found those two to be much harder in comparison.
the end result of this list seems to be made-up of pop culture in gaming rather than actual difficulty. The reasoning they put is mostly "this game was reputably hard because..." and put them in a top ten list. MSG because Psycho Mantis was eye popping the first time, DMC3 because they made the DMC2 "hard mode" the benchmark normal mode, Ninja Gaiden Black because when fans complained about the difficulty the re-released version was harder but included an easy mode that made fun of you. That's pretty much it.
Oh, and why games like I Wanna Be The Guy aren't on there? Because IWBTG isn't difficult, it's memorization. The game purposefully does things you wouldn't expect and gameplay turns into an entirely different concept of what you first thought. Sure, you can't "no death" run it, but a good arcade game is the same way: trial and error.
the end result of this list seems to be made-up of pop culture in gaming rather than actual difficulty. The reasoning they put is mostly "this game was reputably hard because..." and put them in a top ten list. MSG because Psycho Mantis was eye popping the first time, DMC3 because they made the DMC2 "hard mode" the benchmark normal mode, Ninja Gaiden Black because when fans complained about the difficulty the re-released version was harder but included an easy mode that made fun of you. That's pretty much it.
Oh, and why games like I Wanna Be The Guy aren't on there? Because IWBTG isn't difficult, it's memorization. The game purposefully does things you wouldn't expect and gameplay turns into an entirely different concept of what you first thought. Sure, you can't "no death" run it, but a good arcade game is the same way: trial and error.
What the Hell? Super Ghouls 'n' Ghosts is the second hardest game ever made? Bollocks. That game is no harder than your average arcade game. All you have to do is jump at the right bloody points. I actually have more trouble with Mega Man.
If I'm brutally honest, the hardest thing I have ever played is the Special Cup on Super Mario Kart. I was the first time I had bitten the controller out of rage... on the first race.
Oh yes, and I have no idea how you are meant to beat Rayman with only 9 continues...
If I'm brutally honest, the hardest thing I have ever played is the Special Cup on Super Mario Kart. I was the first time I had bitten the controller out of rage... on the first race.
Oh yes, and I have no idea how you are meant to beat Rayman with only 9 continues...
Beating Fire Leo on Ultra-V was so amazingly satisfying. I remember you'd have to listen to the audio clues and lots and lots of slo-mo triggering to be able to dodge his attacks. I beat that game on every difficulty, except Kids mode. Man, that game was fun.scobie said:
I am pretty sure there are about ten indie games on the internet like I wanna be that guy or the Impossible game that are a LOT harder then any of these games.
I disagree with number 7, Devil May Cry 3 was not that hard at all. I didn't have any trouble with it at all.
HOLY shit... That is insane...Jack and Calumon said:
Well, i myself don't like games which are THAT hard. I like a challenge, yes: Victory has to be EARNED. But when they go so far as to insult the player, or try to make him do something nearly impossible, just to squeeze playing time out of that; OR if they just do it so the game is regarded as HARDCORE and KEWL, than something is wrong.
I agree, but i'm pretty sure they automatically discounted broken games like Silver Surfer [http://www.gametrailers.com/video/angry-video-screwattack/20300]. (There's 'difficult' and there's 'ridiculous'). I'm wondering if they're following the "one game per franchise" rule so often implemented by other top ten lists, otherwise the entire Ninja Gaiden series could be on there.Xzi said:
I'd also like to toss Final Fantasy III in there for consideration. While it's not consistently hard, the difficulty has a bizarre curve, and there is one boss (though beatable) who has the ability to one-shot any of your party members, attacks multiple times, and can recover massive hp; ALL BEFORE YOU EVEN GET TO MOVE. Ok, so "technically" Bahamut is an optional boss(i'm talking about the second, optional encounter. the first time you meet him you can't win anyway), but that's gotta count for something right? Maybe not in the top 10 of difficult games, but top 30 easily.
Other than that (and giving the benefit of the doubt since i've never heard of Jet Set Willy) I can agree totally with that list.
EDIT: oh yeah... and I forgot all about the Gradius series and Contra (without cheating). damn near impossible.
agreed... well, apart from instead of crying, just forget about the game and don't let it ruin you.MatParker116 said:
my brother was good enough to get through the sneaking parts of the game, but both of us (and most the people we know) are convinced that the torture test is impossible to beat (in MGS1, it doesn't matter as much, screw Meryl, but in MGS2, its mandatory)... we even got borrowed all of our friends "non-official sony" PS2 controllers, you know, the ones with the turbo/automatic button pressing abilities. That only prevented Raidens neck coming off for another 5 seconds or something. i swear it is impossible.
oh, and just to stress how hard the sneaking part is, you can't get seen/placed into alert mode, the guard's vision is still impaired but about equal to your average person who doesn't wear glasses but should maybe consider getting some (as in the guards see you from across a massive length of bridge, just can't distinguish that you aren't one of them without taking a step forward first).
and just to stress how mad the game was, my brother sneaked through an area, disposing off the guards one by one until only one remained (believe me, we had checked he was definatly the only one)... for a bit of fun, my brother decided that just taking his dog-tags and killing him wasn't enough, so he planted some C4 on his back, took a few steps back and pushed the fuse... Game Over... we weren't too close to be in the explosion, nor had the guard put down his arms and set off Alert mode by not being 'frozen' anymore... the only alive guard had heard the explosion that would instantaneously kill him and by hearing hit, the alarm had gone off and it was Game over. That is an example of how hard MGS2 is on European extreme mode
Dante must die was the one where everything died in a single hit, right? I found that easier than the regular game, to be honest. People panic too much with that difficulty and make stupid mistakes, then getting angry at the game for putting that pressure on them.katsabas said: