Third-Hand Smoking: Serious Health-Risk or Activists Taking It Too Far?

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razer17

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my reply "le fuck?"
but really, that is one of the stupidest pieces of "evidence" i have ever heard of.
3rd hand smoke, what a ridiculous idea. and what could they do about it? if you smoke you must do it outside, then strip naked, have a shower, change clothes and brush your teeth before you come into contact with other people or animals?
yes 2nd hand smoke has a health risk for people, but 3rd hand? no. get out for suggesting it CBC
 

twistedshadows

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I had to dog sit for a friend of mine who is a smoker for two days. I ended up getting really sick (major headache, difficulty breathing) just from being in the house. When I came home my clothes, pillow and body smelled like I had been sitting in a bar for two days straight. I made my friend smell my clothes to see if it was just me, and apparently it wasn't as she said they smelled strongly of cigarette smoke.

So yeah, I believe it exists and can be a threat to some people.
I'm not sure that it would affect everyone, and I highly doubt it can be controlled.
 

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lacktheknack said:
An athsmatic speaking:

If I smell any cigarette smoke AT ALL, even on clothes, my lungs fill with mucous to wash it out, and I can't breathe.

So it's an issue to me, yes.
Maybe that's you, but my best friend is heavily athsmatic and he is actually against the smoking ban because he thinks it makes pubs smell better. No he doesn't smoke.
 

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Its a relational threat at worst. Someone who always smells of smoke isn't exactly going to have the biggest non-smoking group of "hang out" friends.
 

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Terminalchaos said:
Khell_Sennet said:
lacktheknack said:
An athsmatic speaking:

If I smell any cigarette smoke AT ALL, even on clothes, my lungs fill with mucous to wash it out, and I can't breathe.

So it's an issue to me, yes.
As a fellow asthma sufferer, I agree.

Basically, if I'm around someone who WAS smoking, I suffer an asthma attack. It can be light, to the point I just suffer a few minutes and I'm good, or it can be to the point where I need my inhaler.

If I'm around someone who is CURRENTLY smoking, it's a severe attack which guarantees I need my inhaler, and could send me to the ER if exposed long enough.

And if I were to actually smoke, we skip the ER and I go straight to the morgue.

So third degree smoke isn't the worst thing, but it still has an effect. And I am inclined to punch anyone who causes me an asthma attack because of a sick fucking addiction they should have outright banned long ago.
You are a bit judgmental. People have the right to smoke and it isn't a sick addiction - at least anymore than any other addiction people have. I get sick from cars, factories, barbeques and burning leaves -should I punch all those transgressors? I see much of our pollution as a sick fucking addiction if that's how you phrase smoking. Seeing your rant makes me want to light up and I don't even smoke.

Bans are a violation of our civil rights- we have the right to smoke, drink, eat poorly, and party. If you drive and ***** about smoking you're a hypocrite (unless you drive a full electric car from a region that gets power from hydroelectric, wind, or another airsafe method of electricity generation.)
Cars are a useful and extremely important mode of transport for millions of people (even if at present they are significant polluters).

Cigarettes are are a smokable tobacco based product used by millions that outside some very specific situations, provide no benefit to their users. (Unless you want to consider the positive physiological aspects a benefit, then again, why cigarettes of all things?)

As for the bans...I don't really agree with that either, however, as a non-smoker, forgive if I'm not all that choked up about it. (Badumpish!)

And on third hand smoke...well, my father smokes a lot, and, once, when staying at his home, I discovered the effects of the residue left everywhere: Went to bed, ashes all over the covers in the spare room, shook it off, meh, fine, went to sleep. When I woke up the next morning....IT FELT LIKE A GOD-DAMN GIANT HAND WAS CRUSHING ONE OF MY LUNGS. So yes...it did have an effect.
 

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Dude...just dude...They interviewed people on whether or not they thought it was dangerous, these people having no real experience or knowledge on the topic. Oy...

I think this "thrid hand smoke" is more gross than dangerous to be honest. Yes I realize it causes complications for people with asthma. It IS noticeable, I'm not asthmatic but I do choke up a little in smokers' homes even if they're not smoking, but I don't think it's the incredibly dangerous baby-killing hidden house devil the article makes it out to be. I don't encourage smoking but I do think this is going a bit overboard.

...there's fukkin Polonium in cigarettes? So, could someone in theory make a cigarette-bomb that would generate both radioactive and second-hand smoke fallout?
 

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Okay, what? As if the shock pictures weren't enough. It must be really hard to be a smoker. Not only is it bad for you, but just the fucking scent can do harm to someone. And can you imagine the "concerned" friends?
Also, polls are not evidence. If it was, we'd have proof that God is real. Don't be stupid CBC.
 

shadowstriker86

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activists always take it too far, and this is no exception. its a freedom of choice to smoke or to be around smokers, but its always about absolute control with these people. personally i dont smoke but i go to school where literally people are just trying to piss me off by doing all these anti-smoking marches and announcements. i am so glad im moving to japan in a year so i wont have to listen to this crap
 

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Kukul said:
sizzle949 said:
Yes... that's the great research, I'm not joking. They polled average Americans and used that as evidence. .
I don't know if I should laugh or cry.
Cry...cry very deeply, and then have a good laugh about it.

I suffer from severe asthma, and come from a family of heavy smokers...it's a miserable existence but I'm still here...14 years runnin'.
 

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lacktheknack said:
An athsmatic speaking:

If I smell any cigarette smoke AT ALL, even on clothes, my lungs fill with mucous to wash it out, and I can't breathe.

So it's an issue to me, yes.
interesting point.

on a side note, my brother is asthmatic as well, and he smokes about a pack a day. doesn't seem to bother him; pets are more of an issue than cigarette smoke. to each their own, i guess.

i smoke, too, just not cigarettes ;) and i'm glad i quit the damn things
 

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Terminalchaos said:
Khell_Sennet said:
lacktheknack said:
An athsmatic speaking:

If I smell any cigarette smoke AT ALL, even on clothes, my lungs fill with mucous to wash it out, and I can't breathe.

So it's an issue to me, yes.
As a fellow asthma sufferer, I agree.

Basically, if I'm around someone who WAS smoking, I suffer an asthma attack. It can be light, to the point I just suffer a few minutes and I'm good, or it can be to the point where I need my inhaler.

If I'm around someone who is CURRENTLY smoking, it's a severe attack which guarantees I need my inhaler, and could send me to the ER if exposed long enough.

And if I were to actually smoke, we skip the ER and I go straight to the morgue.

So third degree smoke isn't the worst thing, but it still has an effect. And I am inclined to punch anyone who causes me an asthma attack because of a sick fucking addiction they should have outright banned long ago.
You are a bit judgmental. People have the right to smoke and it isn't a sick addiction - at least anymore than any other addiction people have. I get sick from cars, factories, barbeques and burning leaves -should I punch all those transgressors? I see much of our pollution as a sick fucking addiction if that's how you phrase smoking. Seeing your rant makes me want to light up and I don't even smoke.

Bans are a violation of our civil rights- we have the right to smoke, drink, eat poorly, and party. If you drive and ***** about smoking you're a hypocrite (unless you drive a full electric car from a region that gets power from hydroelectric, wind, or another airsafe method of electricity generation.)
your an idoit

ok now that we got that out of the way heres why:

1 how is it not a sick addiction? it gives you cancer,heart disease, fucks up your lungs, and makes a number of phyiscal changes (like yellow teeth wrinkles) and for what? not a reason in the world thats what
2 it gives not only yourself these things but it gives others them
3 no where in the constitution does it say anything about smoking and were is founded today it would be banned
4 your arguements are invalid because (for example) in resturants smoking makes their work environment unsafe
to put this into a metaphor: a resturant starts filtering carbon monoxide into the resturant for no reason at all, while it may not hurt the employees directly they will experence health defects
that is one of the best metaphors ive used in this debate hm.....wait a second this seems to be what smoking does.......
5 the difference is people dont get cancer from driving cars and cars sure as hell dont increase peoples chances of being cancer that are around them again your arguement is invalid because cigerattes are unliked not because of air pollution but because of the health risk
6 if someone could invent a cheap affordable solar powered car then people would use it BUT offer a cigeratte patch, gum, injection, or whatever they will not use it dont try to deny that because their is all those things (minus the injection part to the best of my knowledge

grow up
 

Dr.Sean

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Third hand smoke is the stink of smokers on people/places/things. It is little more than an annoyance.
 

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Terminalchaos said:
lacktheknack said:
An athsmatic speaking:

If I smell any cigarette smoke AT ALL, even on clothes, my lungs fill with mucous to wash it out, and I can't breathe.

So it's an issue to me, yes.
I get bad reactions from car exhaust and cities with bad air (also asthma) shouldn't I have just as much right to complain about those irritants? Smoking should stay legal and this seems like a thinly veiled attempt to revoke its legality.
no ones talking about making smoking illegal
 

dmase

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I wonder how they might enforce a third hand smoking ban?

No shoes, no shirt, no pants... perfectly fine if your a smoker