The WoWing stigma

[meatloaf231]

It's just like Scientology. It's a punching bag.

 

[Theo Samaritan]

The reason why people discriminate against MMO players in particular is because WoW being the all-encompassing behemoth of a game that it is, has itself become the core example when people try to judge the players of MMO's.

Unfortunatly for every mature WoW player there are a thousand immature fucktards, and any WoW player I know would agree with me on that. With this in mind people generalise and as such every MMO player is either a mean ignorant prat or an immature ignorant prat, depending on the games involved.

Myself, I'm a cynical prat. And that is not because I play EVE.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

It's just like Scientology. It's a punching bag.

Scientology REALLY deserves to be a punching bag though, MMO's are mostly just an easy target.

 

[John Funk]

And in the end for me if a game doesn't have story, it better be exciting. MMO's have neither story nor excitement, they have grind.

I beg to differ.

Just because it's not presented in the usual way doesn't mean it doesn't have story.

And getting Ragnaros down to 1% with 10 seconds left before his second submerge (and an almost assured wipe) pre-BC was pretty intense

 

[meatloaf231]

It's just like Scientology. It's a punching bag.

Scientology REALLY deserves to be a punching bag though, MMO's are mostly just an easy target.

It's not necessarily about whether it deserves it or not. It just is.

But yeah, Scientology really does deserve it.

 

[ThePlasmatizer]

Blizzard are walking up to their players, grabbing them by the legs and shaking them for their lunch money. The funny thing is the players are asking them to do it.

 

[blood77]

I'd like to pose a question to the esteemed members of this forum;

Why this discrimination against the World of Warcraft (or any MMO in general) player?

I realize that there are those nuts who play World of Warcraft, or Warhammer, or Guild Wars, or whatever for 10-12 hours a day. Those folks that will camp a single enemy type for days to get a helm with an extra stamina point.

But what irritates me is this stigma, discrimination, if you will, that all players of MMOs act as such. I browse forums, and anyone who even mentions World of Warcraft is instantly bombarded with flamers, saying that they obviously have no lives, family, or significant others.

I know for a fact that this isn't the truth, as I have plenty of friends, a social life, strong family ties, and a loving girlfriend. I know many other people who play World of Warcraft that have the same situation.

Why do so many people believe that the entirety of the MMO community consists of useless drains on society, when many of them are productive members of their community?

Give me a good reason why MMO players should be judged by the few, rather than the many, and you will have amazed me.

Ok long answer:
I am sorry but are you new to the internet? A good proportion of the people that actually spend their time rummaging around here are stupid, nonsensical, morons who give themselves a hard on every time they post lol. Thus in some of their cheap attempts to make each other think that they are the funniest undiscovered comic they will attack, make fun of, or flame what ever and whom ever they feel will be funny to do it to. The WOW topic is just one of the many things that the masses have stomped upon and used for cheap laughs.

Short answer:
Leroy Jenkins

 

[LewsTherin]

Two Words.
Grind-tastic.

QFT.

It's not really all that fun unless you sign that contract....in blood.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

And in the end for me if a game doesn't have story, it better be exciting. MMO's have neither story nor excitement, they have grind.

I beg to differ.

Just because it's not presented in the usual way doesn't mean it doesn't have story.

And getting Ragnaros down to 1% with 10 seconds left before his second submerge (and an almost assured wipe) pre-BC was pretty intense

...And I can recall watching a friend of mine retry Onyxia for three hours just to try for a rare drop, the excitement inherent in that is an alien species to me. Similarly when I can't find time to enjoy the story because all my party members have already read it and need to beat this quest so they can get into a raid etc. kind of makes the plot irrelevant don't it? The game has unfortunately become anti-story. If I wanted to enjoy WoW's story right now, I couldn't, I'd never be able to stick with a party if I actually READ the dialogue, I'd be holding things up. This happened in Guild Wars to the nth degree.

 

[lumenadducere]

Theo got the gist of it - for every decent and mature WoW player there are a thousand that are rude, immature, and ignorant little buggers. Unfortunately those players are the ones that get the most visibility simply due to numbers, and therefore anyone that plays WoW is automatically going to be associated with that. It's the same with Halo.

 

[PedroSteckecilo]

And in the end for me if a game doesn't have story, it better be exciting. MMO's have neither story nor excitement, they have grind.

I beg to differ.

Just because it's not presented in the usual way doesn't mean it doesn't have story.

And getting Ragnaros down to 1% with 10 seconds left before his second submerge (and an almost assured wipe) pre-BC was pretty intense

Maaaaan, for a game that has not plot I wonder how they managed to make a wiki out of it.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Main

Seriously, saying that WoW has no story/lore is kinda...pointless...

However this is not the focus of the game itself, the focus is the level and loot grind, or at least, that's what the focus has become. Personally I quit WoW because it became impossible for me to get any further without sinking in more time than I had on any one quest.
See I did enjoy the story, but personally it felt like the game was keeping it from me, or downright resenting me for it, I've quit playing other games that would string me through 2-3 hours of grind for a small scrap of story, and WoW counts as one of these.

I guess it's the whole "Phat Lootz" mentality of MMO's that drives me mad, I hate questing for gear.

EDIT: And now that I know I can get the story without playing the game, I'll never have to again. BTW I loved Warcraft 3, I thought it was brilliant and very cinematic, unlike WoW.

 

[LewsTherin]

And in the end for me if a game doesn't have story, it better be exciting. MMO's have neither story nor excitement, they have grind.

I beg to differ.

Just because it's not presented in the usual way doesn't mean it doesn't have story.

And getting Ragnaros down to 1% with 10 seconds left before his second submerge (and an almost assured wipe) pre-BC was pretty intense

Maaaaan, for a game that has not plot I wonder how they managed to make a wiki out of it.

http://www.wowwiki.com/Portal:Main

Seriously, saying that WoW has no story/lore is kinda...pointless...

However this is not the focus of the game itself, the focus is the level and loot grind, or at least, that's what the focus has become. Personally I quit WoW because it became impossible for me to get any further without sinking in more time than I had on any one quest.
See I did enjoy the story, but personally it felt like the game was keeping it from me, or downright resenting me for it, I've quit playing other games that would string me through 2-3 hours of grind for a small scrap of story, and WoW counts as one of these.

I guess it's the whole "Phat Lootz" mentality of MMO's that drives me mad, I hate questing for gear.

EDIT: And now that I know I can get the story without playing the game, I'll never have to again. BTW I loved Warcraft 3, I thought it was brilliant and very cinematic, unlike WoW.

I feel your pain. There was so much great lore in the Warcraft Universe that blizzard only used as an idea machine for dungeons (If it is there, there will be a huge-ass raid into it at some point) and took a good portion of their well developed (for an RTS) characters and simply turned them into bosses & raid fodder (Illidan, Arthas, Kael, ETC.) . It really is saddening.

 

[CoffeeMonkey]

How about WoW being the one game that really got the media's and in extension the whole world's attention, being as vastly succesful as it is? People hear about the stories concerning these people who managed to get so hooked up on that game that they threw away they family, friends and career.
It makes for an easy target, and the common prejudices and stereotypes about gamers add to the image that WoW gamers - any and all WoW gamers - are anti-social Geeks.

And besides, even though gamers are seen as a homogenous bunch, within "our" subculture there are as many factions as there are people playing. We're not just gamers - many of us are FPS-gamers, RTS-gamers, MMO-gamers or whatever. So within the subculture there are many prejudices against the other sub-subcultures as there are prejudices against gamers from outside the subculture.

That, and it's the internet.

And hey - I played WoW for a long time and *I* joke about people playing WoW as being anti-social retards.

 

[Good morning blues]

Remember when EverQuest was the main MMORPG? Remember how everybody said the exact same things about EverQuest players?

 

[NeedAUserName]

I play WoW, and have admitted it on several occasions on this site, and I have yet to be abused...

 

[Flying-Emu]

I play WoW, and have admitted it on several occasions on this site, and I have yet to be abused...

Then you're incredibly lucky.

Remember when EverQuest was the main MMORPG? Remember how everybody said the exact same things about EverQuest players?

Sadly, no, I didn't know that. I guess it's like McDonalds; every media form hates on it, just because it has become the big face of the industry.

 

[Good morning blues]

I play WoW, and have admitted it on several occasions on this site, and I have yet to be abused...

Then you're incredibly lucky.

Remember when EverQuest was the main MMORPG? Remember how everybody said the exact same things about EverQuest players?

Sadly, no, I didn't know that. I guess it's like McDonalds; every media form hates on it, just because it has become the big face of the industry.

There are a hell of a lot of reasons to hate McDonalds and very few of them have anything to do with them being the fast food industry juggernaut.