This, for me is the worst thing about the 2 COD modern warfares I've played. Oh there's a sniper? Well it's not gonna do me any good is it? Why do I have to run in and take them out?DeeTee said:
Things that games SHOULD NOT do...
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1. Badly paced story. A lot of games are guilty of this, because they try to stretch what's essentially a two hour story over eight hours of game. Games aren't films. Stop writing them like they are, and figure out ways around this problem.
2. Random gameplay gimmicks. If I've been shooting bad guys on foot for several hours and enjoying it, please don't surprise me with an awful vehicle section. They're not enjoyable, and break the flow of the game. I'm looking at you Half-Life 2 and Gears Of War. Halo, you managed to do it well. Have a gold star.
3. Celebrity voice actors. This has to stop. Again, games aren't movies. There are many talented voice actors out there such as Jennifer Hale, without having to resort to using celebrities. Honestly, I couldn't appreciate San Andreas properly, because as good as his voice acting was, the main villain was Samuel L Jackson, not the character.
4. Bad voice actors. Sort of a similar deal. They break immersion and can grind a perfectly good plot to a halt.
5. Cliffhanger endings. These are bullshit. I pay £40 for a complete experience, not half of one. Most plot threads should be tied up by the end, with maybe one or two left open for sequels. Speaking of which...
6. Unnecessary sequels. So, the hero has fought the evil empire, killed the emperor, restored peace to the nation and got the girl. The story's over. But the game sold well, so here comes the sequel where an even eviller empire comes out of nowhere to attack, and kills the hero's girlfriend etc. Please stop with this. If I'm impressed with your first game, I'll likely look into any new IP you release. There's no need to crank out a sequel.
7. Not releasing a demo. I understand that sometimes it's just not possible to release one, but a demo can mean the difference between me throwing down my £40 or not. I wouldn't have bought Split/Second before playing the demo. Or Darksiders, or Splinter Cell Conviction. But Alpha Protocol didn't have a demo, and I'd rather not take the risk.
8. Making the main quest the least interesting aspect. I'm looking at you Oblivion. I guarantee more people remember the Dark Brotherhood quests than the actual story.
9. Don't make the game linear when the world needs to be explored. Final Fantasy XIII. Corridorlicious.
10. Don't make the game a sandbox when it's not required. Far Cry 2. Guard posts everywhere.
11. Don't make me sit out of the best parts. How cool were those MGS4 cutscenes? Characters jumping everywhere, having badass fight sequences in slow motion, pulling crazy moves. How much of that could I do in the game itself? Fuck all. Same happened with Uncharted 2. I felt like I was privy to a load of cool scripted sequences, without actually getting to fully interact with any of them. If I want a cinematic experience, I'll watch a film.
I think that's all for now. I'll chime back in later if I think of more.
2. Random gameplay gimmicks. If I've been shooting bad guys on foot for several hours and enjoying it, please don't surprise me with an awful vehicle section. They're not enjoyable, and break the flow of the game. I'm looking at you Half-Life 2 and Gears Of War. Halo, you managed to do it well. Have a gold star.
3. Celebrity voice actors. This has to stop. Again, games aren't movies. There are many talented voice actors out there such as Jennifer Hale, without having to resort to using celebrities. Honestly, I couldn't appreciate San Andreas properly, because as good as his voice acting was, the main villain was Samuel L Jackson, not the character.
4. Bad voice actors. Sort of a similar deal. They break immersion and can grind a perfectly good plot to a halt.
5. Cliffhanger endings. These are bullshit. I pay £40 for a complete experience, not half of one. Most plot threads should be tied up by the end, with maybe one or two left open for sequels. Speaking of which...
6. Unnecessary sequels. So, the hero has fought the evil empire, killed the emperor, restored peace to the nation and got the girl. The story's over. But the game sold well, so here comes the sequel where an even eviller empire comes out of nowhere to attack, and kills the hero's girlfriend etc. Please stop with this. If I'm impressed with your first game, I'll likely look into any new IP you release. There's no need to crank out a sequel.
7. Not releasing a demo. I understand that sometimes it's just not possible to release one, but a demo can mean the difference between me throwing down my £40 or not. I wouldn't have bought Split/Second before playing the demo. Or Darksiders, or Splinter Cell Conviction. But Alpha Protocol didn't have a demo, and I'd rather not take the risk.
8. Making the main quest the least interesting aspect. I'm looking at you Oblivion. I guarantee more people remember the Dark Brotherhood quests than the actual story.
9. Don't make the game linear when the world needs to be explored. Final Fantasy XIII. Corridorlicious.
10. Don't make the game a sandbox when it's not required. Far Cry 2. Guard posts everywhere.
11. Don't make me sit out of the best parts. How cool were those MGS4 cutscenes? Characters jumping everywhere, having badass fight sequences in slow motion, pulling crazy moves. How much of that could I do in the game itself? Fuck all. Same happened with Uncharted 2. I felt like I was privy to a load of cool scripted sequences, without actually getting to fully interact with any of them. If I want a cinematic experience, I'll watch a film.
I think that's all for now. I'll chime back in later if I think of more.
Yeah or the opposite inAstylahAthrys said:
Splinter Cell : Conviction It's a stealth game and they dump that action sequence in there... we know they can do action games so what was the need? other than story purpose, but they could of easily done it some other way ):
But to be more on topic..
I hate having to do a tutorial section at the start of the game. For example, Assassins Creed.
I prefer a little pop up like R* do it just showing briefly what to do. But a whole freakin level dedicated to something I could learn in a few minutes is something which I despise.
How could I forget to add this?
Including scripted, coded, fully functional things in games, but having them unobtainable.
Rockstar did this many times with the GTA series, especially with the IV DLCs...
I mean, in The Ballad of Gay Tony there was a fully functional Skylift helicopter, and you coult only obtain it by difficult means during a mission...
It also had a couple of vehicles that weren't even mission exclusive, they were out of the game altogether.
Although I must give a big thanks to the 360 modders out there that allowed me to test drive these unobtainable vehicles...
Including scripted, coded, fully functional things in games, but having them unobtainable.
Rockstar did this many times with the GTA series, especially with the IV DLCs...
I mean, in The Ballad of Gay Tony there was a fully functional Skylift helicopter, and you coult only obtain it by difficult means during a mission...
It also had a couple of vehicles that weren't even mission exclusive, they were out of the game altogether.
Although I must give a big thanks to the 360 modders out there that allowed me to test drive these unobtainable vehicles...
Fair enough. It's a gaming podcast, and in a recent episode the Alan Wake developers made pretty much the exact point you did, almost word for word.FargoDog said:I genuinely don't know what Kotaku Talk Radio is.scnj said:You listened to the Alan Wake episode of Kotaku Talk Radio, didn't you?FargoDog said:
I was basing it from games like The Darkness and Stranglehold, which both had online multiplayer that no one ever played and was awful, while the single-player campaigns were alright, they could have benefited from a bit more polish and time, which was probably wasted on adding online.
I agree with L.FargoDog said:
Also, have to say it would be sudden gameplay changes for no real reason. For example, take Dead Rising. A really great hack and slash zombie game. That is, until near the end of Overtime mode, when you are suddenly forced to use a gun turret. And again for the final boss, when you are forced to use hand-to-hand combat for the only time in the entire game.
Sequels that are prequels. They simply cannot contain a suspenseful story, because every character you do not recognize from the original will die, and everyone you do remember will live.
Forced stealth missions, especially in games that allow for customization of the main character
Fetch quests in RPGs that force you to travel across the map. They.Just.Suck.
Releasing a sequel that excludes everything that has made the franchise great. Looking at you, C&C4...
Games based on movies. Sorry, but I honestly don't know a single one that was good.
Not having autosave or the option to save at will.
Any series that is longer than 4 games.
Forced stealth missions, especially in games that allow for customization of the main character
Fetch quests in RPGs that force you to travel across the map. They.Just.Suck.
Releasing a sequel that excludes everything that has made the franchise great. Looking at you, C&C4...
Games based on movies. Sorry, but I honestly don't know a single one that was good.
Not having autosave or the option to save at will.
Any series that is longer than 4 games.