"Thin Tail" Call of Duty Drags Down Sales
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Maybe you missed the point of what I said from the very beginning. My whole deal here is that I have qualms with people who'll attempt to say that "CoD is holding gaming back" because they personally disliked the games, and than we get proof here that CoD is one of the highest profit margins coming in from gaming.Buretsu said:
Well, now we're entering into another argument all together. I'm not gonna sit here and try to tell you that it's not a shitty series, though with that said, gaming is a medium that doesn't reward shit. So in nearly every sense of it, it's not a crappy game series.Buretsu said:
What I have a problem with is people like you, who tend to spout off your opinion like it's fact. You didn't like the game? Then it probably just doesn't appeal to your tastes. You're just the loud minority that's strangely surprised that the triple A titles aren't being created to perform to you're niche expectations.
People don't dislike Cod because it's popular. They "hate" it (bash around internet, blame for everything bad in the world and so on) because it's popular. Seriously, ask yourself would you be here complaining about this franchise if it wasn't for it's popularity? Would all the "haters" be bashing it year after year if it wasn't so popular? No.Buretsu said:
If one game is holding up so much of the AAA industry, that suggests there's a problem with how most of the AAA game industry works (namely: too much of it is based on directly ripping the best guy off without giving thought as to WHY they're the best). The exception cannot support the norm forever, and ultimately the industry will either adapt, or collapse.JoesshittyOs said:
Given how badly Call of Duty 4.x wants everything to remain in stasis, you can bet that very few are even going to attempt to adapt even while they're going down in flames.
I don't hate something just because it's popular, I hate the CONSEQUENCES of it being popular.
There is a difference.
Nah shit, you think? Honestly, I was going through that whole thing to basically just avoid saying it bluntly. There is such thing as stupid opinions. When you sit there and try to tell me that the best selling game series in the world is a "shitty" game, than yeah. You're opinion is as close to wrong as an opinion can get. A 60 dollar game with that kind of reputation cannot be "shit".Buretsu said:
Examples of games that are actual shit? Superman 64, and most games that are movie spinoffs.
In the end, my opinion is going to be worth more because the masses tend to support my side. Sorry for being so blunt, but that seems to be the only way you'll get my point.
Yeah, that makes sense....wait....
Because MW3, a crappy clone shooter thats exactly the same was MW2 in almost every regard, is not selling well for a long time, that makes ALL games unlikely to do this?
What, the, fuck.
What about Skyrim? What about Minecraft? There are tons of games that continue to sell well for very long periods of time, just because your crappy shooter isn't doesn't mean thats the industry trend. If anything, its a GENRE trend. Shooters are boring and stale as hell right now.
Because MW3, a crappy clone shooter thats exactly the same was MW2 in almost every regard, is not selling well for a long time, that makes ALL games unlikely to do this?
What, the, fuck.
What about Skyrim? What about Minecraft? There are tons of games that continue to sell well for very long periods of time, just because your crappy shooter isn't doesn't mean thats the industry trend. If anything, its a GENRE trend. Shooters are boring and stale as hell right now.
Ah, you tried the "Twilight" defense. I already addressed that point, ie: Gaming as a medium does not reward shit in the same ways as Movies award shit. You can't compare a movie and a video game, because they're two unidentical art forms with different stigmas.Buretsu said:
I don't know how to tell you this without coming across as an asshole, but what the hell? You keep randomly jumping into this thread at different times after I've made a point of not responding to you, only to tell me that my opinion is wrong, and that you're clearly right.LastGreatBlasphemer said:
So I'll bite. This comparison was a bunch of pointless dribble that only goes to further prove my point that you can't compare them. That comparison is incoherent, and the only thing that's "similar" about the two is the words you throw in to forcibly tie them together. I'd put up a long post about how that makes no sense, but quite frankly, I'm not really feeling going into an in depth explanation about how Call of Duty is so drastically different from Twilight.
Oh, and I noticed you keep bringing up Black Ops. The campaign was a cheap knock off of Fight Club, and just simply wasn't fun.
You obviously don't live in AustraliaForgottenPr0digy said:
Triple that for us, basically.
It's not just COD though, sadly.
They do follow the same marketing plan.. something quick and thoughtless that panders to a large demographic.JoesshittyOs said:
Twilight is aimed at sexually frustrated girls who have fantasies about all the hot boys loving them.
CoD/MW/etc is aimed at ultra-hormonal males who have fantasies about guns and glory.
Their targets and tools are, obviously, vastly different, but the methodology is the same.
Once... Again... Opinions. Opinions, opinions, opinions. There is nothing about either of these to back up that they were quick and thoughtless. And unless you consider a two year long production 'quick' for a game like Call of Duty, than your wrong about that.Sylveria said:
Do you seriously not realize how broad last line is? You could literally say this about.... anything that's ever been made. That doesn't mean they're similar in any way shape or form.
That just means that they were marketed. Like every single thing that's ever had a price tag on it.
Which could be easily said about most video games out there. Not to mention that the demographic of people who play Call of Duty is comprised of more adults than most other games out there. Plus, half the people I know who have the game don't even give a shit about the Singleplayer. Call of Duty has a tremendous and diverse fan base.
Twilight does not.
For a game to have that "fat tail", it has to generate positive buzz. Despite the massive amount of people who bought MW3, most of these people are not generating positive buzz. They are telling everyone they know and everyone online, of how much of a piece of shit MW3 is.