The X1 has lost Microsoft 400 million
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Ubisoft? who has the seccond biggest cashcow of all? why are thease games so expensive and where is the money going?Ultratwinkie said:
while I'm all in favor of substance over style...it does make me wonder if it will affect the single player game...
"...The good experiences I enjoyed with my 360", heh, good joke.
Honestly I'm not surprised, they've changed their focus and statements on their consoles like I change my underwear, re-focusing the Xbone as a "gaming console" (!) might be the right first step, but I'd sure as hell wouldn't trust them anymore if they decide to turn things as much once more.
But in all fairness, the Xbone's generation has just begun, I wouldn't judge a console's success in less than a year of it's performance.
Honestly I'm not surprised, they've changed their focus and statements on their consoles like I change my underwear, re-focusing the Xbone as a "gaming console" (!) might be the right first step, but I'd sure as hell wouldn't trust them anymore if they decide to turn things as much once more.
But in all fairness, the Xbone's generation has just begun, I wouldn't judge a console's success in less than a year of it's performance.
I supose we'll see....as I said I wouldn't be surprised to see more F2P and Tianfall in the future...Ultratwinkie said:
....anyway I may not know anything about game development but I don't see why you can't get a decent game without having to spend that much
not blockbuster per se but not artsy pixel graphics eather
Well, there was the Mass Effect series (although that did eventually come out on PS3), Fable, Kingdoms of Amulahblahblah, and...Vault101 said:
Um, and...
State of Decay?
Huh.
Okay, granted, it's hardly the most impressive list.
Regardless, my point was that Sony and Nintendo tend to hang on a bit tighter to their exclusives than Microsoft does, so turning the console market into a two horse race between Sony and Nintendo might result in fewer cross-platform releases making it to PC.
Like I said though, it's just speculation on my part, and fairly ignorant speculation at that.
Consoles are closed propriatary systems that all must be identical.Zachary Amaranth said:
Pcs can differ vastly from build to build and is more of what the user wants/are willing to buy rather than dictated by manufacturer.
No ponies involved.
Perhaps my initial post wasn't clear, it was badly worded. The department is making sales, and so that loss really isn't a problem.[/quote]Verlander said:
I can see your point now, but i didnt get that angle from your initial post. Yes, microsoft always made its profit by holding free services hostage (like multiplayer) and making profit to cover the losses elsewhere. however the profit needs to be high enough to cover said losses, and history of Xbox platform so far shows that it has not been so. The initial investment hasnt been paid since the beginning of the Xbox. And its worth noting that there is no way Xbox Done is going to sell as well as 360. 360 sold well because it had no competition - Wii was full of shovelware and "Did its own thing", PS3 launched a year later and its launch was a disaster, so for a long time 360 was the only game in town for these consolites. When PS3 actually started competing we saw it catch up in sale numbers and even beat it at the end.
This time both PS4 and WiiU are much stronger competitors to One.
If i remmeber correctly the lab that deisgned kinect sensors and makes them is located in Israel.kilenem said:
It is in fact everyone that loves games interest that bad companies fair and good companies replace them. and since, as you say, it is the largest industry out there, it sure as hell going to fill the power vacuum and quick. Also funny how you imply Candy Crush being the only alternative to Microsoft.BaronVH said:
Its GOOD that music industry suffers. it is run by horrible people that does not deserve to make the millions they do. It needs a hard reset. Just look at all the content ID claims of police sirens being "a copyrighted song" and basically stealing ad revenue. Not that gaming is any better - Nintendo did the same.
Mobile GPUs, such as Tegra K1 outperform console GPUs. this is a fact that is not offset by control schemes. Control schemes has NOTHING to do with GPU power.fix-the-spade said:
As far as controls go, you can plug your controller or keyboard and mouse into a tablet. you can connect it to a large TV, and you can plug it into the wall. it would then act like normal console, except you can punplug it and take it with you and still use it unlike console.
Games supporting controllers without needing to remap things manually is another thing, but thats the fault of games.
I dont know what kind of tablet you use, but it must be horrible to run out of battery in half an hour. This is not normal.
Consoles didnt kill PCs because they were never more functional than PCs. meanwhile if tablets outperform consoles, they can act both as a console and a tablet, thus are more functional than a console.
historical discrepancies aside (not going to bother proving that cube was less pwoerful than PS2), hardware sells on more than price. right now prices are the same, so people chose better hardware. in this case its PS4. However the largest seller is console loyalty. If price was the only factor - everyone would game on PC - PC gaming is much cheaper.
Its true that holding games ransom does affect sales. I know somone who bought PS3 for Dust 514. does not make it a good thing. Microsoft will not make money on it as much as you think though. with smaller install base exclusives become less useful.
This was true before 2006. When last gen lauched consoles also run robust OS.The_Kodu said:
I dont see many consoles providing PS2 level game quality regulary, whats your point?
except that looking at hardware in current consoles, microsoft and sony should be making profit from hardware sales as is and that they dont only shows they have large overhead expenses.The_Kodu said:
because this is the first generation where console tech is so weak it should be making profit at that price.Vykrel said:
When you buy a table at IKEA, you get a bunch of parts, screws and instruction to construct it yourself. 99% of buyers can do this easily and build their own table. Building a PC is simpler than building that table. Thus, building it yourself can easily become the mainstream way to buy PCs, just like it became for furniture.Rozalia1 said:
I wont defend record companies but the music industry is in a bit of severe pickle....in that they just can't get people to pay for their shit, its no longer piracy but streaming...Stuff like Spotify aparently can't make up for itStrazdas said:
noone wants to pay for 20th century market practices? tough shit. Can you tell me a single website that has a decent collection of music that i could legally buy and download? Oh and Itunes wont work because:Vault101 said:
1. Itunes DRM
2. Terrible quality
Of course people wont buy for outdated sales, and since no legal modern exists, people will pirate. its a service problem. Also multiple artists have stated that they would much rather release music for free and earn money from tours because piracy vastly increased their audience at tours - where they get most of the money anyway.
I'm not talking about $20 a CD, I'm talking about any money at allStrazdas said:
[quote/]Can you tell me a single website that has a decent collection of music that i could legally buy and download? Oh and Itunes wont work because:
1. Itunes DRM
2. Terrible quality[/quote]
I'm not sure to the extent of the DRM on songs, if streaming isn't an issue there is spotify which is built like itunes where you can find practically anything and its free (the only thing is you have to listen to an add every now and again if your not subscribed)
[quote/]Of course people wont buy for outdated sales, and since no legal modern exists, people will pirate. its a service problem.[/quote]
I'm not talking about piracey, I'm talking about the perfectly legit method of streaming, aparently they just can't make up the difference
[quote/]Also multiple artists have stated that they would much rather release music for free and earn money from tours because piracy vastly increased their audience at tours - where they get most of the money anyway.[/quote]
thats all good and well but thats not the case for every artist...and quite frankly people (non musicians) tend to parrot the same things
yes record companies were terrible, yes the serivces are the important factor....but lets not gloss over the fact that technology has really blured the lines on how to actually make money from their efforts, people generally don't want to pay for things
heh....Ultratwinkie said:
it wasn't some random person but a professional seller...they had a bunch of "pre-mades" (that were more or less "just ok") but the real thing was you selected the upgrades/parts
I quardruple checked (and checked and checked and checked) and vaugly knew how much each part was ment to cost and its been going fine for almost 2 years now
the funny thing is though after an issue with Paypal/ebay....several dozen freaked out phone calls, a trek carrying a really heavy box while looking like I'm about to have a heart attatck and drop dead (at least 4 people aksed if I needed help) and then another freak out and angry email when it turns out it wont recognise the hardrive....followed by angels decending from the heavans and singing halleujeah when I open up the box...pop it back in and everything is fine (I think it was more likley a transit issue)
it would have been easyer to build one mabye XD
One recent observation: I was at Gamestop. At their doorway was a stack of used consoles for sale (but not a very big price drop for a freakin used console!) It was a stack of PS3s and... Xbox Ones ($450 rather than $500, big whoop!) Not Wii U nor PS4.
This is the current sales chart:
5 Million is not that bad (not that good) for a system that has not been out a year yet. But of that 5 million, how many disproportionately so, have been taken right back to the store?
At this time, I'd like to play Forza 5. That's about it from that system.
This is the current sales chart:
5 Million is not that bad (not that good) for a system that has not been out a year yet. But of that 5 million, how many disproportionately so, have been taken right back to the store?
At this time, I'd like to play Forza 5. That's about it from that system.
