Things that the fans have ruined for you

[PunkRex]

Death Note and Cowboy Bebop. I heard both shows were the greatest thing ever to bless man. I watched both shows. I thought that they were good but not masterpieces. I get still gets tons of hate from the deathnote fanbase for pointing out things I disliked about it to not make it a masterpiece and tons of messages from fans explaining why my criticisms are wrong(I have yet to have one that make sa lick of sense though).
And don't get me started on the Bebop fanbase, the thing is so massive and so many people love what I see as an incredibly average show and every time I mention something about anime I like or see a list of someone elses there si always someone who will say something along the lines of "you forgot bebop".
Needless to say I liked both shows watching them but I deslike both now because all I can think about watching them is the fanbase and it really ruined them for me.

Oh christ I forgot about Bebop. I think it has something to do with it being the first truly adult(ish) show many anime fans like myself watched. My word they act like its the mark all anime must be measured by, its good but they need to take it easy.

Anyways Outlaw Star was better, OH SNAP... still love Ed though.

 

[Alterego-X]

Ponies.

Yeah I saw a few episodes, it's a good cartoon but everyone who associates as a "brony" is a fucking retard who needs to grow up.

Including Gabe Newell.

 

[bafrali]

Ponies.

Yeah I saw a few episodes, it's a good cartoon but everyone who associates as a "brony" is a fucking retard who needs to grow up.

Including Gabe Newell.

He said i watch MLP, which doesn't translate to brony.

 

[game-lover]

My first thought?

Twilight.

I never thought it was fantastic but I enjoyed it at first and even watched the movies. But time and time again, the fans went nuts and now...

Really, it's more that I don't consider myself a big fan or much of a fan at all. It was a relatively all right story. But now I can't feel the way I used to. I'm suddenly seeing all the flaws in the story when it was quite easy to ignore them at first.


Other than that? Nothing much affects the way I feel about something.

 

[Alterego-X]

Ponies.

Yeah I saw a few episodes, it's a good cartoon but everyone who associates as a "brony" is a fucking retard who needs to grow up.

Including Gabe Newell.

He said i watch MLP, which doesn't translate to brony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPjFavgKO5I

- ...I watch My Little Pony.
- You're a brony?
- Yep!

The point is, that most people don't see all that much difference between watching MLP and considering it good, and being a brony, so using the term as a watershed between a normal parson and a "fucking retard who needs to grow up", is kinda silly.

 

[CrazyGirl17]

Twilight fangirls. I'm not a fan of the books, but I find the crazy ones annoying. Hell, that also goes for other fandoms of mine, like Sonic the Hedgehog, My Little Pony, Kingdom Hearts, Furries... I uh, have a lot of weird tastes.

And the people who complained about Mass Effect 3's ending. Look, I did't like it either, but when you take part in a charity, only to think it's going to change the ending, then you really need to get your priorities straight!

 

[bafrali]

Ponies.

Yeah I saw a few episodes, it's a good cartoon but everyone who associates as a "brony" is a fucking retard who needs to grow up.

Including Gabe Newell.

He said i watch MLP, which doesn't translate to brony.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPjFavgKO5I

- ...I watch My Little Pony.
- You're a brony?
- Yep!

The point is, that most people don't see all that much difference between watching MLP and considering it good, and being a brony, so using the term as a watershed between a normal parson and a "fucking retard who needs to grow up", is kinda silly.

Which i fully agree with.

 

[DracoSuave]

V for Vendetta, specifically V's outfit. I think he looks really cool, and I love the mask, but since it's become the symbol of Anonymous and the Occupy movement it'd be impossible to wear it as a costume.

There's reasons they use Guy Faulkes as iconry.

So they can overthrow a Protestant parliament in favour of setting up an even more oppressive Catholic rule?

Good to know.

See this?

This is why people hate fanboys. Because when you bring up a point that the Guy Faulkes mask has symbolism that they intend to invoke... some fanboy or nerd or whatever comes in and takes that symbol WAY TO LITERALLY and--usually unknowingly--turns it into a strawman, that all symbols must be taken exact and has specific meanings and CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THOSE MEANINGS.

There's two main reasons they use it, both of which are absolutely relative to what they are doing.

One) Guy Faulkes was someone who stood up for his beliefs against what he perceived as religious tyranny. That's WHY he was used as a symbol for V in V for Vendetta, because V was standing up against a religious tyranny. There's a reason why he had a celebrated holiday in Britain... the gunpowder plot isn't just 'zomg terrorism' but has other meanings that resonate through British history.

Two) It's also a symbol for Epic Fail Guy and reflects the sense of humor and admittance of futility within the movement itself.

Ugh.

Nerds!

 

[Daystar Clarion]

V for Vendetta, specifically V's outfit. I think he looks really cool, and I love the mask, but since it's become the symbol of Anonymous and the Occupy movement it'd be impossible to wear it as a costume.

There's reasons they use Guy Faulkes as iconry.

So they can overthrow a Protestant parliament in favour of setting up an even more oppressive Catholic rule?

Good to know.

See this?

This is why people hate fanboys. Because when you bring up a point that the Guy Faulkes mask has symbolism that they intend to invoke... some fanboy or nerd or whatever comes in and takes that symbol WAY TO LITERALLY and--usually unknowingly--turns it into a strawman, that all symbols must be taken exact and has specific meanings and CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THOSE MEANINGS.

There's two main reasons they use it, both of which are absolutely relative to what they are doing.

One) Guy Faulkes was someone who stood up for his beliefs against what he perceived as religious tyranny. That's WHY he was used as a symbol for V in V for Vendetta, because V was standing up against a religious tyranny. There's a reason why he had a celebrated holiday in Britain... the gunpowder plot isn't just 'zomg terrorism' but has other meanings that resonate through British history.

Two) It's also a symbol for Epic Fail Guy and reflects the sense of humor and admittance of futility within the movement itself.

Ugh.

Nerds!

Lol wut?

Knowing history and expecting symbols of history to be accurate to said history makes me a nerd?

Also, we don't have a holiday celebrating the Guy, just so you know.

Good to know!

 

[Vorpal Chill]

I try not to let the fans of a series get to me. If the source material is good enough no amount of idiots is going to turn me away.

 

[DracoSuave]

V for Vendetta, specifically V's outfit. I think he looks really cool, and I love the mask, but since it's become the symbol of Anonymous and the Occupy movement it'd be impossible to wear it as a costume.

There's reasons they use Guy Faulkes as iconry.

So they can overthrow a Protestant parliament in favour of setting up an even more oppressive Catholic rule?

Good to know.

See this?

This is why people hate fanboys. Because when you bring up a point that the Guy Faulkes mask has symbolism that they intend to invoke... some fanboy or nerd or whatever comes in and takes that symbol WAY TO LITERALLY and--usually unknowingly--turns it into a strawman, that all symbols must be taken exact and has specific meanings and CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THOSE MEANINGS.

There's two main reasons they use it, both of which are absolutely relative to what they are doing.

One) Guy Faulkes was someone who stood up for his beliefs against what he perceived as religious tyranny. That's WHY he was used as a symbol for V in V for Vendetta, because V was standing up against a religious tyranny. There's a reason why he had a celebrated holiday in Britain... the gunpowder plot isn't just 'zomg terrorism' but has other meanings that resonate through British history.

Two) It's also a symbol for Epic Fail Guy and reflects the sense of humor and admittance of futility within the movement itself.

Ugh.

Nerds!

Lol wut?

Knowing history and expecting symbols of history to be accurate to said history makes me a nerd?

Also, we don't have a holiday celebrating the Guy, just so you know.

Good to know!

Yes, expecting symbols to be 100% accurate to the historical event is pretty unreasonable. Because that is called 'literalism' and 'literalism' is kinda antithetical to 'symbolism' and 'metaphor.'

Look, if there's an analogy, pointing out where the analogy breaks down doesn't change the obvious intent of the message. It's kinda like complaining that calling a ship 'she' is inappropriate because ships don't have tits, or saying that 'I see five sails!' is inexact because it doesn't mention the rest of the ships, or all the sails could be on the same ship... and yet our wonderful language, art, and culture has, as part of its poetry and beauty, the ability to use anthroporphization and synechdoche and metonomy, and all sorts of figurative speech to describe with grand imagination and flourish the wonders of our universe.

And yet here you are, rules lawyering a METAPHOR.

Now imagine if you're watching... for sake of argument... a wire-fu movie like Hero. I love this movie. It is a gorgeous film, very intellegent, and every fight scene is coreographed not only to BE a wire-fu fight scene, but is also symbolic of the stories being told within its framing device. And yet, there's always this one nerd who says 'I hate this movie because during this one fight scene, Hero left himself open and Flying Snow could totally have killed him but didn't and it would be totally apparent to everyone so it makes no sense.'

That is why good people don't rules-lawyer figures of speech and symbolism. It's nothing more than an attempt to look smarter than the artist, when in reality, it exposes an obliviousness to the artist's message itself.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

V for Vendetta, specifically V's outfit. I think he looks really cool, and I love the mask, but since it's become the symbol of Anonymous and the Occupy movement it'd be impossible to wear it as a costume.

There's reasons they use Guy Faulkes as iconry.

So they can overthrow a Protestant parliament in favour of setting up an even more oppressive Catholic rule?

Good to know.

See this?

This is why people hate fanboys. Because when you bring up a point that the Guy Faulkes mask has symbolism that they intend to invoke... some fanboy or nerd or whatever comes in and takes that symbol WAY TO LITERALLY and--usually unknowingly--turns it into a strawman, that all symbols must be taken exact and has specific meanings and CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THOSE MEANINGS.

There's two main reasons they use it, both of which are absolutely relative to what they are doing.

One) Guy Faulkes was someone who stood up for his beliefs against what he perceived as religious tyranny. That's WHY he was used as a symbol for V in V for Vendetta, because V was standing up against a religious tyranny. There's a reason why he had a celebrated holiday in Britain... the gunpowder plot isn't just 'zomg terrorism' but has other meanings that resonate through British history.

Two) It's also a symbol for Epic Fail Guy and reflects the sense of humor and admittance of futility within the movement itself.

Ugh.

Nerds!

Lol wut?

Knowing history and expecting symbols of history to be accurate to said history makes me a nerd?

Also, we don't have a holiday celebrating the Guy, just so you know.

Good to know!

Yes, expecting symbols to be 100% accurate to the historical event is pretty unreasonable. Because that is called 'literalism' and 'literalism' is kinda antithetical to 'symbolism' and 'metaphor.'

Look, if there's an analogy, pointing out where the analogy breaks down doesn't change the obvious intent of the message. It's kinda like complaining that calling a ship 'she' is inappropriate because ships don't have tits, or saying that 'I see five sails!' is inexact because it doesn't mention the rest of the ships, or all the sails could be on the same ship... and yet our wonderful language, art, and culture has, as part of its poetry and beauty, the ability to use anthroporphization and synechdoche and metonomy, and all sorts of figurative speech to describe with grand imagination and flourish the wonders of our universe.

And yet here you are, rules lawyering a METAPHOR.

Now imagine if you're watching... for sake of argument... a wire-fu movie like Hero. I love this movie. It is a gorgeous film, very intellegent, and every fight scene is coreographed not only to BE a wire-fu fight scene, but is also symbolic of the stories being told within its framing device. And yet, there's always this one nerd who says 'I hate this movie because during this one fight scene, Hero left himself open and Flying Snow could totally have killed him but didn't and it would be totally apparent to everyone so it makes no sense.'

That is why good people don't rules-lawyer figures of speech and symbolism. It's nothing more than an attempt to look smarter than the artist, when in reality, it exposes an obliviousness to the artist's message itself.

Yeah, you kind of trailed off a bit there...

V for Vendetta wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Correct?

Guy Fawkes attempted to destroy a Protestant Parliament so that he could install an even more oppressive Catholic rule.

Are you with me so far?

V for Vendetta isn't about doing what you believe is right, it was about some dude destroying a fascist regime.

Unless it was done ironically, wearing a Fawkes mask is kind of a dumb move.

Kind of like wearing a Swastika and fighting for Jewish rights.

Yeah, that's right, Godwin's Law all up in this *****

History.

How does it fucking work?

Art isn't an infallible defence for pulling dumbshit moves.

 

[Compatriot Block]

V for Vendetta, specifically V's outfit. I think he looks really cool, and I love the mask, but since it's become the symbol of Anonymous and the Occupy movement it'd be impossible to wear it as a costume.

There's reasons they use Guy Faulkes as iconry.

So they can overthrow a Protestant parliament in favour of setting up an even more oppressive Catholic rule?

Good to know.

See this?

This is why people hate fanboys. Because when you bring up a point that the Guy Faulkes mask has symbolism that they intend to invoke... some fanboy or nerd or whatever comes in and takes that symbol WAY TO LITERALLY and--usually unknowingly--turns it into a strawman, that all symbols must be taken exact and has specific meanings and CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THOSE MEANINGS.

There's two main reasons they use it, both of which are absolutely relative to what they are doing.

One) Guy Faulkes was someone who stood up for his beliefs against what he perceived as religious tyranny. That's WHY he was used as a symbol for V in V for Vendetta, because V was standing up against a religious tyranny. There's a reason why he had a celebrated holiday in Britain... the gunpowder plot isn't just 'zomg terrorism' but has other meanings that resonate through British history.

Two) It's also a symbol for Epic Fail Guy and reflects the sense of humor and admittance of futility within the movement itself.

Ugh.

Nerds!

Lol wut?

Knowing history and expecting symbols of history to be accurate to said history makes me a nerd?

Also, we don't have a holiday celebrating the Guy, just so you know.

Good to know!

Yes, expecting symbols to be 100% accurate to the historical event is pretty unreasonable. Because that is called 'literalism' and 'literalism' is kinda antithetical to 'symbolism' and 'metaphor.'

Look, if there's an analogy, pointing out where the analogy breaks down doesn't change the obvious intent of the message. It's kinda like complaining that calling a ship 'she' is inappropriate because ships don't have tits, or saying that 'I see five sails!' is inexact because it doesn't mention the rest of the ships, or all the sails could be on the same ship... and yet our wonderful language, art, and culture has, as part of its poetry and beauty, the ability to use anthroporphization and synechdoche and metonomy, and all sorts of figurative speech to describe with grand imagination and flourish the wonders of our universe.

And yet here you are, rules lawyering a METAPHOR.

Now imagine if you're watching... for sake of argument... a wire-fu movie like Hero. I love this movie. It is a gorgeous film, very intellegent, and every fight scene is coreographed not only to BE a wire-fu fight scene, but is also symbolic of the stories being told within its framing device. And yet, there's always this one nerd who says 'I hate this movie because during this one fight scene, Hero left himself open and Flying Snow could totally have killed him but didn't and it would be totally apparent to everyone so it makes no sense.'

That is why good people don't rules-lawyer figures of speech and symbolism. It's nothing more than an attempt to look smarter than the artist, when in reality, it exposes an obliviousness to the artist's message itself.

Yeah, you kind of trailed off a bit there...

V for Vendetta wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Correct?

Guy Fawkes attempted to destroy a Protestant Parliament so that he could install an even more oppressive Catholic rule.

Are you with me so far?

V for Vendetta isn't about doing what you believe is right, it was about some dude destroying a fascist regime.

Unless it was done ironically, wearing a Fawkes mask is kind of a dumb move.

Kind of like wearing a Swastika and fighting for Jewish rights.

Yeah, that's right, Godwin's Law all up in this *****

History.

How does it fucking work?

Art isn't an infallible defence for pulling dumbshit moves.

Exactly. There's a difference between expecting historical events to 100% match the symbol and having the symbol represent the complete opposite of what actually happened.

 

[Daystar Clarion]

V for Vendetta, specifically V's outfit. I think he looks really cool, and I love the mask, but since it's become the symbol of Anonymous and the Occupy movement it'd be impossible to wear it as a costume.

There's reasons they use Guy Faulkes as iconry.

So they can overthrow a Protestant parliament in favour of setting up an even more oppressive Catholic rule?

Good to know.

See this?

This is why people hate fanboys. Because when you bring up a point that the Guy Faulkes mask has symbolism that they intend to invoke... some fanboy or nerd or whatever comes in and takes that symbol WAY TO LITERALLY and--usually unknowingly--turns it into a strawman, that all symbols must be taken exact and has specific meanings and CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THOSE MEANINGS.

There's two main reasons they use it, both of which are absolutely relative to what they are doing.

One) Guy Faulkes was someone who stood up for his beliefs against what he perceived as religious tyranny. That's WHY he was used as a symbol for V in V for Vendetta, because V was standing up against a religious tyranny. There's a reason why he had a celebrated holiday in Britain... the gunpowder plot isn't just 'zomg terrorism' but has other meanings that resonate through British history.

Two) It's also a symbol for Epic Fail Guy and reflects the sense of humor and admittance of futility within the movement itself.

Ugh.

Nerds!

Lol wut?

Knowing history and expecting symbols of history to be accurate to said history makes me a nerd?

Also, we don't have a holiday celebrating the Guy, just so you know.

Good to know!

Yes, expecting symbols to be 100% accurate to the historical event is pretty unreasonable. Because that is called 'literalism' and 'literalism' is kinda antithetical to 'symbolism' and 'metaphor.'

Look, if there's an analogy, pointing out where the analogy breaks down doesn't change the obvious intent of the message. It's kinda like complaining that calling a ship 'she' is inappropriate because ships don't have tits, or saying that 'I see five sails!' is inexact because it doesn't mention the rest of the ships, or all the sails could be on the same ship... and yet our wonderful language, art, and culture has, as part of its poetry and beauty, the ability to use anthroporphization and synechdoche and metonomy, and all sorts of figurative speech to describe with grand imagination and flourish the wonders of our universe.

And yet here you are, rules lawyering a METAPHOR.

Now imagine if you're watching... for sake of argument... a wire-fu movie like Hero. I love this movie. It is a gorgeous film, very intellegent, and every fight scene is coreographed not only to BE a wire-fu fight scene, but is also symbolic of the stories being told within its framing device. And yet, there's always this one nerd who says 'I hate this movie because during this one fight scene, Hero left himself open and Flying Snow could totally have killed him but didn't and it would be totally apparent to everyone so it makes no sense.'

That is why good people don't rules-lawyer figures of speech and symbolism. It's nothing more than an attempt to look smarter than the artist, when in reality, it exposes an obliviousness to the artist's message itself.

Yeah, you kind of trailed off a bit there...

V for Vendetta wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Correct?

Guy Fawkes attempted to destroy a Protestant Parliament so that he could install an even more oppressive Catholic rule.

Are you with me so far?

V for Vendetta isn't about doing what you believe is right, it was about some dude destroying a fascist regime.

Unless it was done ironically, wearing a Fawkes mask is kind of a dumb move.

Kind of like wearing a Swastika and fighting for Jewish rights.

Yeah, that's right, Godwin's Law all up in this *****

History.

How does it fucking work?

Art isn't an infallible defence for pulling dumbshit moves.

Exactly. There's a difference between expecting historical events to 100% match the symbol and having the symbol represent the complete opposite of what actually happened.

Exactly what I mean.

Wanna tweak something to fit the thing you're doing? Sure, go ahead.

Just, you know, don't go overboard and miss the entire point of the historical significance altogether.

 

[Grimh]

Hate the player, not the game.

That is all I have to say.

 

[DracoSuave]

V for Vendetta, specifically V's outfit. I think he looks really cool, and I love the mask, but since it's become the symbol of Anonymous and the Occupy movement it'd be impossible to wear it as a costume.

There's reasons they use Guy Faulkes as iconry.

So they can overthrow a Protestant parliament in favour of setting up an even more oppressive Catholic rule?

Good to know.

See this?

This is why people hate fanboys. Because when you bring up a point that the Guy Faulkes mask has symbolism that they intend to invoke... some fanboy or nerd or whatever comes in and takes that symbol WAY TO LITERALLY and--usually unknowingly--turns it into a strawman, that all symbols must be taken exact and has specific meanings and CANNOT DEVIATE FROM THOSE MEANINGS.

There's two main reasons they use it, both of which are absolutely relative to what they are doing.

One) Guy Faulkes was someone who stood up for his beliefs against what he perceived as religious tyranny. That's WHY he was used as a symbol for V in V for Vendetta, because V was standing up against a religious tyranny. There's a reason why he had a celebrated holiday in Britain... the gunpowder plot isn't just 'zomg terrorism' but has other meanings that resonate through British history.

Two) It's also a symbol for Epic Fail Guy and reflects the sense of humor and admittance of futility within the movement itself.

Ugh.

Nerds!

Lol wut?

Knowing history and expecting symbols of history to be accurate to said history makes me a nerd?

Also, we don't have a holiday celebrating the Guy, just so you know.

Good to know!

Yes, expecting symbols to be 100% accurate to the historical event is pretty unreasonable. Because that is called 'literalism' and 'literalism' is kinda antithetical to 'symbolism' and 'metaphor.'

Look, if there's an analogy, pointing out where the analogy breaks down doesn't change the obvious intent of the message. It's kinda like complaining that calling a ship 'she' is inappropriate because ships don't have tits, or saying that 'I see five sails!' is inexact because it doesn't mention the rest of the ships, or all the sails could be on the same ship... and yet our wonderful language, art, and culture has, as part of its poetry and beauty, the ability to use anthroporphization and synechdoche and metonomy, and all sorts of figurative speech to describe with grand imagination and flourish the wonders of our universe.

And yet here you are, rules lawyering a METAPHOR.

Now imagine if you're watching... for sake of argument... a wire-fu movie like Hero. I love this movie. It is a gorgeous film, very intellegent, and every fight scene is coreographed not only to BE a wire-fu fight scene, but is also symbolic of the stories being told within its framing device. And yet, there's always this one nerd who says 'I hate this movie because during this one fight scene, Hero left himself open and Flying Snow could totally have killed him but didn't and it would be totally apparent to everyone so it makes no sense.'

That is why good people don't rules-lawyer figures of speech and symbolism. It's nothing more than an attempt to look smarter than the artist, when in reality, it exposes an obliviousness to the artist's message itself.

Yeah, you kind of trailed off a bit there...

V for Vendetta wears a Guy Fawkes mask?

Correct?

Guy Fawkes attempted to destroy a Protestant Parliament so that he could install an even more oppressive Catholic rule.

Are you with me so far?

V for Vendetta isn't about doing what you believe is right, it was about some dude destroying a fascist regime.

Unless it was done ironically, wearing a Fawkes mask is kind of a dumb move.

Kind of like wearing a Swastika and fighting for Jewish rights.

Yeah, that's right, Godwin's Law all up in this *****

History.

How does it fucking work?

Art isn't an infallible defence for pulling dumbshit moves.

First: It's Anglicanism vs Catholicism, which is an important distinction because Anglicanism isn't technically a Protestant sect--it wasn't formed to protest the church, but rather to centralize the English monarchy as the head of the church as opposed to the pope. While reformed protestantism has introduced some ideas into the Church of England, it's still not a Protestant church, any more than Orthodoxism could be called a form of Catholicism. IT's more correct to call it a hybrid, or its own separate category of Anglicanism. It was called the Protestant Episcopal Church at the time, however, so the term is not inappropriate.

Second: The Gunpowder Plot was in 1605... this was very fresh after Queen Elizabeth I's political warfare with the Papacy. QEI was putting people to death for converting to Catholicism under 'seditious pretenses' There was a HUGE rift between the Church of Rome and England, and one that didn't go away when QEI had Mary, Queen of Scots beheaded, because the Catholics favored MQS over QEI. Mary's successor, King James, ended up taking England because Elizabeth had no heirs, ending the Tudor line entirely. Which meant that the king was now a Stuart--the line favored by the Papacy!

In other words, the Catholics had reasons to be miffed because of VERY recent blood spilled, but they'd actually already 'won' the matter of succession!

So to say that Faulkes was trying to install a more oppressive Catholic regime is very simplistic... not to mention it was an attack on the heir to the monarch FAVORED by the Catholics--the Stuart line.

(also, this is before the Magna Carta, so the parliament wasn't the seat of power at the time)

 

[Oly J]

we all have that thing we like, but don't like talking about, because of the other fans of the thing in question, it can be a specific game, or movie, or general interest

EDIT: I ptobably worded this wrong, the fans haven't at all skewed my opinion of the passtime in question but they do make it kind of embarassing to talk about that's all I meant...also I know a lot of you say you don't let fans get to you, but as I said, everyone has one thing, NOBODY is immune to fanbarrasment

for me it's professional wrestling, I love it, in spite of its flaws I just find watching some pro-wrestling to be a great way to unwind (on the whole)

however (WARNING: rant impending) I F**KING HATE wrestling fans... I won't go into too much detail, but there seem to be 2 types of wrestling fan (by the way I'm strictly speaking adults here and to save time I'm just going to rant about WWE fans rather than wrestling fans as a whole)

1. the wrestling fanboy/girl

if you've ever watched WWE. you know that wrestling companies present wrestlers in certain ways and has them act in such a way as to provoke a specific desired reaction from the fans, the mark will react EXACTLY as they are "supposed to" and like everything the show tells them to like and hate everything they're supposed to hate, to use another example, did you ever know someone who found Jar Jar binks funny? or thought "Green Lantern" was "really good" just because the Green Lantern was in it? these are the same types of people, now I'm all for someone's opinion differing from mine, I like a nice debate about certain things but...I don't know somehow this is different, I'm pretty sure these people still don't realise pro-wrestling is a work (remember I'm strictly talking adult wrestling fans here)

2: the "smart" wrestling fan

I have more in common with these folks, wrestling fans who like wrestling in spite, or perhaps because of it's staged nature, now that's all well and good, (and to be fair a lot of them are all right) but there are those among them (basically the only ones I encounter) who just annoy me beyond beleif

basically remember the reaction to "Duke Nukem Forever"? imagine someone reacting that way to EVERYTHING! basically a cynical asshole who barely even mentions the parts of any show that he/she likes and if one thing goes in a way they don't agree with then suddenly the whole thing was a waste of time regardless of how good everything else might have been,

to summarise


basically every single wrestling fan I know is either a complete fanboy who likes everything they're "supposed to" like or a cynical asshole that just complains all the time and refuses to like anything with NO MIDDLE GROUND!

I myself, like some of what I see, not all of it, I don't tend to waste effort getting angry about most of the stuff I don't agree with.

so yeah, what do you like but don't like to admit it because of the fans?

I get exactly what you're saying, wrestling fans always find something to complain about, CM Punk beats Cena at Money In The Bank, they complain. THE ROCK returns, they complain. Rock beats Cena, they complain. Daniel Bryan wins the World Heavyweight Championship, they complain. We get BROCK FREAKING LESNAR against Triple H at Summerslam, they complain. I just can't believe how much they hate it, and don't get me started on what some of them say about TNA. Personally I prefer TNA to WWE, but both WWE fanboys and TNA fanboys try to bring down the other promotion in any way possible. It's like the feed on hatred and cynicism.

personally I prefer WWE right at this moment, TNA is kinda just there, don't hate it or anything, but there are no Machine Guns anymore, which is a considerable blow I think, plus the X division isn't getting the attention it deserves, I love their matches, plus the knockouts are, or at least were, a great example of women's wrestling, TNA has so much going for it I don't see why people complain so much when we've got Austin Ares as the champion now, hell I even liked Bobby Roode,

by the way, how old does the last post in a thread have to be before posting is considered necroing?

 

[Andy of Comix Inc]

Oh I definitely agree, one of NGE's many themes is sexuality and that is exactly why I find it annoying when someone draws up a half-naked picture of Rei in bed with Shinji. I'm sure I'll get over it though, it's rather petty.

Oh you're only on to half-naked?

...you might want to take that last sentence back. You haven't even seen the worst of it yet.

 

[Nouw]

Oh I definitely agree, one of NGE's many themes is sexuality and that is exactly why I find it annoying when someone draws up a half-naked picture of Rei in bed with Shinji. I'm sure I'll get over it though, it's rather petty.

Oh you're only on to half-naked?

...you might want to take that last sentence back. You haven't even seen the worst of it yet.

It was only an example >.>.

 

[Phasmal]

Knowing history and expecting symbols of history to be accurate to said history makes me a nerd?

Also, we don't have a holiday celebrating the Guy, just so you know.

Good to know!

I thought there was no better way to celebrate anyone than by burning them!

OT: Anime. Too many weird dudes about.