Gamecube had the best controller ever.Daft Time said:
How many of those titles were developed by Nintendo themselves, and how many of those were part of existing franchises? Luigi's Mansion, while certainly a change for the series, wasn't a new title. There have been some cool titles on their platforms over the years - I personally liked Windwaker - and they remain the lead in portable hardware, but they only times they try to be innovative is when they feel like a hardware gimmick. That said, I'm no longer there target demographic and haven't been since, well, the Nintendo 64.theultimateend said:
While it's true that Harvest Moon games have almost always had a close tie to Nintendo consoles, there's no binding contracts saying that Harvest Moon games must be made for Nintendo consoles (at least to my knowledge). I guess the the developers just really like Nintendo consoles.Eri said:
Keyboard and Mouse are multipurpose hardware that has been adapted to be a controller. I do agree that in shooting games and RTS they are superior but there are plenty of Genres they are shit at.Daft Time said:
I love me some harvest moon. I hope they add automatic chicken and cow feeders to the next one :x.V8 Ninja said:
I guess the difference is in why we play games in the first place. I play games for their narratives, characters, world building and art style before I play them for challenge. Changing a game mechanically does not benefit me nearly so much as a new IP does. Luigi's mansion, while interesting in it's own right, is certainly not a new IP.theultimateend said:
Smash Bro's fell into the same category for me, but I played it a lot as a "party" game. It was quite a bit of fun, and you could get everyone to agree regardless of age to play it. Was pretty awesome. Rogue Squadron - though I didn't get as much time to play it as I'd like - was great as well. I never played Double Dash or Paper Mario though, as I didn't actually own the Gamecube in the house.theultimateend said:
Agreed. As far as I'm aware the Xbox is reasonably easy to develop for given it's similarities to the PC, but actually getting your games published passed all the Microsoft bureaucracy is a pain. Especially for any online component of your game.theultimateend said:
Woah there, put your dick away for a second. This was a discussion on Nintendo and the products they have released, so it's entirely relevant to discuss only the titles they had developed. It's also worth noting while we're talking about irrelevance that only a small number of the titles you've thrown out are even exclusive to the Gamecube. I had never said that the Gamecube didn't have any good games, nor did I say it was a bad console in it's own right. So calm down.Forlong said:
It's a darn shame too since the Achievement noises and design for Xbox is my favorite.Daft Time said:
I think their intention was that most of those aren't new IPs rather than "new titles". This point is extremely apt. According to Nintendo, it's a standard business model to use existing IPs for new game mechanics when possible. This is a great short term profit but eventually hurts them in the long run when the old cast starts to tire out (for example, I have personally reached my personal maximum for playing as an Italian Plumber and I've been playing Mario since the 80's). It's also important to specify which ones are exclusives. If you really go down the list and look at Nintendo's new exclusive IPs you'll find a very small handful of decent ones unless you look on their handhelds. Honestly, Nintendo puts more/better titles out for their handhelds than they do for their main consoles. As an adult, that misses my demographic for a number of reasons. But as one of the big three names, they're only putting out about what one publisher/developer would and not what a major publisher combining console giant should.Forlong said:
I think you underestimate the stigma the Wii has, alot of people got it and after the initial oo ahh shiny period it found itself sitting on a closet. The Wii U has an uphill battle in that regards, and no Mario/Zelda etc aren't system sellers to the core gamers that buy PS4/nextbox regardless of cost. The Wii U is a xbox360/PS3 with some more ram, not much of an upgrade, the other systems will beat it in every way.ThePuzzldPirate said:
If the WiiU surprises us and gives EA a legitimate target market for their games then they'll happily take peoples' money. But I don't think people recognize the dire straight they're in. I don't know if you realize it, but that marketing problem they have where people don't know it's a new console and just think it's a peripheral is one of many things truly harming sales. The price point being the same as a 360 that still has a huge backlog of games doesn't help them out any.ThePuzzldPirate said:
Ha ha ha, good call. I personally don't like the achievement pop ups in most of my games at all, but the over all sound design of the Xbox is great. It's and odd thing to succeed in, but they did.theultimateend said:
Ahh, I actually forgot about this when reading the developers comments. You're correct, though it's worth noting that being better than a console that was only about mid-range in terms of hardware when it was released in 2005 isn't really something to be proud of. Otherwise, I completely agree with your comments and you clarified my own intentions as to the nature of the titles better than I could have. Thanks. =)Lightknight said:
