"Thin Tail" Call of Duty Drags Down Sales

[JoesshittyOs]

"Don't you realize I'm ignoring you?"

Honestly, how hard is it to hit copy and paste? At least use my own words if you're going to try and use my quotes against me. I was ignoring you because I was already being quoted by five other idiots telling me the exact same backwards ass logic that you were trying to throw down. You continued to for some reason to keep following the conversation that I wasn't having with you, and therefore you got a response.

"I'd come up with a coherent argument to prove you wrong but it's a waste of my time."

Nope. What I actually said was; "I'd put up a long post about how that makes no sense, but quite frankly, I'm not really feeling going into an in depth explanation about how Call of Duty is so drastically different from Twilight."

Why did I say that before? Was I dodging you? Yes, in a matter of speaking. I was trying to dodge the inevitable stupid fucking flame war that you're trying to pull me into.

I do not want to get into a CoD vs. Twilight argument. It's a gigantic waste of time. It simply doesn't make any sense, and is unfair for me to try to dive into. The comparison is dumb. Not dumb as in I'm trying to avoid you dumb. Dumb as in it's illogical, broad, and a lazy. Me engaging you in that argument would end up taking up another 3 pages of use yelling back and forth till one of us eventually gets hit by the ban hammer, and seeing at how much nonsense I've dealt with in this thread alone, I'm gonna go ahead and skip out now.

So forgive me for not wanting to get involved in this

"What you posted just proves my point, but I'm not feeling like going into detail as to how your point proves my contrary conclusion."

Wrong once again. What I actually said was, "This comparison was a bunch of pointless dribble that only goes to further prove my point that you can't compare them". After that, I proceeded to justify what I said with "That comparison is incoherent, and the only thing that's "similar" about the two is the words you throw in to forcibly tie them together"

Once again, it was simply a stupid comparison. I can't rebut against it because it made no sense. For fuck sakes, you didn't even compare them. All you did was repeat the words "poorly written", "glorified", and "One dimensional" in both the paragraphs. You can literally apply that to any movie or game in existence.

Watch. I'm gonna do what you did, and show you why it doesn't work;

Oldboy: Poorly written Japanese fantasy about being unjustly locked up featuring characters with less than one dimension. Depicts an absolutely abhorrent relationship for the main character, and glorifies it. Throw in a dark ending and you get screaming fanboys.

Max Payne 3: Poorly written noir fantasy featuring characters with less than one dimension. Depicts an absolutely abhorrent situation for the main characters to participate in, and glorifies it. Throw in the fact that being the third game in the series, and nothing has changed. They REMOVED substance 'hair' from the game, and you get screaming fanatic boys.

Do you get it now? Do you understand why I chose to just not invest into that argument?

This same exact flame war has been going on since 2009. And it has never ended in anything except anger and fighting, as you can probably see.

Yes. Modern Warfare 3 repeated the same formula. Sequels tend to do that. Especially FPS sequels. You see it in anything. Halo, Battlefield, Medal of Honor. They're all identical if you analyze them in the way that you're doing with Call of Duty.

 

[JoesshittyOs]

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If that's what you consider a 'debate', than the Escapist clearly isn't for you.

Try the YouTube comment section. I'm sure they'll love you there.

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

But I dont understand, they made a motherfucking BILLION dollars in sales, doesn't that just mean that everyone who wanted the game bought it when it was released? It says black ops had a "thin tail" but this game has allready sold MORE than black ops.

Is there an economist or something who can explain this to me?

 

[Use_Imagination_here]

OR, and this is just a thought, you released the exact same game 3 times with no real changes. If you want people to play MW3, cut online service of MW and MW2. Plus that elite service thing probably doesn't help. Or perhaps, since MW3 sold so well, alot of those same people bought the game when it first came out, who knows.

Don't be silly! This is OBVIOUSLY the fault of used games sales and pirates.
also immigrants
and gay marriage

Well I think the only logical solution is to ban all of that crap and ostracise the foul beasts who would participate in such heinous crimes.

Note: this is more directed at the other three, I take issue with pirating.

I for one believe it's all the scientists fault. If they didn't invent computers, we couldn't play games and no one would have this problem god damnit.

Ot: No I seriously don't understand this at all. MW3 Sold MORE than black ops in just a month. They sold MORE, in a MONTH.

HOW HAVE THE SALES REDUCED? Couldn't this just mean that anyone who wanted the game just went out and bought it because this is a 15 year old series with one of the largest followings in the world and a motherfucking MASSIVE ad campaign.

Someone please explain this to me IF it makes any sense?

 

[satsugaikaze]

Yeah tails just mean that everyone who wanted it bought it, everyone who wasn't super enthusiastic won't buy it.

It's also a habit because people who wait for Activision's price drops have to wait much longer times before their games actually drop to an affordable price. Hence, people who wait only buy it much, much later and that's what makes the tail much thinner.

And if we're talking sales in units, cannibalization from the pre-owned market is affecting the sales in units since people are cycling the same units that have already been bought.
It's an argument separate from whether or not the series has stagnated or the quality has decreased (I personally think that it has stagnated into mediocrity since the first Modern Warfare, but w/e). The facts simply state that a large chunk of what could be new-release purchases are now pre-owned sales. It's both a symptom and a cause.

 

[Dryk]

Can you people please, ever, read the articles.

You clearly forgot that MW3 is the biggest selling media title OF ALL TIME.

Are they still only quoting the income for that though? Because making more money with a $60 product than a $10-15 product is not hard.

 

[LiquidSolstice]

All this shit coming from the same people who proclaim that to tell devs what we want, we should "vote with our wallets". Well, I guess people are voting with their wallets...

 

[Enslave_All_Elves]

*stomps Call of Duty's throat, smashes its head on sidewalk, furious punching and general RAAAGE*

huff puff... is it dead yet? did we finally kill it?

I... I don't know yet.

Hopefully a new shooter that doesn't have shitty maps and piss poor balance will come along.

You know, a price-drop after a few months could generate more tail-sales, but noooooo, Activision wouldn't want any AAA game released in the last 5 years to be even a penny under 60, now would they?

No no no! The obvious choice is to ban used game sales, kill retailers, and develop technology on the next gen so people can't play used game. That is all muuuch easier and respectful to consumers than simply dropping the price ten bucks.

How ironic. People claim that CoD is holding back the industry, when really it's one of the things that's keeping it afloat.

Bloated corpses do tend to float very well.

Ha! BAH ZING!