The USA, Soccer and The World Cup

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nick n stuff

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i condone the FOOTBALL argument as you kick a BALL with your FOOT. American football should be call hand-oval by principle. however, i never thought i would see the day USA did better than England in FOOTBALL and for that i am sort of in awe.
 

Vault boy Eddie

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I'm watching the US games but that's it. I just don't see myself completely falling for a game that can regularly end in a 0-0 tie. What was the point then, to see a bunch of metrosexuals jog around for an hour and a half?
 

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The Question to all you Americans out there, has this World Cup specifically perked your interest in the possibly the greatest sport ever, or do you feel soccer is getting bigger in the USA...because you team is class, and this is coming from an English guy...

EDIT: Yes it is FOOTBALL, but we gotta start em off easy, I'd like to see what happen if the USA got into FOOTBALL they make good spectacle
First off I'd like to agree that it is stupid we still call it soccer and not football, I think we were intentionally trying to piss off the world when we made that decision.

Usually soccer isn't a big deal here outside of high school, but the media seems to be making a pretty deal about it here, and I know a lot of people who are quite excited, though I doubt its anywhere near the fervor the rest of the world has for the game.

Speaking of fervor, I just don't get it. It's not a very exciting game to watch. People aren't really allowed to hit each other, the game isn't especially tactical, there's no fucking scoring.. I don't get it. The sheer POINTLESSNESS of a 0-0 tie. Were they being paid millions of dollars to run the fuck around for a few hours?

A modest proposal: Make the nets bigger.

Or I guess make the nets smaller but no goalies. Those guys are cheaters anyway (It's football! no using hands!!)

edit: What I would absolutely love is for a huge Rugby world tournament. I'd be glued to my TV for that shit.
 

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the USA certainly played well. however as with a lot of other traditionally strong countries, England didn't do very good..
it also has to do with luck (who are you going to encounter in later rounds)

saying that... everyone is probably going to be obliterated by one of the South American countries XD
if however the USA would ever pay more attention to football and if it would become popular...then they are a force to be reckoned with (large population = larger player pool)

edit: football is incredible tactical actually and 0-0 is boring yes but there are many many existing games going on! the problem is you americans never watch those! didn't north korea lose 7-0 a few days ago?

I'm not a big fan anyway just following it :)
 

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I was born in London(though I now live in the US) and I'm kind of annoyed how stuck up they are since the Americans won group C. Especially since they had tons of goals scored against them and Teams like England and Germany have only a few goals scored against them and are going strong(England only has one goal against them btw and it was a keeper error). So I have stopped talking to any and all Americans about the world cup. Thanks for this thread so I can rant without offending anyone.
 

photog212

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First of all, this whole soccer/football/futball argument has to end. When the US wins the World Cup all nations will then have to call the sport soccer (those are the rules, read the fine print!).

Secondly, soccer is not taken seriously in the States because all the good players usually go to European or South American leagues to play and get more publicity/respect/money(?). We got a few good teams in California but that's about it. Soccer is basically a way for white suburbanites to dump off their annoying kids for awhile.

Third, Landen Donovan is the shit. Suck it rest of the world!

Fourth, the officiating has been complete crap. You would think they would have call reviews to prevent things like "The Hand of God Goal".

As far as Soccer becoming popular in the US, I think it's possible. However, we got to get better players into the MLS, and most Yanks have issues with all the diving.
 

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AMMO Kid said:
I was born in London(though I now live in the US) and I'm kind of annoyed how stuck up they are since the Americans won group C. Especially since they had tons of goals scored against them and Teams like England and Germany have only a few goals scored against them and are going strong(England only has one goal against them btw and it was a keeper error). So I have stopped talking to any and all Americans about the world cup. Thanks for this thread so I can rant without offending anyone.
I'm offended.

But in all "seriousness", that's just a US thing. We come in, do a few things well, then act like we own the joint. We beat Algeria, we're going to win the world cup. We got a dude that can swim really fast, we owned the Beijing olympics. We landed a bunch of boats in France, we won World War 2. We're very competitive and get pompous when we win (or least think we did).
 

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Snor said:
the USA certainly played well. however as with a lot of other traditionally strong countries, England didn't do very good..
it also has to do with luck (who are you going to encounter in later rounds)

saying that... everyone is probably going to be obliterated by one of the South American countries XD
if however the USA would ever pay more attention to football and if it would become popular...then they are a force to be reckoned with (large population = larger player pool)

edit: football is incredible tactical actually and 0-0 is boring yes but there are many many existing games going on! the problem is you americans never watch those! didn't north korea lose 7-0 a few days ago?

I'm not a big fan anyway just following it :)
I found that match just great. It made me a happy man to see NK get destroyed like that.

I myself like soccer a lot more than most American sports (American Football, Baseball, Nascar, I hate nascar with such an intensity it isn't even funny) but I'm not a big sports person anyway so I really only watch it every four years. Now Nuke Ball would be much more interesting. You play with a live nuclear device and the losing team has the lead players and coaches home cities nuked. That I would watch, from Antartica.
 

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Pretty much sums up how I feel about soccer.It really might just be the most boring sport on the planet I watched Japan vs. Denmark today and all I saw was a bunch of bullshit calls by refs and a bunch of players quite clearly flopping and being rewarded for it. Thats basically why I don't like soccer its a bunch of sissies faking getting pushed down and whining to the refs.
 

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Well SOCCER (for all you SA's and Euro pee-ers :p) is a sport of great integrity and America will not be away at the cup.
 

Shynobee

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I started getting into soccer around the 2006 world cup. And the fact that our team is doing pretty good this year makes it that much better. As long as we don't get thrashed by Ghana again, I'll be happy.

Also, apparently we Americans aren't the only ones who call it soccer. I was watching the Australia vs Ghana match, and the Australian team name was the "Socceroos." Is Australia an exception to the "Football" rule too?
 

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AMMO Kid said:
I was born in London(though I now live in the US) and I'm kind of annoyed how stuck up they are since the Americans won group C. Especially since they had tons of goals scored against them and Teams like England and Germany have only a few goals scored against them and are going strong(England only has one goal against them btw and it was a keeper error). So I have stopped talking to any and all Americans about the world cup. Thanks for this thread so I can rant without offending anyone.
Yeah, but the US and England Goal differential is the same. England may have only let 1 goal in, but they only scored twice. US let 3 goals in, but scored 4 times. So, it all balances out.
 

FinalHeart95

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The one thing I love about football is the lack of commercials. While american football will literally have one play between commercial breaks at times, football only has them at halftime really.

Not to mention that the games can really be thrilling. The USA/Algeria and Slovakia/Italy games come to mind there. When a football game is really good, there's nearly nothing that can beat it. Hockey is still my favorite sport (overtime in the playoffs is one of those few things that can beat a good football game), but the sport may become my second favorite. And I'm American.

P.S. Yes, I'm saying football and I'm American. I figured I'd just give in there.
 

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Sorry...
 

unoleian

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I'm calling fair-weather phenomenon, at least as far as the World Cup goes.

However, Soccer hasn't ever really been entirely unpopular around here, it's been a go-to sport for amateur entertainment and intramural sports for a couple decades, now. It's greatly over-shadowed by other professional sports, but for homebrew leagues and just plain pick-up fun, it seems very quite popular in that respect, to me.