The ultimate weapon in the innevitable war against sentient machines?

[internetzealot1]

I would continue to say emp. But my inbox might not survive. So i'm going to change my idea to "art".

If we make the machines appreciate art, then they won't have to kill us. They will be us.

Cookie for reference. Except if you quote me i won't give you the cookie. Because i'll hate you for cluttering my inbox. So you'll just have to enjoy an imaginary internet-cookie.

Sarah Conner Chronicles?

 

[McNinja]

Biological Warfare!!!

Three letters:
E
M
P

Six letters: RYNO II (Ratchet and Clank anybody?)

OT: In all seriousness, anti-matter. Unless they are anti-matter robots, in which a gentle breeze should suffice.

EDIT: Almost forgot. Say "Pi equals 3".

Actually, if they were composed of anti-matter, wouldn't contact with any matter at all cause them to explode?

 

[tthor]

I've done a lot of thinking, and the only thing I can conceive as being a counter against a robot/machine uprising would be large-scale cloning of physically perfect human beings. I know the moral implications are terrible and wrong, but in a war to save our species and billions of lives would probably be to mass produce soldiers, engineers, and human weapons in order to fight the robot menace. Genetic engineering to make these clones close to superhuman would also possibly come into play, but as Yatzee has said before, super soldiers ultimately also lead to disaster. So for now let's stick with regular human clones in top physical condition, with growth accelerated until they hit their prime and then decelerated.
This leads to disposing of the clones after the war is won. Some will be allowed to stay in the armed forces, even becoming generals. The rest will either have to be destroyed via a fatal gene sequence or allowed to populate seperate worlds in order to save the normal human gene pool. I know it's monstrous to think of such a thing, but it must be done. Plus clone babies would probably all kinds of fucked up.

What do you all think? Anything to add to this strategy or problems with it? What do you think the ultimate weapon would be?

why not just use a few EMP warheads? the EMP blast should render all electrical devices in range useless,

 

[Shock and Awe]

EM motherfucking P

 

[Biosophilogical]

Biological Warfare!!!

Three letters:
E
M
P

Six letters: RYNO II (Ratchet and Clank anybody?)

OT: In all seriousness, anti-matter. Unless they are anti-matter robots, in which a gentle breeze should suffice.

EDIT: Almost forgot. Say "Pi equals 3".

Actually, if they were composed of anti-matter, wouldn't contact with any matter at all cause them to explode?

Yup, but I figure if the air is moving faster (breeze) they will be entirely exploded much quicker, giving them no opportunity to fire their advanced anti-matter weaponry.

 

[vampirekid.13]

snipquote]

Yes, smartass, I've read that Wikipedia article too. You will find that the US arsenal does not have such bombs and missiles. No doubt we will eventually but not yet.

i was posting off my iphone, so i just copied pasted it and didnt have the patience to actually explain my intentions, i did nto mean to be a smartass at all. i was just trying to show that the technology exists.

also, the us military has a couple of options when it comes to NNEMPs i believe, if what i was taught in training for the navy is true

also, if we are talking about human race VS sentient machines well....it woudlnt just be america, it would be everyone, and someone (if not america) DEFINATELY does have the technology.


actually in the scenario given we prolly woudlnt bother with NNEMPs but rather just go with the nuclear EMPs which we definately have

 

[Ocelot GT]

This will destroy any electronic device. Ocelot personally guarantees it!

 

[xDarc]

Forget about robots and EMP. I'm still waiting for terrorists to use EMP IEDS to level the playing field right before an ambush. It's gonna happen in the next ten years. It is not that hard to build an EMP device.

 

[Brok3n Halo]

http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/24/rfiddler-zapper-kills-rfid-tags-dead-the-hard-way/

Just needs to be more powerful.

 

[llafnwod]

Forget about robots and EMP. I'm still waiting for terrorists to use EMP IEDS to level the playing field right before an ambush. It's gonna happen in the next ten years. It is not that hard to build an EMP device.

An effective one? Yeah, it is. In any case, these groups have hardly enough people skilled enough to build regular IEDs, which are just a radio receiver hooked up to an igniter attached to a lump of explosive.

This will destroy any electronic device. Ocelot personally guarantees it!

That was beautiful.

 

[ResonanceSD]

Magnets, or a can opener.

 

[Angryman101]

Oh, hey, I had no idea people responded to this thread. I actually made this thread immediately after finishing the Fall of Hyperion novel and it got me all kinds of freaked out.

What if after your clones have helped you defeat the robots, they too decide that they no longer wish to be controlled? Build more robots? Honestly, The complexity of creating a machine capable of gaining sentience would have to have at least one do it before any mass production is put into effect. A heavily monitored one.

That's the main problem with this. As I mentioned in my original post, we can create a lethal gene sequence into the clone DNA and trigger a fatal reaction if the clones get uppity.

There's ways of protecting against mass EMPs, I believe.

You might want to go ahead and look up the definition of "inevitable".

I guess if you put "an" rather than "the" before it that would be acceptable, it suggests a hypothetical rather than the certainty that "the" offers.

Come on, I made a thread about robot wars, the title is kind of a joke, don't break my balls here over semantics.

There are over 6 billion people already on the planet even if we allow for increases in cloning technology to allow for vastly accelerated growth rates, and also develop a technology to allow for some semblance of knowledge into the clones it ignores logistics issues on a massive scale. The bigger issue for an army is not in having enough bodies but in making sure that you can equip/train/supply and control what forces you have continuously.

In other words it does you no real good to clone a billion new infantry soldiers if you do not have a billion rifles for them as well hundreds of billions of rounds for those rifle, several billion pounds of food for those soldiers each day, the transportation infrastructure to move all those supplies to your forces and can effectively retain control of a force of a billion infantry.

I thought I made it somewhat clear in my OP that at this point we're colonizing other worlds at this point, and, while Earth is still our home planet where the majority of the population resides, we have a number of colony worlds and asteroids providing raw materials and industry to supply this army of clones. I should have made that clearer, I apologize. I didn't want to make my original post too long. Still kinda new at posting.

I'm a pretty little flower. Like a prom date, maybe?
Enjoy the silence. Are you for supper?
Turtles. Now let's go dream about little breaded chicken fingers.

I've SEEN it work. I'm prepared for the cybernetic uprising.

Best post so far.
GO TEAM VENTURE

Why perfect humans? They're still useless against machines.

Whether these perfect humans can lift 150lbs or 250lbs, they can't over-power a machine that can lift up a car.

What was need is a giant EMP nuke, or to try and negociate terms. (I want my bionic body...)

Some humans can also lift up cars.
Once it comes down to it, you need physically fit, intelligent grunts on the field who are able to improvise and create strategies on the fly if it does come down to conventional warfare.

We wont need to if Kurtzwiel is right...

I don't want any part of me to be part machine :[

 

[EnzoHonda]

That guy who played Batman or the guy who played Ted in the Excellent Adventure.

 

[aruseusx]

Give every soldier on of these:

/thread

 

[aruseusx]

Pulse grenades and a pointed stick.

A POINTED STICK?!

Just remember to whack at the hinges.

Someone listens to Cheetor at last.

 

[manbearpig91]

Oh, hey, I had no idea people responded to this thread. I actually made this thread immediately after finishing the Fall of Hyperion novel and it got me all kinds of freaked out.

What if after your clones have helped you defeat the robots, they too decide that they no longer wish to be controlled? Build more robots? Honestly, The complexity of creating a machine capable of gaining sentience would have to have at least one do it before any mass production is put into effect. A heavily monitored one.

That's the main problem with this. As I mentioned in my original post, we can create a lethal gene sequence into the clone DNA and trigger a fatal reaction if the clones get uppity.

There's ways of protecting against mass EMPs, I believe.

You might want to go ahead and look up the definition of "inevitable".

I guess if you put "an" rather than "the" before it that would be acceptable, it suggests a hypothetical rather than the certainty that "the" offers.

Come on, I made a thread about robot wars, the title is kind of a joke, don't break my balls here over semantics.

There are over 6 billion people already on the planet even if we allow for increases in cloning technology to allow for vastly accelerated growth rates, and also develop a technology to allow for some semblance of knowledge into the clones it ignores logistics issues on a massive scale. The bigger issue for an army is not in having enough bodies but in making sure that you can equip/train/supply and control what forces you have continuously.

In other words it does you no real good to clone a billion new infantry soldiers if you do not have a billion rifles for them as well hundreds of billions of rounds for those rifle, several billion pounds of food for those soldiers each day, the transportation infrastructure to move all those supplies to your forces and can effectively retain control of a force of a billion infantry.

I thought I made it somewhat clear in my OP that at this point we're colonizing other worlds at this point, and, while Earth is still our home planet where the majority of the population resides, we have a number of colony worlds and asteroids providing raw materials and industry to supply this army of clones. I should have made that clearer, I apologize. I didn't want to make my original post too long. Still kinda new at posting.

I'm a pretty little flower. Like a prom date, maybe?
Enjoy the silence. Are you for supper?
Turtles. Now let's go dream about little breaded chicken fingers.

I've SEEN it work. I'm prepared for the cybernetic uprising.

Best post so far.
GO TEAM VENTURE

Why perfect humans? They're still useless against machines.

Whether these perfect humans can lift 150lbs or 250lbs, they can't over-power a machine that can lift up a car.

What was need is a giant EMP nuke, or to try and negociate terms. (I want my bionic body...)

Some humans can also lift up cars.
Once it comes down to it, you need physically fit, intelligent grunts on the field who are able to improvise and create strategies on the fly if it does come down to conventional warfare.

We wont need to if Kurtzwiel is right...

I don't want any part of me to be part machine :[

Its better than being dead right?

 

[Lonely Swordsman]

A failsafe programm. Three laws of robotics or something similar.

 

[ChromeAlchemist]

Why would sentient machines want to rise up against us?

Hell I'm still trying to figure this out myself. Always with the murder...

Anyway, EMP/microwaves. Job done.

 

[Axeli]

We are screwed.