These ads are making me want to escape from this website.

[DoPo]

NeoGaf has 2 banner ads, one at the top and one at the bottom. Wonder how they keep the forums up!

My point is, THIS is overkill and I don't believe that "they need to make money" is an excuse for an "anything goes" type of approach.

Dunno about NeoGaf. Do they host multiple shows on there? What are their expenses? Do they have an expo lined up for this year? Google only led me to some forum, I'm not sure if that's what you're referring to. Because the Escapist is more than a forum. There are several guys who work for this website.

 

[Innegativeion]

The site's gotta make money so either put up with the ads or get Pub Club

But a GOOD company doesn't care about the money. I don't mind maybe a few banner ads. After all, without banner ads, I would have never discovered Rifftrax, but there is such a thing as going too far.

Reading your posts it seems you live in some kind of fantasy world where money is not the driving force behind basic societal structure.

It's not the difference between making money and making a lot of money. It's the difference between making money at ALL, and literally having to shut things down.

Nintendo is a prime example, as they seem to be admired quite a bit by you, as despite their efforts still suffered a multi million dollar loss last year, as the front page story shows. What Nintendo and the escapist have in common is that, as companies, they NEED to care about money to continue to exist. Sure, people should work for the love of the job, and sure, poor business practice should be scrutinized, but you must understand that advertising is a necessary evil of any capitalist society.

So yeah. The escapist, being much much smaller than Nintendo, needs you to look at their ads or send them pub club money. Personally I just sent them the cash. I like the club benefits and feel the site deserves it. It is one of my favorite places on the web.

 

[Epona]

NeoGaf has 2 banner ads, one at the top and one at the bottom. Wonder how they keep the forums up!

My point is, THIS is overkill and I don't believe that "they need to make money" is an excuse for an "anything goes" type of approach.

Dunno about NeoGaf. Do they host multiple shows on there? What are their expenses? Do they have an expo lined up for this year? Google only led me to some forum, I'm not sure if that's what you're referring to. Because the Escapist is more than a forum. There are several guys who work for this website.

All that extra stuff is no doubt expensive, but I don't watch the videos much, live nowhere near North Carolina so don't know if I want to type ad slogans to get them the money for that stuff. I only watch Jimquisition these days and not even every week.

 

[Syzygy23]

Get Adblock! I joke, I joke! I kid, I kid!

The site's gotta make money so either put up with the ads or get Pub Club

But a GOOD company doesn't care about the money. I don't mind maybe a few banner ads. After all, without banner ads, I would have never discovered Rifftrax, but there is such a thing as going too far.

Just out of curiosity, have you moved out of your parents/legal guardians home yet?

 

[Iron Criterion]

Get Adblock! I joke, I joke! I kid, I kid!

The site's gotta make money so either put up with the ads or get Pub Club

But a GOOD company doesn't care about the money. I don't mind maybe a few banner ads. After all, without banner ads, I would have never discovered Rifftrax, but there is such a thing as going too far.

Huh? Do you expect this site to be run by good will alone?

Running The Escapist costs far more than you think. Less ads means no Yahtzee or Movie Bob.

 

[Epona]

It's not the difference between making money and making a lot of money. It's the difference between making money at ALL, and literally having to shut things down.

No, actually it is the difference between making money and making lots of money. Banner ads is money but banner ads, video ads, captcha ads, etc... is making lots of money.

Whatever, you guys defend it all you want. It's overkill and has no doubt made a few people "escape".

 

[Innegativeion]

Get Adblock! I joke, I joke! I kid, I kid!

The site's gotta make money so either put up with the ads or get Pub Club

But a GOOD company doesn't care about the money. I don't mind maybe a few banner ads. After all, without banner ads, I would have never discovered Rifftrax, but there is such a thing as going too far.

Huh? Do you expect this site to be run by good will alone?

Running The Escapist costs far more than you think. Less ads means no Yahtzee or Movie Bob.

Very true. In fact, didn't we just recently have a bit of a debacle over escapist contributors almost not getting paid?

It's not the difference between making money and making a lot of money. It's the difference between making money at ALL, and literally having to shut things down.

No, actually it is the difference between making money and making lots of money. Banner ads is money but banner ads, video ads, captcha ads, etc... is making lots of money.

Whatever, you guys defend it all you want. It's overkill and has no doubt made a few people "escape".

If I recall, the escapist was just recently having trouble paying some of its contributors for agreed upon contracts. This is not reflective of "a lot" of money.

I may not have any statistics or figures, but that's some concrete evidence you can look up in the forum archives yourself.

 

[Rednog]

I don't mind the capatcha ads, but I loathe the side ads and the bottom bar combo. It's like oh look the bottom bar popped up with an ad that covers half of my bottom screen and I have the flanking side ads, I can't click on half my screen lest I should be redirected to an ad site.

 

[TurtleCannon]

The adds aren't really that bad. Not on a real computer anyway. For the moment I'm stuck with using my EVO 3D for all things internet, so its gonna suck no matter what. The adds aren't near as bad as some other sites.

 

[Epona]

Get Adblock! I joke, I joke! I kid, I kid!

The site's gotta make money so either put up with the ads or get Pub Club

But a GOOD company doesn't care about the money. I don't mind maybe a few banner ads. After all, without banner ads, I would have never discovered Rifftrax, but there is such a thing as going too far.

Huh? Do you expect this site to be run by good will alone?

Running The Escapist costs far more than you think. Less ads means no Yahtzee or Movie Bob.

Very true. In fact, didn't we just recently have a bit of a debacle over escapist contributors almost not getting paid?

It's not the difference between making money and making a lot of money. It's the difference between making money at ALL, and literally having to shut things down.

No, actually it is the difference between making money and making lots of money. Banner ads is money but banner ads, video ads, captcha ads, etc... is making lots of money.

Whatever, you guys defend it all you want. It's overkill and has no doubt made a few people "escape".

If I recall, the escapist was just recently having trouble paying some of its contributors for agreed upon contracts. This is not reflective of "a lot" of money.

I may not have any statistics or figures, but that's some concrete evidence you can look up in the forum archives yourself.

Hmm...let's see here. If I say I can't pay my mortgage this month, will you give me some money? Just come to my site and click on banner ads for an hour. Thanks.

 

[minarri]

Ads are fine, but when i'm watching a string of vids in a row, i'd like to not have to find another way to preoccupy my time for thirty seconds in between each one.

1. Open several tabs with videos.
2. Mute the sound. Or take off your headphones if you have them (that's what I do).
3. Play all the videos. Protip - Ctrl+Tab cycles through the tabs, so you can just press that and keep your mouse over the play button. Ctrl+Shift+Tab cycles backwards, if you need that.
4. Go do something for a couple of minutes. I check the forums, or catch up on some news or go make myself a sandwich/food/cup of tea/cup of coffee. You can check your Facebook/Twitter/MySpace/Google+ if you have one and you care - I don't care for mine, otherwise I would have done it.
5. Come back and pause the videos that are running, if any. Usually whatever I do takes five minutes or more, anyway, so when I come back to the videos they've all finished playing.
6. Play the videos now.

Pretty much this. All the video streaming sites are forcing ads to play in their entirety or make the user fill out a video captcha now, but that doesn't mean you have to watch the ads.

 

[Innegativeion]

Hmm...let's see here. If I say I can't pay my mortgage this month, will you give me some money? Just come to my site and click on banner ads for an hour. Thanks.

What on earth are you talking about?

A website is a business resource, not a personal mortgage. This comparison has made me desire the blood of the innocent.

 

[Epona]

Hmm...let's see here. If I say I can't pay my mortgage this month, will you give me some money? Just come to my site and click on banner ads for an hour. Thanks.

What on earth are you talking about?

A website is a business resource, not a personal mortgage.

Look up because it obviously went over you head.

Anyway, I need to be done here. Talking about too many ads on the escapist is dnagerous territory and if I "escape", I would rather do it on my terms instead of being banned for talking about too many damn ads.

 

[TheVioletBandit]

I understand they need money and I'm fine with ads in general but the typing in of marketing phrases is just too far. Zero punctuation isn't that good...

I agree with this. Every time I have to type in one of those fucking marketing phrases I feel like I am selling a part of my soul.

 

[Innegativeion]

Look up because it obviously went over you head.

Right you are.

You quoted about 13 lines of text talking about how the escapist DOES in fact need the money, as evidenced by recent events, then you...

started talking about your mortgage payments. So yeah, right on the money, I had and continue to have no idea what you were trying to say.

edit: Putting the word escape in quotes and using it in place of every other synonym for the word quit/leave is not THAT clever.

 

[Xangba]

But a GOOD company doesn't care about the money. I don't mind maybe a few banner ads. After all, without banner ads, I would have never discovered Rifftrax, but there is such a thing as going too far.

Bullshit. No company doesn't care about the money. That's why it's a company, to make money.

OT: Something in your peripheral really bothers you that much? Seriously? And I prefer typing in product names far more to hurting my eyes trying to figure what the hell it wants me to type.

 

[TheVioletBandit]

Get Adblock! I joke, I joke! I kid, I kid!

The site's gotta make money so either put up with the ads or get Pub Club

But a GOOD company doesn't care about the money. I don't mind maybe a few banner ads. After all, without banner ads, I would have never discovered Rifftrax, but there is such a thing as going too far.

Oh this nonsense again? A company's sole purpose is to make money so if they don't care about that then they're a shitty company. This has been explained to you ad nauseum and you're still not getting it. And why should the site be run for you for free? They're not a charity.

Your right that a companies sole purpose is to make money, but getting to greedy and bombarding your customers with ads and such to the point that they stop using/buying your product is just bad business(you can't make money without customers).

 

[Epona]

I get why they're doing it, but yeah.

I'm getting sick of seeing damn Marine commercials and the totting propaganda about them being humanitarian force, or how fucking Kratos was a man before he was a god... no shit. Or how being in the air force or navy is like living in the future with super high tech gizmos and crap.

Ok, let me clarify. Needing money doesn't justify ad overkill.