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mrhappy1489 said:
What I'd say irritates me the most is when someone is adapting a book into film and rather than include all the characters, simply take one or two out and copy them onto another character. Game of Thrones for example, removed both Jojen and Meera Reed from the Second season and gave most of there dialogue to Osha (Which also meant they changed Asha's name to Yara because people might get confused). Now I can understand the need to keep the cast within limits, but Jojen and Meera are fairly important characters in the Bran arc and by taking away a portion of their lines and character building it might cause trouble down the road. Also what irritates is the way roles are reduced. Using Game of Thrones as an example again, Qhorin Halfhand's role was significantly reduced and thus his characters importance. He's responsible for teaching Jon some very strong life lessons while scouting Mance Rayder's camp and by removing that, Jon hasn't experienced nearly half the growth he did in the book. I realise that budget is a constraint, but honestly I'd rather have seen Jon and Qhorins interactions as opposed to his and Ygrittes. There is enough of that in the Third book, did they really need to take that away from Qhorin. By the way I love the show, bits of it just irk me.
I don't think its just the budget but also the time. The whole Qhorin thing I agree. The only real time both him and Jon actually got to talk about something serious was when Qhorin was toying with Jon about the purpose of the watchers on the wall. They only had a small amount of screen time together which made the scene where Jon stabs Qhorin less poignant. But it was either that or less screen time with Ygritte which I feel they did for build up in season 3.

With your Jojen and Meera though I can excuse them a bit for that. I can understand how introducing a LOT of characters in just a span of ten episodes can take its toll on the viewers. While I've never been confused with the characters (Primarily because I watch reruns of the damn show practically everyday in my man cave) introducing too many characters and forcing each of them to have a screen time can be quite challenging. My guess is that they just didn't add them because it would be cramming too much and the scenes might not have been able to flesh out the story well enough if that happened.

From what I understand though, they're making Book three into two seasons and based on some of the things that I've read some of the things missed in season 2 will be brought up in season 3. This makes sense in that it would be easy to introduce new characters at the beginning of a new season for Bran since some of the characters related to Bran's plotline being dead, such as Maester Lewyn and so on.

There are a lot of differences, but at least (well for me) it doesn't really completely ruin the experience.
 

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Milk a franchise to the point of no return, or make prequels that fuck up the whole series.
 

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two things: One where a angry woman slaps a man (sometimes she has somthing to be mad about other times less so.) and he immediately apologizes... NO! I don't care if you are a woman, you don't get to go around hitting people! What are you five? Keep your hands to yourself. And I would love to see at least one charecter retaliate from a woman hitting him without being portrayed as a unrepentent scumbag. Also when a villian holds a family member or love intrest (or occasionally just a buddy.) hostage and the hero totally gives in even though his plan involves killing thousands of innocent people... Seriously how selfish is that?
 

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people who cant do martial arts in martial arts based action scenes, it just breaks it for me.
almost anything regarding space, big ships acting like boats, small ones like planes, sound, explosions, the effects of exposure to vacuum (its actually very mild and survivable as many living victims can attest.
Shaky cam. esp in action scenes. zack snyder does it right, sucker punch /300

but the crowning turd in the water pipe the one that has me walking out of hurling a cinemas hurling abuse at the screen is an unwarranted happy ending. Now i like me a happy ending, but sometimes a happy ending isnt appropriate, sometimes it wants to be neutral or a bit melancholy and sometimes it should be tragic. Now source code.. the whole film the guy in the centre has no clue. the audience works it out at various stages and that should of had a heart rendingly sad ending. but 10 minutes till the end disney walks in waves its magic wand and.. well i hate it.
 

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When they say "our project will have x or y that is unlike any x or y which has come before!"

It's... it's always a lie. Every time they say it. I just want to take them by the scruff of the neck and mutter at them under my breath.

Liar.
 

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Ahhh.... heroes moralizing after they've killed many grunts. "I won't be like you, I won't kill you" spiel when they are facing the villain, and yet they've slayed their way to them. It doesn't make any bloody sense.
Shaky cam during fights, I want to see what the hell is going on.
Setting something/someone up as a great fighter, and then having them be completely useless in a fight versus the heroes. Like the stormtroopers or the uruk-hai. Seriously, an entire group of uruk-hai fight Aragron alone and they can't kill him. Yet they are supposed to be superior fighters in comparison to orcs.
Religion in movies. It's fine if its a fantasy religion, but when the movie preaches about god and blah blah blah I just can't take it.

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As for space: Why are your goddamn spaceships areodynamic? They are built for space. They don't need to be. Also: dont ever build a warship for space with a front and back. It's stupid. You should be able to fire in all directions, and move in all directions. Otherwise you are going to get hit from every single side but the one you are facing.
And no, you wouldn't freeze to death or explode in space. Your bodyheat has nowhere to go, you would die due to no pressure (your lungs working in reverse for example).
 

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I hate the fucking trope where the female love interest is about to get raped but then the male lead shows up (just in time!) and saves her from the rape. I used to think this shit was restricted to badly written romance like Twilight, but it's in all sorts of things from V for Vendetta to A Song of Ice and Fire. I don't understand it. Is it meant to exemplify the pure untainted virtue of the white knight, because he's willing to fight for his love interests virginity? Is it meant to show what a big strong manly protector he is, saving the weak little woman from rapists? Or are they trying to say "Yeah this guy's a dick, but hey, at least he's not a rapist!"
 

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Ahh, yes. The romantic subplot. 99% of the time, they hold no relevance, drag the story down, and are become "love" when the people haven't even known each other for a week, let alone a proper amount of years. The worst offender in this regard I've ever seen has got to be Percy Jackson and the Olympians: The Lightning Thief. Granted, there were sooooo many things wrong with that. Piss-porr logic on everyone's part, Mary-Sue protagonist, and several other things. But the romantic sub-plot really stood out in terms of awful. In a crowd scene, Percy actually looks into the distance, sees this one girl in a fencing match among all these people, and asks "who is that"? They just threw that in there for no reason. And yes, she is the love interest.

Oh yeah, how about not paying attention to your source material? The Last Airbender. So many names and words are mispronounced, important characters are missing, virtually the entire cast is American, the fight scenes look like Power Rangers instead of real martial arts, they get Momo's race wrong, Aang somehow creates a tsunami even though he couldn't do that in the Avatar state in the original TV series... Just why?

There's also an overload of random coincidences and deus ex machinas. This is what ruined The Hobbit for me. I would have enjoyed it a lot more if everyone didn't run into random luck on every other page. And those dwarves... why did there need to be so many? I couldn't even tell them apart. Just leave Thorin in. The rest just seemed pointless.

You know what else I hate? Lose-Lose situation lying. You know, when something bad happens and a character lies, taking all the blame for it, and this lie does not help anything in any way, shape, or form.

Another thing that always drives me crazy is when someone is fighting a shapeshifter, and said shapeshifter tales on the form of their opponent's loved one. Suddenly, the guy can't bring himself to fight the shapeshifter, even though he/she knows what he/she is looking at isn't what they look like! They know it's the shapeshifter, and they still freeze up and become incapable of fighting! It's so stupid!

Oh, and one more thing: "Let's split up! We can cover more ground that way!"
 

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There was a period a few years back when horror movies would come out with a surprise twist where there'd be a scene or two with some ghosts doing ghost shit, but then at the end they'd show us those scenes again except it was really the father or the handyman doing that ghost shit. I hate when a director tells me I didn't actually see what I fucking saw earlier in the movie because they're not clever enough to achieve a surprise twist without cheating.
Also Ken Burns and the multitude of his copycats. Photographs are not meant to be viewed in a slow pan from left to right, nor with a slow zoom in or out. Stop ruining good photographs because you don't think your audience can handle a few seconds without motion, asshole.
 

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Ledan said:
Ahhh.... heroes moralizing after they've killed many grunts. "I won't be like you, I won't kill you" spiel when they are facing the villain, and yet they've slayed their way to them. It doesn't make any bloody sense.
Shaky cam during fights, I want to see what the hell is going on.
Setting something/someone up as a great fighter, and then having them be completely useless in a fight versus the heroes. Like the stormtroopers or the uruk-hai. Seriously, an entire group of uruk-hai fight Aragron alone and they can't kill him. Yet they are supposed to be superior fighters in comparison to orcs.
Religion in movies. It's fine if its a fantasy religion, but when the movie preaches about god and blah blah blah I just can't take it.

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As for space: Why are your goddamn spaceships areodynamic? They are built for space. They don't need to be. Also: dont ever build a warship for space with a front and back. It's stupid. You should be able to fire in all directions, and move in all directions. Otherwise you are going to get hit from every single side but the one you are facing.
And no, you wouldn't freeze to death or explode in space. Your bodyheat has nowhere to go, you would die due to no pressure (your lungs working in reverse for example).
I want to see a movie where someone in vacuum dies from the radiation cooking him alive. Since radiation is the only way to transfer heat and energy in space, it would be neat seeing someone in a pressurized suit instead get roasted by the sun.

As for spaceships, it really depends on how you play it. I can accept it in something like Star Wars where you've got ships being analogs for WW2 aircraft carriers and little starfighters. It makes sense in the series' context.

Likewise in the new Battlestar Galactica. Nukes are still the strongest weapons in both the Cylon and Human arsenals. Mounting them on extremely maneuverable snubfighters increases the chances of striking targets dramatically. Also, I really love how the new BSG dealt with maneuvering and sound. Sound was often muted in combat, and only really played up when you were close to the ship or in the cockpit. In the cockpit, having an audio feedback would be a great way to help pilots keep track of their shots, even if it is simulated sound.

As for maneuverability, they really played around with thrusters and inertia, letting fighters tilt and angle themselves while still traveling in a straight line. It really added another layer to space combat. They were falling into dogfights rather than flying into them.
 

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Those plots in books, almost always books anyway, where the protagonists have to split up for whatever reason and go off on two separate adventures. And then one group finds out something important that the second group needs to know. And they keep trying to find each other and keep just barely missing each other through some contrived circumstance. And Group 2 almost cocks up the mission but then group 1 catches up with them just in time to tell them the important thing and everything is well again.

I loath this so much, I can't even say why but I guess the fact that I know how it's going to go the moment they split up probably plays a part. It's just so frustrating and I want to yell at the book/screen "No you idiots you're doing it wrong!"
 

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Fanservice. Mother. Fucking. FANSERVICE. Unless it's done to parody something (i.e. Godannar), Fanservice is just really, really... sloppy. It's kinda the same as dumbing a movie/story down because you think someone out there isn't going to get it - rather than doing something amazing and cool to get your fans to love it, the writer just slaps some tits in there that jiggle outside the bounds of physics and calls it a day.
Ahh, yes. That. It's starting to kill My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic for me. These people are just randomly applying fan-made concepts without giving any thought to what these ideas truly represent.

Why have they added "Alicorn" into the vocabulary? Why is that word being used to describe Unicron/Pegasus/Earth Pony hybrids? It makes no sense. It sounds too much like "Unicorn". I liked it better when people used it to mean a unicorn's horn. Also, breaking the fourth wall is sooooo beyond unfitting for this show! And now we have Gundam style (or whatever it's called) on the front cover of the new comic book series. Sure, let's forget all of those original, thoughtful ideas, and replace them with the one hit from a one-hit wonder that demands you to do what he does, even though he keeps changing the steps and makes rather immature remarks to women. 'Cause, you know, that's what My Little Pony is all about.

The only one that actually seemed kinda good was when Derpy Hooves showed up legitimately. And we all know how badly they screwed that up in censorship. Now, I hear they're planning to rename her "Bubbles".
 

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It was a bad idea to put someone like Derpy in in the first place. The terminology of Derp was created as an internet catch phrase for a mentally retarded person. Without thinking, the show developers put a character related with a meme onto the show, not realizing what the name stood for or how it would go down with the parents of the show's target demographic.
 

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The series Chuck does something that I started noticing and is rather starting to annoy me. Every female in this show is hot. I don't mine eye candy, but they're always dress up so obviously to please the so called "nerds" that watch the show. At first I didn't mind, but now it is getting ridiculous. The absolutely worst thing is the difference between the male (normal trousers and white shirt) and female (miniskirt and a shirt that's not buttoned up fully) dress code in the Nerd Herd. I didn't mind the Leather suit of Black Widow in The Avengers, because even if you could see nothing, it still was the female form, to which I am attracted to whatsoever...
 

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When they try to wedge in their Left or Right American political views, i.e. "Democrat or Republican" nonsense. Always in a movie or novel that has nothing to do with it.

Few problems with this. One, it makes you look like a buffoon who treats politics like a Ra-Ra football game. Two, it dates the novel/film, cementing it in whatever awful political-era the director/writer chooses. "Ugh, remember the 2012 election season?" "Yea, and I don't want to remember. Fuck this movie."

There is nothing worse than a politically slanted history book. Good examples are all the books on the Iraq war, when the war was still waging (as it is now).
 

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Sexy Devil said:
thaluikhain said:
Basically, any revisionist history, unless it's way over the top and obvious.

Changing a rela life person's ethnicity to "appeal to a wider audience"...blech.

Eddie the head said:
I ***** about this almost every time but. You take off your helmet in space, your head freezes solid. I hate that. I just hate it.
You hate that they show it, or you hate that they don't?

It could go either way, depending on things.
I'm quite certain that it wouldn't go either way. You'd lose all oxygen in your lungs and would get the bends but your head isn't going to freeze solid for no apparent reason.
If you suddenly end up in hard vacuum, then no, but if you are in a pressurised environment which suddenly depressurised, the atmosphere et al expands into vacuum, taking a lot of heat with it. If you take of your helmet in a vacuum, all the air in the helmet suddenly wants to absorb heat from teh surroundings, such as your head.
 

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Shaky cam. It's not that I get motion sickness from it (although I understand that people do, which in itself is a valid reason to never use it ever), but it's just annoying as shit and adds absolutely nothing to the film. Also, lens flare for the exact same reasons. Hell, just about anything that reminds me that I'm watching the movie through a camera pisses me off, especially because the only reason these things are in the movie is because they were deliberately added to it.
I 'unno, I reckon you only get sick of that if you see it one too many times; I still think the D-Day scene of Saving Private Ryan (as well as, y'know, the rest of the film) is really, really well done; but then again 1. it's confined to about that 20 minutes of film and 2. I haven't seen any other films that actually use it (the most 'recent' one I've watched is Four Lions, so...).

Sure, using it all the time is bullshit, but I don't reckon it's necessarily a bad thing in and of itself.

As for space and realism; it can work both ways, sure it's unrealistic, but who watches a film for realism? It can work both ways, compare Star Wars to 2001: A Space Odyssey; the sounds in the first are thrilling, and wouldn't be so if it played out in dead silence, the silence in the latter is of the utmost importance.
 

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mechashiva77 said:
consenually (really chrome? Is this really not a word)
You must be pretty tired, you misspelled "consensually", though that's really fucked up, so if I'm correct, his ex was engaged, and rapes him anyway out of spite?
Aside form that, I completely agree with you, more though I just get annoyed with the formula, where the protagonist must leave their girlfriend/boyfriend, and they absolutely must break up at some point, God help us if somebody tries something new.
 

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Ledan said:
Setting something/someone up as a great fighter, and then having them be completely useless in a fight versus the heroes. Like the stormtroopers or the uruk-hai. Seriously, an entire group of uruk-hai fight Aragron alone and they can't kill him. Yet they are supposed to be superior fighters in comparison to orcs.
Nobody seems to remember any scene where they actually are a threat, in the end of the first movie, Aragorn gets his ass handed to him by one large uruk-hai, when they were fighting in helms deep he gets hit a few times, and has to run away several times because there's too many orcs that he was fighting.

Far better than the books, I think the worst thing that ever happened to him in those was an arrow went through the hood of his cloak and ruffled his hair.
 

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Eddie the head said:
I ***** about this almost every time but. You take off your helmet in space, your head freezes solid. I hate that. I just hate it.
What actually happens? My only knowledge of space-death stems from movies so I'm totally ignorant on that subject, but it does intrigue me.