The Trump Who Stole Christmas. Trump tanks Stimulus Talks, No COVID-19 Relief= Millions Lose Access to Food, Shelter and Medicine

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tstorm823

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No, you aren't.

You are voting for Trump in substantial part because you have always had substantial right-wing sympathies, as anyone who's read your comments over the last few years would have concluded. You might have struggled with aspects of the Republican platform or perhaps other elements (e.g. peer conflicts with a left-leaning social group), but really, it probably is your more natural tendency.
So, you're suggesting Spector is now going to vote properly, having concluded to no longer be bullied by people?
 

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So, you're suggesting Spector is now going to vote properly, having concluded to no longer be bullied by people?
It's incredible how you can have such bad faith takes on these things

Agema literally listed peer conflicts as one possibility, and then you take peer conflicts into the worst possible form of peer conflicts. Like honestly, what is with you??
 

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Trump is anti-human. You can try to argue with me about this, but you're wrong. If you vote for him, then you're anti-human. You can try to do deny this, but you're wrong.
 
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Trump is anti-human. You can try to argue with me about this, but you're wrong. If you vote for him, then you're anti-human. You can try to do deny this, but you're wrong.
The only people I know who are genuinely anti-human are the extreme environmentalists who actively wish for most humans to die because they think the world would be better.
 

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The only people I know who are genuinely anti-human are the extreme environmentalists who actively wish for most humans to die because they think the world would be better.
Figures the only sort of environmentalists you know would be eco-fascists.
 
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So, you're suggesting Spector is now going to vote properly, having concluded to no longer be bullied by people?
Bullying never works, unless you can back it up with genuine coercion - and that's banned in polling stations.

You can see people who say they vote right or left, and yet talk about issues in a way that makes it plain the party they are voting for does not best match their beliefs. There may be good specific reasons (such as strong single-issue voting) for them doing so, but sometimes it's just not having really worked things out.

For instance, some people - especially when younger - tend to simply conform and superficially absorb the attitudes of the people around them. If they don't really believe in it though, they're eventually likely to have to have a period of conflict where they assert their deeper beliefs over the superficial. People can also end up voting erroneously by tradition: people who stick with a party even after its and their values have diverged to the point they need to divorce.
 

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Would be awfully swell if you'd find a graph that covered 2009 - 2020, you know, the years that Obama and Tramp were actually in office?
I looked briefly but didn't find anything.

I did, however, find a separate graph where average wages fell during Obama, and rose during Trump.

The point is that this graph has been going in this direction since 1970. I thought this was old news. Costs go up, wages remain static. This isn't a Trump or an Obama problem.

"I lost my job and pay too much in rent and didn't get a stimulus check that could have meant that I could afford rent therefore Trump himself made me homeless!" Is a silly thing to say, is all.
 

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The man on my sofa keeps telling me he is convinced Trump is completely "geisteskrank" due his absurd tweets.. his tweeting is all over the place. He wonders why people don't remove him from office due to being incompetent and I tell him Trump was already that way when they elected him in the first place.
 

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What are the chances that the stimulus check will go through? Because that is basically the only thing he's willing to sign.
 

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What are the chances that the stimulus check will go through? Because that is basically the only thing he's willing to sign.
It depends on how willing the democrats are to help the American people... right?
 

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What are the chances that the stimulus check will go through? Because that is basically the only thing he's willing to sign.
I hope so, they just need to make sure they write it in that it can't be held against them to prevent them from receiving TANF, Medicaid, welfare, SSI, SSDI ect so it doesn't screw them from getting the help they need right now since it is nowhere near enough to solve their problems.
 

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Give the stimulus check immediately with protections so it cant be used against low income families to deny them other benefits.

The airlines and Entrepreneurs get NOTHING until they pass unemployment. They are not going to get their welfare for the wealthy UNTIL they take care of the poor first ,they should tie all $ for the wealthy to that of the poor. No welfare for the wealthy without helping the most vulnerable first. If they pass the money for the wealthy without that for the poor, the poor will never see help at all. They have to tie them together or GOP has no incentive to help the poor and unemployed at all.
 

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You're a terrible person.

I am so sorry I just had to push that button. Don't hate me for being that one person who pushed you over the edge into terrible person territory!
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So now you just LIE about the cookies too? Figures.
Can it be Pie? Pie owns all other desserts for free. FREE.

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I mean, it's a nice statement and I get it. But it's one with a sway.

There are plenty of people here who bash on Religion. There are plenty of Religion types here. And there are agnostics.

Agnostic forum members, when Atheist Forum Members go on a rant about how dumb Religion and how anyone who believes in Religion is stupid, do you start to believe in Religion a little bit more and think that Religious Forum Members are smarter than previously thought?
 

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Whatever, just wash your hands.
It depends on how willing the democrats are to help the American people... right?
Ugh dude. The democrats have passed like 3 or 4 spending bills in the house but the republican senate does not care and is dragging its feet as hard as it can. Republicans are split into two camps, those that think the democrats are being too generous with assistance and those that think government should not give assistance. What you are saying here is why don't the democrats give the republicans anything they want for a pittance of assistance and lose any leverage they have on the republicans. Cause I don't know if you have realized this but democrats only control like 1/4th of the government.
 
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