Especially in this context, where he thought the best part of the movie was blacks being killed.Lazier Than Thou said:
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"There is nothing wrong being racist"
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He sounds pretty lol. I say disregard 99% of everyone on the internet and keep him around as long as he's an okay guy to be around and doesn't interfere with shit.
The problem with being racist is part of the wider problem of being a complete fucking moron. If there was some kind of sensible logic to hating someone due to the colour of their skin then maybe, maybe I might be able to see a tiny grain of sense in racism.
My stepbrother is... it's really freaking sad. Granted, he does seem to have become a little more tolerant of other people, but that may just be to avoid looking like a douche.SquallTheBlade said:
I've just kinda stopped arguing with him about it because at this point, he's made it quite clear that he's unwilling to listen to reason.
Come to think of it, I've just kinda stopped arguing with him in general. He's usually a pleasant person to be around, but he's the type of person who's opinions are set in stone and encased with diamond. In other words, arguing with him will always end with him either pissed off at you, or it won't end at all. If you're obviously winning the argument, he'll just abruptly proclaim that he's right and say that he doesn't want to talk about it anymore.
I still love him, he's family, but it's usually our families who bug us the most.
But yeah, there's no reasoning with someone who's willing to hate somebody before meeting them simply because they have a different skin color. That's the kind of thing that only they can sort out.
My advice would be to just not talk with your friend about it, and if it really damages your view of him as a person, you might just be better off not talking to him at all.
There's a weird trend. People seem to think that free speech not only gives you the right to be an asshole, but excuses it. It doesn't. In fact, free speech lets intelligent people call racists idiots. Its just my opinion is meaningless. Ill defend anyones right to speak, but that doesn't mean your saying something worth saying.
Maybe he is right, and you cant change his mmind. In that case, let him be a Moron. Alone.
Maybe he is right, and you cant change his mmind. In that case, let him be a Moron. Alone.
I agree with pretty much everything you said. The fact of the matter is we cannot make everyone not racist so dwelling on the few people who are, but at the same time do not wrong the people they are prejudice against is a waste of time.Capt. Crankypants said:
I think your friend is kinda right. Kinda. Now before you all skewer me, hear me out. Racism, in it's most basic form is simply to dislike someone purely on the grounds of race or nationality. And as ignorant as that is, I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with it. Don't get me wrong, what he said is despicable but without the context of that vile rhetoric, the core idea is fairly benign. I mean, people hate and fear eachother for a myriad of equally arbitrary reasons. Think about it; we've all gotten a weird vibe from someone now and again, or maybe crossed the street to avoid a shady character. In hindsight, those moments certainly seem silly, but wrong? Evil? Not so much. What really matters is how that paranoid instance of dislike is handled. Most people get over it and go about their day as usual because the person in question is out of sight and out of mind fairly quickly. Therein lies the problem of racism. Race is a constant. It doesn't just pass out of sight. I...honestly don't know where I'm going with this so i'm just gonna stop here before I say something stupid. Bottom line is, be racist if you want. Just don't be a dick about it.
Well, first you need to define "wrong". Morality tends to be relative at the best of times, and this isn't a legal issue. The word "wrong" is therefore amorphous. We can argue in circles all day long about what's wrong, and what's right, and everyone will be completely convinced of their own argument, because the definitions we're employing are all highly subjective and personal.
You can say, with 100% accuracy, that expressing views like those of your friend is IGNORANT. You can say that it's PREJUDICIAL. You could probably argue that it's potentially HARMFUL, both to himself and to others, as it's INFLAMMATORY. But is it WRONG? I guess it depends on who you ask.
You can say, with 100% accuracy, that expressing views like those of your friend is IGNORANT. You can say that it's PREJUDICIAL. You could probably argue that it's potentially HARMFUL, both to himself and to others, as it's INFLAMMATORY. But is it WRONG? I guess it depends on who you ask.
I actually have to make sure not to pick Louis in L4D anymore. Last few times I was playing it and downed by enemies, the jagoff teammates refused to assist me because "we don't help colored folk". In a goddamn video game.
The important issue to bear in mind is the difference between prejudice and discrimination. Prejudice, for the most part, can't be helped or really punished, and is harmless as long as it doesn't lead to discrimination, which IS harmful and should be discouraged at every possible opportunity.
OT: I've never really had any racist friends. Occasionally we'd make a joke that could be considered offensive, I suppose, but we all felt instinctively that genuinely hating or disliking somebody because of their skin colour was just wrong. When I moved to Canada, however, I met a few guys who were really racist (as well as a few anti-semetic guys to go along with them), and it was almost like a slap in the face to me, because I'd never encountered that kind of thing up until then. I didn't call them out on it, but I made a point not to speak with them any more than was completely necessary. Also, somewhat intriguingly, I've found that my internal stereotype of 'the white people are the racist ones' to have been challenged when I started realizing that pretty much all of the racism I'd seen had come from minority groups.
OT: I've never really had any racist friends. Occasionally we'd make a joke that could be considered offensive, I suppose, but we all felt instinctively that genuinely hating or disliking somebody because of their skin colour was just wrong. When I moved to Canada, however, I met a few guys who were really racist (as well as a few anti-semetic guys to go along with them), and it was almost like a slap in the face to me, because I'd never encountered that kind of thing up until then. I didn't call them out on it, but I made a point not to speak with them any more than was completely necessary. Also, somewhat intriguingly, I've found that my internal stereotype of 'the white people are the racist ones' to have been challenged when I started realizing that pretty much all of the racism I'd seen had come from minority groups.
Well maybe you might trade him in for someone with a darker skin-tone, OP then you know for sure that the next can't be a racist! (thinking and acting like that would make you a real practicing racist 
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I don't like people that try to spot racism everywhere, they are among the biggest racists themselves because they only see black and white in the world.
OP, a bro is a bro, if you like hanging out with him, hang out with him.
He knows about your opposing view and still hangs out with you right?
)I don't like people that try to spot racism everywhere, they are among the biggest racists themselves because they only see black and white in the world.
OP, a bro is a bro, if you like hanging out with him, hang out with him.
He knows about your opposing view and still hangs out with you right?
Your friend is a bigot. He will lose you good friends. Get rid of him.
If he dislikes black people, fine. If he believes that all black people are the same, fine.
If he admits it openly, he's an asshole - because that's simply being anti-social.
What happens if, god forbid, you find yourself an African girlfriend?
If he dislikes black people, fine. If he believes that all black people are the same, fine.
If he admits it openly, he's an asshole - because that's simply being anti-social.
What happens if, god forbid, you find yourself an African girlfriend?
You should drop that scum-bucket before he does something else completely dumb. The problem with being a racist is that, depending on where you live, everyone around you hates racists. Being one is going to ruin the guy's life in a world that is increasingly about acceptance and equality.
Nothing wrong with being racist, everybody is racist... but you're friend, he is wrong.
The term racist doesn't necessarily denote negativity. It can be simply a matter of associating traits with a certain race and placing people in certain categories. Race is so engraved in every society that nobody can escape associating people with a race. Not that that's inherently bad, but when taken to extremes as a form of hate then its bad, as you're friend did.
When people hear 'race' they automatically assume something negative, yet it means the same as the less controversial term 'ethnicity'.
The term racist doesn't necessarily denote negativity. It can be simply a matter of associating traits with a certain race and placing people in certain categories. Race is so engraved in every society that nobody can escape associating people with a race. Not that that's inherently bad, but when taken to extremes as a form of hate then its bad, as you're friend did.
When people hear 'race' they automatically assume something negative, yet it means the same as the less controversial term 'ethnicity'.