There's a girl... that old chestnut

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artanis_neravar said:
thelonewolf266 said:
Ask her out soon the friend zone is real and it sucks.
That's all I've got sorry.
Also this should probably be in the advice section.
The friend zone is just something made up by guys when a girl they have liked for a while rejects them, they just don't want to accept that she doesn't like him that way. If a girl sees you as a potential partner then that isn't going to change just because you are friends with her, yes she may focus her attention elsewhere or give up hope but those things that drew her attention to you in the first place will always be there. So that "I don't want to ruin our friendship" line stems from one of several possibilities, either she doesn't have any attraction to you and never has, she is scared that a relationship with you won't last, she is more attracted to someone else or she is legitimately worried that a relationship would change everything between you.
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
 

theklng

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Gxas said:
Well... Actually... She could murder your whole family because of that innocent little question.

But we'll stick with realistic scenarios!!! Yeah, the worst she could do is say no. Just do it. PM me results. I like hearing about the romantic triumphs of others. I live vicariously through you!
you think thats the worst that could happen? the whole universe could merge into a singularity if he asks, and that's hardly the worst that could happen.
 

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sparten042 said:
one other thing should i tell her i've liked her for as long as i have or shall i just midfy it a little bit ?
No you should not, you can tell her once you are together for a while but spilling your beans how you "love her", "means the world to you",... while she hasn't done anything to earn this makes you look really desperate, desperation is not attractive (been there, done that, goes horribly wrong).

Remember you are trying to attract her, show her something that will make her want to be with you.
Minor example, as you ask her out find something she likes but don't go: "I got these tickets just for you"(that is desperation), say: "I'm going to this thing, would you like to come along", and when she asks if it's a date the answer is Yes, don't be vague about your desire that is how you end up being friends only.
 

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Gxas said:
Well... Actually... She could murder your whole family because of that innocent little question.

But we'll stick with realistic scenarios!!! Yeah, the worst she could do is say no. Just do it. PM me results. I like hearing about the romantic triumphs of others. I live vicariously through you!
you think thats the worst that could happen? the whole universe could merge into a singularity if he asks, and that's hardly the worst that could happen.
 

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XHolySmokesX said:
sparten042 said:
thanks for the help, im set on doing it tomorrow, and im going for it, but do you think striding up to her in the middle of school sling er dwn on my arm salsa style and asking her on a date is a bit too much? :L lol
to be honest with you... yes, probably very well.

it's normally the over the top stuff that you need balls of steel to do that get the girl, especially so if you do it in a way that tells her you know what your doing and it doesn't bother you what others might think, because your in control of yourself.

so as much as you might not have expected me to say this, and i will say it again; Yes, that probably will work very well.
i was only being sarcastic but i dont know now i guess i'll think about, anyway thanks everyone for the advice im gonna hit the hay now and get up early tomorrow, probably walk to college with her, but you'll have the results tomorrow, thanks again everyone !
 

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I think you should just get bring up the courage to ask her. good luck is all i can really say...
 

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artanis_neravar said:
thelonewolf266 said:
Ask her out soon the friend zone is real and it sucks.
That's all I've got sorry.
Also this should probably be in the advice section.
The friend zone is just something made up by guys when a girl they have liked for a while rejects them, they just don't want to accept that she doesn't like him that way. If a girl sees you as a potential partner then that isn't going to change just because you are friends with her, yes she may focus her attention elsewhere or give up hope but those things that drew her attention to you in the first place will always be there. So that "I don't want to ruin our friendship" line stems from one of several possibilities, either she doesn't have any attraction to you and never has, she is scared that a relationship with you won't last, she is more attracted to someone else or she is legitimately worried that a relationship would change everything between you.
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
 

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Don't be creepy. Your post comes off as creepy. Don't do that. Guessing this is a young thing, so avoid the whole Twilight True love! proclamations. Actually avoid those at any age. Shit be creepy.

Anyway, it should be about showing her a good, fun time. Show, don't tell. Etc. And if she says no (Any grown woman likely should if she just got dumped) don't go emo or threaten to blow up your school over it. Again, creepy.
 

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Hobo Steve said:
Man up, stop pissing around and just go ask her.
Its not that difficult folks, and trust me, planning some big weird romantic fantasy of how to ask a girl out is just plain ol creepy.

Edit: When it comes to "romance" remember these words.

He who hesitates, masturbates.
LOL

OT: You might as well just ask her. Also, shouldn't this go in the advice forum?
 

artanis_neravar

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Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
 

Ushiromiya Battler

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artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
 

artanis_neravar

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Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
When guys complain about being put in the friend zone it is usually accompanied by them claiming that they waited to long, I have never heard a guy complain about the friend zone when they are just a friend or asked a girl out then became a friend after the fact.
 

Ushiromiya Battler

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artanis_neravar said:
Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
When guys complain about being put in the friend zone it is usually accompanied by them claiming that they waited to long, I have never heard a guy complain about the friend zone when they are just a friend or asked a girl out then became a friend after the fact.
Oh, alright then.
I guess I was a bit fast on the disagreeing.
We just have different interpretations of the friend zone. Can we agree to disagree?
 

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To those saying you have nothing to lose: Wrong. Many people lose a lot of self-esteem from rejection, and often lose the chances of having a normal conversation with her. It's not exactly close physical contact or anything, but given the choice between periodic normal conversations and a very low chance of contact, it may be a tough decision.
 

artanis_neravar

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Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Magefeanor said:
artanis_neravar said:
Tdc2182 said:
I don't think anybody ever denied that was what a friend zone was.
FirstToStrike said:
[HEADING=1]WALL BANGER![/HEADING]

Seriously, you just denied that the friend zone existed, and then you bring it right back into existence.
The friend zone is different from just being a friend, the friend zone is when a guy believes that he waiting to long and because of the wait the girl is no longer interested, and that does not exist
If that is what you think, alright, everyone is allowed to have an opinion, but that's so horribly wrong it hurts.

OT: It's good that you decided to go for it!

Oh, the friend zone exists on both side, though it seem the ladies call it something else.
When guys complain about being put in the friend zone it is usually accompanied by them claiming that they waited to long, I have never heard a guy complain about the friend zone when they are just a friend or asked a girl out then became a friend after the fact.
Oh, alright then.
I guess I was a bit fast on the disagreeing.
We just have different interpretations of the friend zone. Can we agree to disagree?
Of course, I have no problem with that
 

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Gxas said:
thelonewolf266 said:
Ask her out soon the friend zone is real and it sucks.
Honestly, having been friend-zoned by... what is it now... Four girls of five that I've ever been romantically involved with, I can say that it initially sucks. But after a while, and if they really meant that much to you, having them not there is so much worse than having them there, even just as a friend.
True story... God damn it does not having someone who means a lot to you in your life at all suck...
 

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Ask her out, like now, as in, if you are reading this and you haven't go call her and ask if she wants to go to the movies (some other date idea), if she is that important to you go for it.
 

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Good Luck! One way or another it will work itself out. If she isn't into it right now don't run away. My husband tried to friend zone me in high school, the dweeb. I'm just saying if the juice is worth the squeeze, stick around. It seems like she is already a good friend so try not to get down. All of this is based around a negative response of course, but hopefully all will be well.
 

Gxas

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Katana314 said:
To those saying you have nothing to lose: Wrong. Many people lose a lot of self-esteem from rejection, and often lose the chances of having a normal conversation with her. It's not exactly close physical contact or anything, but given the choice between periodic normal conversations and a very low chance of contact, it may be a tough decision.
See, thats the problem. People let the rejection bring them down. If you do that, of course it will be worse. But, seriously, the worst thing that could happen is that she says, "No." What you do afterward with that answer is on you. If you let it bring you down, then you're doing that to yourself.

This is coming from someone who's self esteem hit an all-time-low over the course of the last five years and is just now starting to come back now that I've begun living my life this way.