Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
Also that too.ToastiestZombie said:Sequels to already-finished series
I really want the publishers of popular things to stop making direct sequels after the story has finished! I find that any sort of sequel after the definitive end of the story started in the first part is just milking the franchise for it's money. This only really goes for story-driven game series with one over-arching plot when it comes to games, but for every book and movie it counts.
The two biggest offenders are Star Wars and Halo, both series with endings that wrapped up pretty much every plot-point. They didn't need sequels, and each sequel that comes after the ending of Star Wars VI and Halo 3 will water down the overall story. I don't mind prequels, spin-offs and side-stories after the last game has been released, stuff like Metal Gear Rising, MGSV and Halo 3: ODST; but things that are shown as the "next" in the series that are chronologically after the last game are terrible to me. If you're going to have a new set of characters with only small references to previous entries, make it a spin-off series instead of numbering it.
You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
You know what I mean. It's that type of animation that moves like cardboard cut-outs instead of something that was drawn by hand. My Little Pony, It's a Kind of Magic, stuff like that. The only show that makes it work is South Park, and that's because the aesthetic makes it impossible for the show to work in any other form of animation without totally falling apart.aba1 said:You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
I just call that tween based animation myself since it lacks any FBF to give any sense of depth.Casual Shinji said:You know what I mean. It's that type of animation that moves like cardboard cut-outs instead of something that was drawn by hand. My Little Pony, It's a Kind of Magic, stuff like that. The only show that makes it work is South Park, and that's because the aesthetic makes it impossible for the show to work in any other form of animation without totally falling apart.aba1 said:You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
Uh, you do realize that Khan was originally played by a Mexican dude, right? Specifically, a baby oil-coated Ricardo Montalbán. And wasn't Khan sort of a genetically-engineered thing, not any particular race?thaluikhain said:The sequel thing, yeah.
Oh, adaptations/remakes where they make characters white for no reason. Hollywood is already overly white as it is, but when you have (for example), the next Star Trek movie having Benedict Cumberbach as Khan Noonien Singh...no. Really, really no. If you're going to change the ethnicity of the person playing him, get a Sikh to play the Sikh.
I had to look up that definition there, but yeah, that's what I mean. I want frame-by-frame animation, not drawings that get morphed and stretched.aba1 said:I just call that tween based animation myself since it lacks any FBF to give any sense of depth.Casual Shinji said:You know what I mean. It's that type of animation that moves like cardboard cut-outs instead of something that was drawn by hand. My Little Pony, It's a Kind of Magic, stuff like that. The only show that makes it work is South Park, and that's because the aesthetic makes it impossible for the show to work in any other form of animation without totally falling apart.aba1 said:You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
Ahh ya sorry bout that I should have been clearer but yes I agree frame br frame animation looks soooooo much better. I am not going to lie I have eyes glued to the screen over frame by frame animation before going homfg looks at that beauty. Fantasia is orgasmic to me (maybe I should have toned that down but you get the idea).Casual Shinji said:I had to look up that definition there, but yeah, that's what I mean. I want frame-by-frame animation, not drawings that get morphed and stretched.aba1 said:I just call that tween based animation myself since it lacks any FBF to give any sense of depth.Casual Shinji said:You know what I mean. It's that type of animation that moves like cardboard cut-outs instead of something that was drawn by hand. My Little Pony, It's a Kind of Magic, stuff like that. The only show that makes it work is South Park, and that's because the aesthetic makes it impossible for the show to work in any other form of animation without totally falling apart.aba1 said:You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
Yeah, I know what you mean. I still stand amazed by that scene in Night on With Mountain when you see that close up of the Devil's hand gesturing. Same with the Monstro sequence from Pinocchio. Animation was so unrestrained back then.aba1 said:Ahh ya sorry bout that I should have been clearer but yes I agree frame br frame animation looks soooooo much better. I am not going to lie I have eyes glued to the screen over frame by frame animation before going homfg looks at that beauty. Fantasia is orgasmic to me (maybe I should have toned that down but you get the idea).Casual Shinji said:I had to look up that definition there, but yeah, that's what I mean. I want frame-by-frame animation, not drawings that get morphed and stretched.aba1 said:I just call that tween based animation myself since it lacks any FBF to give any sense of depth.Casual Shinji said:You know what I mean. It's that type of animation that moves like cardboard cut-outs instead of something that was drawn by hand. My Little Pony, It's a Kind of Magic, stuff like that. The only show that makes it work is South Park, and that's because the aesthetic makes it impossible for the show to work in any other form of animation without totally falling apart.aba1 said:You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
The night on bald mountain (pritty sure that is the wrong name) used to terrify me as a child but ya they really just don't do it like they used to. Have you ever watched the golden age animation it destroys my mind. Watching Superman is insane my eyes lose the ability to blink it is so beautiful.Casual Shinji said:Yeah, I know what you mean. I still stand amazed by that scene in Night on With Mountain when you see that close up of the Devil's hand gesturing. Same with the Monstro sequence from Pinocchio. Animation was so unrestrained back then.aba1 said:Ahh ya sorry bout that I should have been clearer but yes I agree frame br frame animation looks soooooo much better. I am not going to lie I have eyes glued to the screen over frame by frame animation before going homfg looks at that beauty. Fantasia is orgasmic to me (maybe I should have toned that down but you get the idea).Casual Shinji said:I had to look up that definition there, but yeah, that's what I mean. I want frame-by-frame animation, not drawings that get morphed and stretched.aba1 said:I just call that tween based animation myself since it lacks any FBF to give any sense of depth.Casual Shinji said:You know what I mean. It's that type of animation that moves like cardboard cut-outs instead of something that was drawn by hand. My Little Pony, It's a Kind of Magic, stuff like that. The only show that makes it work is South Park, and that's because the aesthetic makes it impossible for the show to work in any other form of animation without totally falling apart.aba1 said:You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
Yep, those were the times before they realized animation was expensive as hell to produce, and no corners were yet cut.aba1 said:The night on bald mountain (pritty sure that is the wrong name) used to terrify me as a child but ya they really just don't do it like they used to. Have you ever watched the golden age animation it destroys my mind. Watching Superman is insane my eyes lose the ability to blink it is so beautiful.Casual Shinji said:Yeah, I know what you mean. I still stand amazed by that scene in Night on With Mountain when you see that close up of the Devil's hand gesturing. Same with the Monstro sequence from Pinocchio. Animation was so unrestrained back then.aba1 said:Ahh ya sorry bout that I should have been clearer but yes I agree frame br frame animation looks soooooo much better. I am not going to lie I have eyes glued to the screen over frame by frame animation before going homfg looks at that beauty. Fantasia is orgasmic to me (maybe I should have toned that down but you get the idea).Casual Shinji said:I had to look up that definition there, but yeah, that's what I mean. I want frame-by-frame animation, not drawings that get morphed and stretched.aba1 said:I just call that tween based animation myself since it lacks any FBF to give any sense of depth.Casual Shinji said:You know what I mean. It's that type of animation that moves like cardboard cut-outs instead of something that was drawn by hand. My Little Pony, It's a Kind of Magic, stuff like that. The only show that makes it work is South Park, and that's because the aesthetic makes it impossible for the show to work in any other form of animation without totally falling apart.aba1 said:You know just about all 2d animation is done using flash in games, tv and, movies now even if it isn't flash it is Toonboom which is essentially the same and looks the same. If a cartoon looks flat it has to do with budgets not the program. I know I have been using flash for nearly a decade . To be honest I am tired of everything moving more and more into 3d animation I find it so bland and the movements always feel the same no matter what the movie or show. You get so much more stylistic options with 2d but everyone blows it off cause 3d is easier.Casual Shinji said:Stop using flash animation for cartoons. Seriously, you couldn't make your show look more cheap and flat if you tried.
Yes, that's why I said they should get a Sikh if they were going to change it. Because he's stated to be a Sikh.Ravinoff said:Uh, you do realize that Khan was originally played by a Mexican dude, right? Specifically, a baby oil-coated Ricardo Montalbán. And wasn't Khan sort of a genetically-engineered thing, not any particular race?thaluikhain said:The sequel thing, yeah.
Oh, adaptations/remakes where they make characters white for no reason. Hollywood is already overly white as it is, but when you have (for example), the next Star Trek movie having Benedict Cumberbach as Khan Noonien Singh...no. Really, really no. If you're going to change the ethnicity of the person playing him, get a Sikh to play the Sikh.