Indeed.Faladorian said:I agree. And it's not even in the name of God anymore (which, by the way, is not justified) it's in the name of publicity and baiting lawsuits. Reading the .pdf with poor grammar and out-of-context quotes was pretty funny.AccursedTheory said:They real life troll funerals.crudus said:I actually like to encourage them. I have always viewed it as a taunt or dare of sorts. Sort of like *read in a 1980's sitcom narrator's voice* "Uh-oh! The Westboro Baptist Church has lost its attention from its controversial statement of 'God Hates Fags'. What are they going to come up with next?! Tune in next week to find out". Naturally that is slightly exaggerated. WBC is a creative group of people who knows how to get media attention. It is just fun to see what controversial thing they will say next. I don't know anyone who listens to them so I don't see how they really impact anything.Toriver said:Another thing I find really interesting is that this flier shows that the WBC is fully aware of the coverage it gets in the media, and of the nature of that coverage. Which makes me repeat that, if you want the WBC to go away, stop showing what they do so much in the media! This is a perfect example of, "Ignore them and they go away." Really, the more exposure they get, the more they will feel galvanized to do more and more.
I don't care if it was the funeral of a serial pedophile rapist/killer, there's a point when you have to step back and say 'Fuck, the guys dead already.'
While I agree WBC has a right to free speech, but fucking funerals? I know a lot of people here don't believe in the sanctity of anything, but shit...
It kinda reminds me of in middle school if someone would pick on the crazy kid and he would be like "I'M GONNA GET SUPERMAN TO BEAT YOU UP! YOU'D BETTER NOT!!"
Now, I'm not directly comparing the Christian God to Superman (although, they both are sort of all-powerful fix-it guys) but the way that WBC uses it is not as a deity or as a way of life, it's just used for blind threats. They also reinforce the stereotype that religious zealotry increases inversely with their intelligence. Al'Qaeda is probably not the smartest group of people. Sure, they are technology- and stealth-mission-smart, but they're sure as hell not very analytical about their own belief system.
This is my main problem with religion. It's not that someone believes in what they believe in, it's that they make all of their actions reflect it perfectly even though it's an imperfect belief system (hence why "faith" is needed).
If you believe in God, fine. I'm okay with that. Tell me that my life is worthless because I don't believe on your god, and we're gonna have a problem. I have a problem with Westboro for that same reason. However, their intelligence is at such a low level that it almost makes it funny. Like when the tiny kid with no muscle challenges big football guy to a fight. All you can do is laugh.
With regards to their coaxing of Anon... they'll learn their lesson lol
Off-Topic: @AccursedTheory I believe I just recently talked to you about Lutheranism and such. Hello again ^^
Yeah so I wasn't the only one who picked up on the odd language they used then?crudus said:"This can only end hilariously" is I think what you meant.
riiiiiight.No weapon formed against us will prosper
I was hoping this would be in here, because I am pretty sure this letter was sent from someone from anon who hacked into Westboro to send this letter to anon.God Hates fags and lousy "Hackers"
Ah the irony, if they came up to new England again - I will now totally show up and disrupt them somehow. A philosophical debate about the bible might be as well, I would rip them a new one in just that department like I do with Jehovah witnesses who preach/rant/rave/harass people just outside my college campus.Witty Name Here said:I can keep going on about this to, there's a ton of verses in the bible where Jesus says things along the lines of that and... Pretty much no verses where Jesus says, "All Jews/Fags/Everyone will go to hell!!!" The ESPECIALLY funny thing about Westboro Baptist Church and their "God Hates Jews and Fags" slogan is that most of the "Being Gay=Bad" and all that stuff about God being angry comes from the old testament... Which comes from the Torah, the Jewish holy text... >.>
Then you my friend do not even know what I am talking about. I'm calling Anon hypocritical. They preach free speech, but then plan to turn around and take it from someone else. They hated it when the FBI attacked them after ignoring them for so long, so now they're turning around and doing it to the them. They troll everyone, but now they're getting mad at trolls.Novs said:Taking Anon seriously. Lulz.maddawg IAJI said:They attacked several sites for their denial of service to Wikileaks. They protested several governments about their lack of free speech. They fucking hacked a guy's twitter account and stole his private info because he was trying to bring down wikileaks. It isn't one letter, its everything they've been doing for the last year.
Oh so you think whatever is legal is fine and right? Even morally?Just because we don't like it doesn't mean it isn't legal. If the government wished to, they could clamp down on the WBC and hinder their protests, but they choose not to. As long as they are within their rights, Anon would be doing what the FBI attempted to do to them.
Doesn't mean they don't have rights given to them. As I said before, the Government could pretty much destroy anything the WBC does if it wanted to by passing some simple legislation that would get by without much trouble, but they choose not to. As long as what they do is legal and is protected by their right to protest and their to speak, Anon shouldn't go anywhere near them.
So you go by whatever is legal is fine, and whatever is illegal is clearly wrong?
You go by with the thought that goverment makes the best descisions?
The law is everything????
This what your post pretty much says to me. Funny how much faith you have in the goverment to do whats right, when they are a bunch of squabbling, greedy cunts. How very naive and clueless.
Yeah, no. The most that would happen is they'd continually have to start new websites. They would continue their idiotic "protesting" and hate speech, regardless.Fiz_The_Toaster said:This is probably the only time I've ever supported Anon on anything, but this should be hilariously awesome! Maybe the WBC will finally shut the hell up and crawl back to whatever hole they came from.
I can only hope.
I know it won't happen, but it would be nice. I'm actually surprised that they decided to go after Anon, but maybe they can stop them for a bit so we don't have to hear from WBC for a while.Alar said:Yeah, no. The most that would happen is they'd continually have to start new websites. They would continue their idiotic "protesting" and hate speech, regardless.Fiz_The_Toaster said:This is probably the only time I've ever supported Anon on anything, but this should be hilariously awesome! Maybe the WBC will finally shut the hell up and crawl back to whatever hole they came from.
I can only hope.
It's nice to dream, but it won't happen. These bigots think they're acting on behest of their god, and nothing so simple will stop them. That's the power of religion: creating mindless zealots.
Because when those trolls are not only harassing, but bringing down the websites of businesses, hacking social media accounts and committing identity theft, then you take them seriously. They're beyond doing everything for 'the lulz' now. They are seriously starting to have a negative effect on people and in my honest opinion, Anon is just as bad as the WBC.Novs said:Dude your taking a message from a large amount of people who dont have a leader, dont have an organisation, and they are just known as people from /b/ a great deal of them are probably children and teenagers, or basement dwellers.. i wouldnt known, but they seem to have lots of time.maddawg IAJI said:Then you my friend do not even know what I am talking about. I'm calling Anon hypocritical. They preach free speech, but then plan to turn around and take it from someone else. They hated it when the FBI attacked them after ignoring them for so long, so now they're turning around and doing it to the them. They troll everyone, but now they're getting mad at trolls.Novs said:Taking Anon seriously. Lulz.maddawg IAJI said:They attacked several sites for their denial of service to Wikileaks. They protested several governments about their lack of free speech. They fucking hacked a guy's twitter account and stole his private info because he was trying to bring down wikileaks. It isn't one letter, its everything they've been doing for the last year.
Oh so you think whatever is legal is fine and right? Even morally?Just because we don't like it doesn't mean it isn't legal. If the government wished to, they could clamp down on the WBC and hinder their protests, but they choose not to. As long as they are within their rights, Anon would be doing what the FBI attempted to do to them.
Doesn't mean they don't have rights given to them. As I said before, the Government could pretty much destroy anything the WBC does if it wanted to by passing some simple legislation that would get by without much trouble, but they choose not to. As long as what they do is legal and is protected by their right to protest and their to speak, Anon shouldn't go anywhere near them.
So you go by whatever is legal is fine, and whatever is illegal is clearly wrong?
You go by with the thought that goverment makes the best descisions?
The law is everything????
This what your post pretty much says to me. Funny how much faith you have in the goverment to do whats right, when they are a bunch of squabbling, greedy cunts. How very naive and clueless.
This is a group of people for the last year have been attempting to preach the freedom of speech, but now they're turning around denying those same rights to others. I'll trust a government over a group of criminals who seem to go back on their own beliefs at the drop of a hat.
Anyways why would you take a bunch of trolls from the internet seriously?? It doesnt matter that their hypocritical, their just trolling and doing it for lulz.
You my friend, missed my first point in the previous post.