The worst argument you've ever heard

[MASTACHIEFPWN]

(Sorry for the political anecdote, BTW) Okay, so out of the spring of the hyper depressing conneticut shooting, and seeing a butt load of my friends posting why the 2nd amendment of the US constitution should be completely protected, I decided to talk about how I thought the second amendment is antiquated and pointless to keep. That stirred up some of my conservitive friends, and spawned some pretty bad counter-arguments, but my god, there was one so horrid- so idiotic, I just couldn't help but start to think that it was indeed the worst argument I've ever heard.

The person said this: "It's just funny how no one has any problems with firearms, or the second ammendment until something happens."

Spoiler: My reaction

The responded to this saying "Yeah, it's funny how no one cared about food sanitation until The Jungle Was written, huh?"
So according to this guy, if you are indiffirent towards something or like it, and then find out something really bad about it, or something bad that can come from it, you should still be indiffirent/like it.

Say you were friends with someone and then they tried to murder you and your family for no good reason, it's funny how you don't want to be friends with them now, huh?

I just don't know how that can be an acceptable argument towards anything.

But, I didn't come here for political discussion- I came here to hear what the worst argument you have ever been presented with was. So, what was it?

 

[Palademon]

Sadly, this probably will descend into religious and political anecdotes which will tear this thread apart when people mistake them for hatred towards an entire group.

I'll get it started then with the first thing to come to mind. A Jehovah's Witness tried to convert me by saying "I used to be atheist like you, but then I realised God loves me".

He must've been a great sceptic.

 

[CyberAkuma]

Some idiot at a party had spent thousands of dollars on new studio equipment.
They guy claimed that the best music in the world to make was symphonic metal, because it's "the most advanced form of music". Yah, like fucking adding a bazillion instruments makes music automatically more complex and more interesting, dochebag.

 

[kennyloo69]

I really don't understand what the OP is trying to say. The statement "It's just funny how no one has any problems with firearms, or the second ammendment until something happens" makes sense. Your friend is just saying that a lot of people don't have any opinion on some subject matter until something bad happens, in which case they suddenly jump the gun and start arguing for or against something, regardless of how much information they actually have on the subject matter. I have to agree with this because there are many cases where firearms for example have been good, but nobody gets in an uproar like they do when something bad happens. People just pay much more attention to the bad stuff.

"So according to this guy, if you are indiffirent towards something or like it, and then find out something really bad about it, or something bad that can come from it, you should still be indiffirent/like it."

I really have no idea how you came to interpret his comment this way. Maybe there is more context that I should know about but I don't think your friend is saying this at all.

 

[Guffe]

"Because that's the way it is"
I can't coem up with enought situations people have said this to me and thought I'd just accept that without any backup info, whatsoever...

 

[Calibanbutcher]

"I don't like something, so it's objectively bad"
or
"I like something so it's objectively good"

Probably those two.

 

[GentleMad]

I like it when two group of fanboys argue. When I watched Bioshock infinite 'Beast of America' trailer, there was an argument in the comments which to sum up was:
'This games is going to suck, it's not COD'
'No it's not, it's Bioshock'
'Nuh uh'
'You're stupid'
'No, you're stupid'

It was like watching a fight where they took it in turn to punch each other in the face.

 

[RubyT]

Yeah, that second amendment. "Well regulated milita..." and all. Also, when it was adopted in 1791, firearms were single-shot muskets or pistols. They had bayonettes on them, because reloading sometimes took long enough for the enemy to run over and attack you. One can only imagine what Thomas Jefferson would have thought about it if he had seen assault rifles or just a standard 15+ cartridge Glock.

 

[Zhukov]

I once overheard two people arguing about vegetarianism.

One of them was trying to tell the other that fish are not animals.

Yeah.

It took a supreme act of will to restrain myself from walking over and slapping her until her brain started working. By the time the argument ended I was literally shaking with frustration.

 

[silver wolf009]

While not technically wrong, the argument that "The idea a fetus is a living human being inside the womb is a religious belief." isn't the best. Particularly when the individual proposing it was trying to use it as a counter when the other side had not brought religious belief into the discussion. A case of poor timing.

This same gentleman went on to claim that science doesn't know what a human being is, and therefore you cannot decide that a fetus is one.

Sorry friend, when asked what a human being is, the correct is not, "We don't know."

 

[dfphetteplace]

Not trying to start something, but I'm sure I will. "It is true because it is in the bible." If I don't believe in the bible, or your religion, why would you use that very same text to try to convince me it is true? That is, to me, completely insane, in the most literal sense.

 

[Moridinice]

God wrote the Bible.

if that were true in any shape or form. there would be another documentary book about the event when god came down and wrote it.

 

[AngloDoom]

Someone trying to argue that black people must be less intelligent than white people because they believed that black people were naturally better at sports.

Because that's how it works - a sliding bar with intelligence on one end and athleticism on the other.

 

[silver wolf009]

"Because that's the way it is"
I can't come up with enough situations people have said this to me and thought I'd just accept that without any backup info, whatsoever...

Well that can kinda work... Something of a "If it isn't broke, don't fix it."

Maybe not the best counter to major reforms, but I'd probably respond with this if it was proposed to change the side of the road a country drives on.

Why do that? It works fine as is, and changing it would only be ensuring a huge spike in accidents. Again, not the best for a lot of things, but certainty not the worst.

EDIT: I also love the Capthca: "The virus that causes Shingles may already be inside you."

Right next to it is, "Panic! Chaos!" Good placement guys.

 

[DioWallachia]

"There is no way to measure something as objectively bad or good. Everything is subjective"

Gee...what does this remind me off? George Orwell's 1984.

Emmanuel Goldstein, a strawman politician invented by the ruling party in order to draw out dissidents. Orwell uses Goldstein in order to set out his own views of totalitarian societies; in the book he is entirely correct, but the uthorities do not even try to suppress his message. Instead, they attempt to condition the population into being unable to comprehend an objective reality.

 

[silver wolf009]

Not trying to start something, but I'm sure I will. "It is true because it is in the bible." If I don't believe in the bible, or your religion, why would you use that very same text to try to convince me it is true? That is, to me, completely insane, in the most literal sense.

Amen brother. [footnote]Lol bad joke.[/footnote]

If within our lifetimes, memories change drastically, and within a game of Telephone, nothing is guaranteed to stay the same, why trust something from so far ago in time? I mean, as a template it'd work just fine, but when you approach it as every word meaning just what that word means, you're just silly.

 

[tippy2k2]

I could tell you but I think it'd be much more fun to show you!

*Throat clearing noise*
I believe that piracy is stealing
*Takes step back and ducks the tomato thrown

Now all I have to do is wait for someone to come in and give me the standard bullet points for why piracy is OK

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That above is a bit in jest (although I personally find it absolutely baffling why someone thinks piracy is OK but we're not here to argue that). That's the problem with these "Worst argument you've ever heard" threads...unless it's baffling stupid (I'm telling you, the sun doesn't exist!), the argument is either going to make sense or be the worst argument ever depending on which side of the aisle you're on (hell, this is post 19 and you've already got people arguing about the "worst" gun control argument and why it makes sense).

I guarantee that there is someone right now in a fit of rage yelling at me (alright, that might be a bit dramatic but I like to imagine that happening) for having the "worst" argument ever whenever I argue about why piracy is wrong.

 

[Gabanuka]

I once overheard two people arguing about vegetarianism.

One of them was trying to tell the other that fish are not animals.

Yeah.

It took a supreme act of will to restrain myself from walking over and slapping her until her brain started working. By the time the argument ended I was literally shaking with frustration.

I never understood pescetarians. If you're gonna be a vegetarian go all the way, if lambs deserve sympathy so do carps.


The only time its made sense to me is my friend who was raised vegetation, she's got no moral objections to meat it just really doesn't agree with her since its been so long, for some reason fish doesn't so she eats it.

 

[Jodan]

any ad homonem argument just makes me get up and leave. i cant be civil with some one who aregues the arguer rather than the argument.