The worst argument you've ever heard

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BarbaricGoose

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I don't personally enjoy "Straw man" arguments, so according to the Escapist, that is.... huh... 100% of all arguments. Okay.

But seriously, I think the "Slippery slope" argument is usually a stupid one. "If we let the gays get married, what'll stop me from marrying a chicken?! IT'S SO OBVIOUS!"
 

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Another one popped in my mind.

When you're criticizing something chances are you get the "If you don't like, why don't you make something better?" argument.

That is simply unfair BS. If we were talking about ie. a video game, why is it that I have to make one myself before I can actually criticize another? What next, we can't judge murderers because we haven't killed a human ourselves?

I am a consumer, so I should be able to explain what about the product didn't satisfy me. How else do the producers know how to make their product better?

It's just silly.
 

MeChaNiZ3D

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Sadly, this thread sort of lends itself to quotes from religious morons. But here are two of mine:

"For the universe to be exactly the way it is, there must have been a creator".

When you roll a six on a die, does that mean the die was rigged to only roll sixes?

"God is like a circle, has no beginning and has no end".

I don't even have a good argument for this beyond asking for proof that God, or indeed anything, is circular in time.
 

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Arakasi said:
Prepare yourselves, this has video.

...Yep.
I... I've no words.

Actually, I do have some. Is that the same guy that did the 180 video comparing abortion to the Holocaust? It wouldn't surprise me a bit if it is.
 

Harley Q

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I had a vegetarian say to me "If you can't see the problem, then I can't explain it to you."

I was asking for his opinion after he ranted about how animals should not be used in any lab experiments. The same guy put a picture of a dead panda saying that whenever you eat tuna, its exactly like eating a panda.

That makes me a saaaad panda...

EDIT-When someone says that you can't possibly understand something because you're too young. "you don't know pain because you haven't lived blah blah."
 

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HannesPascal said:
Hitler was a vegetarian : I don't know if this is even true
He was, but for medical reasons, rather than because he was secretly a nice guy, or because vegetarianism leads to undernourished moral fiber.

kennyloo69 said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
So according to this guy, if you are indifferent towards something or like it, and then find out something really bad about it, or something bad that can come from it, you should still be indifferent/like it.
I really have no idea how you came to interpret his comment this way. Maybe there is more context that I should know about but I don't think your friend is saying this at all.
I think the OP encountered an argument that suggested that because people didn't object before something bad happened, it was somehow invalid to try to change the law after the bad thing had happened.

Does that help?


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EDIT: Looks like a multi-post; derp.
 

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MeChaNiZ3D said:
I don't even have a good argument for this beyond asking for proof that God, or indeed anything, is circular in time.
Long answer:

Can you prove that time moves in a straight line?

Sadly, the only thing you can call the 'direction' of time is the change in entropy. Which would be fine, except that the statement "heat moves from hotter to cooler" is basically axiomatic: it could be the reverse, and you would never be able tell the difference.

"But I can remember the past, and not the future!" you cry, "and the passage of my memories show that the Second Law of Thermodynamics is valid in the manner of it's conventional interpretation!"

Well noted, but you have neglected memory skepticism: how do you know that your memories are even slightly legitimate? After all, the only 'record' you have are your memories, and if your assumptions about time were wrong, your memories of the 'future' would simply fade away on the universes march toward the Big Bang [small](Big Crunch?)[/small]

And you would be none the wiser for it, for in truth you have only a single moment in time available to you: indeed, you are not reading these words. You are simply remembering the act of reading them, and what they meant to you. For all you know, there is no progression of time at all, and all you have is this one infinitely small moment of time in which you experience your so-called 'memories' of the 'past', and start to realize that you know nothing at all for certain.
[sup]And don't even try to invoke Occam's Razor: Physics is so riddled with philosophical assumptions that you might as well invoke the Old Gods of Atlantis.[/sup]

Short Answer:

"Proof"?

Ha ha ha.
 

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Me, a Cashier: "I don't think we should keep throwing the grocery shrink out as it expires. Most of it is still good. We should send it down to the food stations downtown who will use it today, so we don't waste so much."

Random Girl Buying Stuff: "But wouldn't that mean that we starve the seagulls?"

To this day, I have no idea what she was smoking.
 

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I'm just going to simplifiy things by saying...

[HEADING=1]THE INTERNET.[/HEADING]

The internet is the worst argument I've ever seen. Even if it has its upsides, most of it is a poorly-constructed argument.
 

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lacktheknack said:
Me, a Cashier: "I don't think we should keep throwing the grocery shrink out as it expires. Most of it is still good. We should send it down to the food stations downtown who will use it today, so we don't waste so much."

Random Girl Buying Stuff: "But wouldn't that mean that we starve the seagulls?"

To this day, I have no idea what she was smoking.
Could she have been agreeing with you? in a sarcastic, facetious way?
 

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"I use logic and reason".

he never explained how his reasoning or logic was different from mine.
 

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AntiChri5 said:
lacktheknack said:
Me, a Cashier: "I don't think we should keep throwing the grocery shrink out as it expires. Most of it is still good. We should send it down to the food stations downtown who will use it today, so we don't waste so much."

Random Girl Buying Stuff: "But wouldn't that mean that we starve the seagulls?"

To this day, I have no idea what she was smoking.
Could she have been agreeing with you? in a sarcastic, facetious way?
I doubt it. She looked pretty concerned for the precious seagulls. She might be a master troll, but guess which is more likely.
 

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Harley Q said:
I had a vegetarian say to me "If you can't see the problem, then I can't explain it to you."

I was asking for his opinion after he ranted about how animals should not be used in any lab experiments. The same guy put a picture of a dead panda saying that whenever you eat tuna, its exactly like eating a panda.

That makes me a saaaad panda...

EDIT-When someone says that you can't possibly understand something because you're too young. "you don't know pain because you haven't lived blah blah."
If only eating tuna could compare...
...Panda meat is too expensive for me to have it regularly.
 

Vault101

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Mass Effect

no seriously,,bringing up all those painful memories relaly puts me in a rage state thats not good...0_0 [small/]I cant stop thinking about mass effect damit[/small]

Arakasi said:
Prepare yourselves, this has video.

...Yep.
the funny thing is he kind of proves evolution in a way..is this actulaly serious?
 

ThePS1Fan

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That no homosexual person ever contributed to society.

I swear someone said this to me with a straight face. I guess any who did don't count. And when I pointed a few, mainly the contributions of Alan Turing, he said that anything he did would have just been done by a straight person anyway.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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Grenge Di Origin said:
MASTACHIEFPWN said:
(Sorry for the political anecdote, BTW) Okay, so out of the spring of the hyper depressing conneticut shooting, and seeing a butt load of my friends posting why the 2nd amendment of the US constitution should be completely protected, I decided to talk about how I thought the second amendment is antiquated and pointless to keep. That stirred up some of my conservitive friends, and spawned some pretty bad counter-arguments, but my god, there was one so horrid- so idiotic, I just couldn't help but start to think that it was indeed the worst argument I've ever heard.

The person said this: "It's just funny how no one has any problems with firearms, or the second ammendment until something happens."

The responded to this saying "Yeah, it's funny how no one cared about food sanitation until The Jungle Was written, huh?"
So according to this guy, if you are indiffirent towards something or like it, and then find out something really bad about it, or something bad that can come from it, you should still be indiffirent/like it.
He's commenting on people's indifference to human suffering, that people tend not to care about an issue or thing until it affects them. Experience and learning are aspects of humanity, and one's opinion or view on something is always subject to change. Of course NOBODY didn't care about firearms regulations, or food regulations before occurred or The Jungle was published; you always had some people that were adamant on these issues. However, it's the popularization of such events/books that spread these perspectives, and yes, many people HAVE developed viewpoints as a result.
Yes, that was the point I was trying to convay (The Jungle section was the mass of population not knowing about their food beforehand) And that we need large events to connect things to eachother, and he was deliberately trying to make it look like a bad thing that people were devoloping viewpoints over having to face what happens in situations like this.
 

MASTACHIEFPWN

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ThePS1Fan said:
That no homosexual person ever contributed to society.

I swear someone said this to me with a straight face. I guess any who did don't count. And when I pointed a few, mainly the contributions of Alan Turing, he said that anything he did would have just been done by a straight person anyway.
Wasn't Abraham Lincoln alegedly homosexual?
I know Oscar Wilde was, and he was an amazing poet/playwrite. Completely- You are correct, that argument is utterly barbaric and idiotic.
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