This "cod hate" is getting out of hand.

[harvz]

from what i see, every time the new CoD comes out, people hype it up and are constantly disappointed that it isnt as good as CoD4 (because they want an experience as good as CoD4 but dont want a rehash). the ones who defend it (particularly on youtube) are little kids who swear like they are unable to say 2 polite words in the same sentence without spontaneous combustion.

ill just be frank here, games designed to be released on a short schedule (im looking at you CoD and the upcoming halo's) seem to be designed to fail from a quality standpoint, each release just absorbing the remaining consumers funds that the previous one failed to draw in. such a tight schedule leaves problems for everyone.

 

[Windcaler]

I disagree with a lot of points the main one being the a successful franchise automatically equals good when good is a subjective opinion. Look at the string of Transformers movies to come out over the last few years, each one was considered a success but were they good? I certainly think not

Another issue that I heavily disagree with is the word hate. Many "COD haters" that Ive spoken with have a detailed opinion on why they dont like the games and what could be done better with them. I fall into that category myself but in these cases "hate" really means "disagrees with my opinion" and that sounds like the way your using it too, maybe Im wrong there

Being ex-military, I think the Call of duty series has a lot more that it could do but its moving away from semi-realistic military based shooter for more of a secret agent type feel. It started in Modern warefare 2 and only grew worse with black ops. Now dont get me wrong, if you want a secret agent style FPS then thats fine but thats not what CoD makes itself out to be in its marketing. So yes, I get a little annoyed with the story. Although my biggest complaint about the story of MW2 and Black ops was the shortness of them and how they were so unnecessarily padded out. Without padding both games could probably be completed during my lunch break. The second biggest problem is mostly for MW2 but the story relied on making Russian police and security officials look completely incompetant and I have a problem with that

Story aside, lets face it. The games are made for multiplayer. Thats it. My standard of a game is 8-10 hours minimum of single player and if it has multiplayer it must be balanced. That will earn it $60 from me but CoD is so focused on multiplayer that it seems to just have a single player thrown carelessly in and that makes it worth no more then $30 of my money. Arbitrary and subjective spending, I know but thats my opinion. You dont have to like or agree with it

Really, I dont know what the big deal is with defending CoD against criticism. If you like playing CoD then no amount of hate or criticism should get to you. You're having fun and thats all the proof you need for you to say the games good for you

 

[Tdc2182]

The cod hate is because most COD fans think they know everything about guns yet they know jack about them so they look like fools

I'm gonna stop you right there.

This is the new stupidest reason to hate Call of Duty.

also successful =/= good.

Yet, it also doesn't mean that it's bad. This is another very illogical point that people seem to bring up.

in reallity its one of the most sucessfull franchises thus a very good geame

In the same way Twilight was an incredible movie, correct? Success and quality are different things entirely. Anything can succeed under the right conditions, and anything can fail under the wrong ones. The idea is to try and make something passable for what you aim for. That's what the CoD games are: passable.

This is another rather poor argument.

Twilight is popular because it is very much a girl's love fantasy done exceptionally well. The material is designed for a certain audience. You are not in that certain demographic that it aims for, therefor nothing about it appeals to you.

To you, it's an idiotic tweenage girl vampire destroying terrible series (and ya know... you're right about that)

CoD does best at what it aims to do best. Make a very chaotic fast paced arcadey modern day shooter with an addicting perk and ranking system.

So yes, just because a series does well doesn't mean it's very good. But that doesn't exactly apply here.

CoD is maligned because nothing has changed since Cod4. NOTHING. Same gameplay, same multiplayer, same general map design, very similar campaigns, and no change in engine.

Don't fix what aint broken? (but... ya know, do fix the balance issues and stuff)

Call of Duty has the most flawless engine in the console shooter market. It is the best at what it does. Not to mention that the engine has taken some pretty hefty makeovers from Call of Duty 4 to Modern Warfare 2.

The perk system took off from where it previously started in CoD4 with the arrival of Pro perks. New gun management with a new secondary system added made the game much more open for combinations of tactics.

Also, what current game series has taken a big enough overhaul to actually warrant a complaint like this? A whole redesigned campaign? Groundbreaking map design that isn't similar to any of the others in it's series?

Halo? It took almost 4 years for a new game to come out, and the only thing that really changed from the previous one was it now having the ability to run on 720p.

Battlefield? Sure, a new engine. Because the old one would now be considered unplayable in this modern market.

Now make no mistake people. I'm not trying to defend the game series. I just want to take the opportunity to quash these ridiculous arguments that I keep seeing pop up everywhere.

OT: I actually thought the CoD hate was slowly dying down. It's much less sporadic then usual.

But I do have to say, Modern Warfare 3 looks exactly the same as MW2. I don't think the game was being taken as seriously this time around.

 

[Megacherv]

1)its because CoD as been around for AGES! and its been done TO DEATH and nothing is being done to try and revamp it or play out in different and interesting ways.


2)yes cause they werent done very well and it felt very poorly made...



3)cause that was what Doom was,Doom 2 was expanded upon by bringing higher difficulty some new monsters and some new toys to play with. Doom 3 was a failure cause it was trying too hard to be scary and they focused on "scary" and cheap tricks that got boring and soon became too easy to spot to the point you say "oh look a long corridor with nothing at the end of it,but something will crawl out of a grate somewhere and sneak up behind me... *walks backwards down corridor sees materializing monster...shoots it,its dead*



4)there are only 2 stalker games i believe,so not much will change yes. but once again you went somewhere NEW and wasnt doing the same objective as last time,plus you got new toys to play with (how you do that with a prequel i dont know xD) and i just acknowledged that some of those problems exist but your unfairly comparing them.



5) Battlefield is what it is,a online arena team type army game.you cant change too much or you'll alienate your audience too much.this is in the same boat as MMO's if you change too much your gonna lose alot of your ONLINE fanbase. and Battlefield has what,4-5 games? and 3 of them and MUCH different from each other? and lets not forget that their not releasing a new battlefield EVERY 6-8 MONTHS! (or so)

so its not really biased at all,it sounds more like your being a fanboy over this game and you cant hold it in anymore...

1)5) so has battlefield, yet people still enjoy it and as you said why change the formula? Same with cod. Also Cod does not come out in 6-8 months, back then when battlefield was a pc game, there released exapnsions constantly, saldy things have changed and on consoles you most likely to make a new product to sell rather and expansion. Thats what cod is doing.


2) fair enought but...

3)4)How can you say taht doom 2 and the 3 stalker games "expanded" there was not much new, one new weapon and a bunch of new monsters in doom and in stalker they used the same maps from the first game in clear sky and added a bunch of pistols and a machinegun while in call of pripyat they added ONLY an automatic shotgun and new monsters that were already in the files of the first game but locked and could be unlocked by mods.


I dont see how the thing i pointed do not prove that doom 2 and stalker series are more recycled than cod with fewer new additions. How can you say taht stalker had "new toys to play with" and cod had not? Thats a total unfrair comparison right there since both of them lack the same things.

Dont you think?

Are you honestly using Doom 2 as an example of other games being re-hashed? It's Doom-fucking-2! You couldn't update it that much, you couldn't jump, have layered floors and ceilings, nor could you look up or down. Why not go the whole hog and say that the original MegaMan series was also a bane of gaming's existence...

CoD is a franchise that despite the tools and frankly stoooooopid amount of money that they have earned from releasing the highest-grossing game ever and THEN breaking their own record the year after: the games are re-hashed, multiplayer-based, have stupidly short and frankly fucking stupid campaigns (after CoD 4) and there is absolutely no fucking excuse for it.

Defending CoD is a losing battle, the proof is in the pudding. CoD is a franchise full of potential but filled far more with boring stodgy constant-gunfire-from-all-directions-tedium that was ripped out from last year's game, and the fact that it's so successful is doing wonders to the downfall of gaming and our culture.

 

[colourcodedchaos]

Calling CoD a good game is silly. It's a fantastic business model, sure, because there's a boatload of rednecks out there who like firing automatic weapons at them thar dirty furraners, but very rarely are the games interesting in single player. In the WWII-era games, it's the same damn story rehashed over and over again. If you want good wartime stories, watch some Powell & Pressburger films, in particular Ill Met By Moonlight. In the Modern era, with the exception of MW1 (which really is a case of the exception proving the rule as far as I'm concerned) the stories just come off as formulaic low-grade action movie twatbatter. Besides, as we all know from Yahtzee beating this drum all the time, games cannot standup on multiplayer, because that has a shedload of problems, not least of which is the fact that you're playing against the kind of hyperactive, borderline-psychotic, xenophobic twelve-year-olds and fratboy rot-raddled albatross quims that make up CoD's core demographic.

Fantastic business model, yes. License to print money, yes.

Good game? Hell. No.

 

[MacJack]

[long post

You make a very good argument, well done.

While most other franchises certainly offer more of the same, they usually have enough difference to mark it as a satisfactory continuation of the series. But the strange thing is, you CAN have better graphics on a current gen console.

Juxtapose the graphics between CoD 4 and Black Ops - there is a slight difference. BLOPs has a slight improvement in graphics quality, but it's several years newer than CoD 4.

To be honest i dont think cod has any more/less than those games. Depends on what features you think are imporant or enough to be satisfactory. Also in the last 2 years, i dont see any improvment on graphics, i think consoles have reached their capabilities.

First of all yes, I'm quite sure. I was a large fan of the series. Second, you just defended the fan approval of the series, by means of it's number of sequels. By that logic, no one here complaining about COD repetitiveness is a fan, because it has a bunch of sequels.

Ill put it this way, i loved half life but i hated half life 2, for me its what doom 3 is to doom 1 and 2, an unwecome change or what blood 2 is to blood 1.

However half life fans actually enjoyed it to a point that is considered better and more sucessfull than the first game. While i dissagree, i dont make it a fact and just because i said it, it doesnt mean the rest of hl fans feel that way. Same thing with tomb raider series.

 

[Gokuofuin]

Another comment: Anyone that says they truly "hate" a game is an idiot. Sure, you can dislike it. It doesn't have to be your 'cup of tea'. You can not want to deal with annoying players, and say that a majority of them are pains in the ass. But saying you actually HATE it? Now that just seems silly.

I agree, you make a good point stating that no one can actually HATE a game, you can only dislike it. At most you mite not want to hear about it, but hating it is a bit to strong of a word.

 

[Vibhor]

Seriously i can browse the internet without seeing so many people spam about it everyhwere even in non cod related videos/articles and if you say something negative about the game they are like "go play cod" like its some knida insult when in reallity its one of the most sucessfull franchises thus a very good geame. I guess its the same as halo back then when it was bashed.

Stop crying. People have more than enough reason to hate Call of duty already(Takes away all the sales from deserving games, publishers force devs to make games like call of duty, shows that lack of innovation is rampant in the industry)

But what pisses me off is how BIASED those haters are

They say that MW3 looks rehashed and same as last year.

Well, in E3 i saw uncharted 3,assasin's creed revelations and spiderman edge of time. If no one told me i would say i was looking at their predessecors, yet only cod is bashed.

In retrospective, killzone 3 and dead space 2 and fallout new vegas were exactly like their predecessors but did the fans complain? Nope.

MW3 is rehashed. In fact it would be a rehash with shittier graphics and surprisingly, it would make a few more million sales than black ops.

Dead Space 2 added multiplayer and a new and GOOD story. The campaign was much much better than the previous one's. Fallout new vegas was a master piece in terms of writing (it was shit in the previous one). The game actually improved upon the faults of Fallout 3. And quite weirdly both games were also criticized by the critics for being too similar to predecessor whereas no call of duty game has ever been criticized for being more of the same thus making your point useless.

Infact if you go take a look in game that tried to change, you will see they piss of the fans and failed like prince of persia in 2008, fans were pissed so they made a warrior within clone after that.

People hated it because it was too easy not because anything was changed.

Hell if you take a look a the past you will see many similat situations, eg doom 1 and 2 were practicly the same with one new weapon and a bunch of monsters, when they made doom 3, everyone was pissed it changed.

Doom 3 didn't change a god damn thing. The main problem of the game was that it was dark and the story was shit. Both of which existed in the previous dooms

Hell even stalker series are recycled, suprisingly people only bash cod about it like all those examples i pointed out do not exist.

How many games have been in the stalker series? 3?
And I don't know what are you talking about. The first stalker was a base with everything laid out. Clear sky added faction wars and Call of pripyat removed faction wars but made the game much more polished and majorly refined.

Another thing will be is that they say there are too many cod games and it has gone stale over the year wih no changes whhile praising bf3 which comes from a franchise who is doing the same formula for farrr longer with very few additions. Eg: BF3 is basicly bf2 with better grpaphics and destruction(since they bringing back the airplanes)

You know how stupid this paragraph sounds?
Let me tell you. BF3 is basically BF2 with better graphics and destruction and planes whereas COD BLOPS was just MW2 with shittier graphics and buggier gameplay. Which one would you choose?

Imo this cod hate is getting out of hand and its way too biased.

Maybe you should have given thought before actually posting this thing.

 

[Griffolion]

its one of the most sucessfull franchises thus a very good geame. I guess its the same as halo back then when it was bashed.

I love the smell of ad hominem in the morning. It is actually morning here too.

OT: I don't hate CoD, I just think it's an overly popular, highly overrated game who's only success rides off it's record breaking sales. Said sales speak about the type of people buying the game as much as the game itself. Other than that, CoD hasn't been good since the original Modern Warfare, everything else has been a simple re-hash of the same old things with different names, faces and times slapped on. No hate in there, just opinion, albeit negative. That said, my main problem is with the players as much as it is with the actual game.

I've played CoD, both single player and multi player, it get's very stale, very soon. There's no real tactics or logic in there, it's simply who can ADS before who. I prefer slower, more strategic shooters like the Battlefield franchise, because it suits me better. The Battlefield single player 'attempts' at story lines are terrible, but it's all about the multi player with BF anyway.

So yeah, no hate with me, but I dislike the CoD franchise as it doesn't suit me as a shooter.

Another thing will be is that they say there are too many cod games and it has gone stale over the year wih no changes whhile praising bf3 which comes from a franchise who is doing the same formula for farrr longer with very few additions. Eg: BF3 is basicly bf2 with better grpaphics and destruction(since they bringing back the airplanes)

Apart from:

The fact that BF3 includes a game engine so sophisticated that it's incomplete due to current high end hardware not even being able to support it.

By destruction you mean not pre-animated sequences and set pieces but actual real-time physics driven destruction that is different every time it happens.

The fact that weapons and load-out are massively customisable compared to BF2 and even BC2.

A new approach to squad based play.

A greater amount of game types to suit all kinds of player.

By better graphics you mean as good graphics an FPS has ever been.

The fact that vehicles, including jets, actually exist.


I could go on but my wrist is hurting. Like I said before, Battlefield tickles my fancy orders of magnitude over Call of Duty. That's just me.

PS: This meme pretty much sums up my CoD thoughts.

 

[MacJack]

Now make no mistake people. I'm not trying to defend the game series. I just want to take the opportunity to quash these ridiculous arguments that I keep seeing pop up everywhere.

OT: I actually thought the CoD hate was slowly dying down. It's much less sporadic then usual.

But I do have to say, Modern Warfare 3 looks exactly the same as MW2. I don't think the game was being taken as seriously this time around.

What you said exactly, those arguments are so biased that pisses me off and as i said most games are and improved template that pass as a sequel nowadays.

Are you honestly using Doom 2 as an example of other games being re-hashed? It's Doom-fucking-2! You couldn't update it that much, you couldn't jump, have layered floors and ceilings, nor could you look up or down. Why not go the whole hog and say that the original MegaMan series was also a bane of gaming's existence...

CoD is a franchise that despite the tools and frankly stoooooopid amount of money that they have earned from releasing the highest-grossing game ever and THEN breaking their own record the year after: the games are re-hashed, multiplayer-based, have stupidly short and frankly fucking stupid campaigns (after CoD 4) and there is absolutely no fucking excuse for it.

Defending CoD is a losing battle, the proof is in the pudding. CoD is a franchise full of potential but filled far more with boring stodgy constant-gunfire-from-all-directions-tedium that was ripped out from last year's game, and the fact that it's so successful is doing wonders to the downfall of gaming and our culture.

Actually i picked doom 2 to show that it was done in the past and on pc gaming as well. But if you dont like that, then pick the stalker games, for a pc game SOC made a lot of money and its sequels were actual "recycled" more than cod.

I wouldnt give up on cod yet, like i said you cant do much on consoles and hold 60fps, in the next gen it will look nothing like it does now. Yes because cod wont die,EVER!!

Infact with its sales it will be considered a fail if it sold only 5 millions

 

[DarksideFlame]

Thanks to MW2 people in my class who had never touched a videogame console or played games on a PC and considered it a hobby for fat and socially retarded nerds (and there was a lot of people who thought of gamers like that before MW2 came out) had started to play it a lot and talk about it in school and asked me if I played CoD which I can't blame them for thinking that I did as I have played videogames since I was 6 years old, they were really surprised when I told them that I didn't play MW2.

A friend of mine who wasn't at all fond of games had also been taken in by CoD and told me that he had got himself a PS3 and both MW games and convinced me to try them I tried the MW1 and it was pretty good so later I got Black Ops because it was so incredibly overhyped and pretty much everyone had pre-ordered it so I decided to jump on the CoD love-train, While most of the people in my class got it for their consoles I was a firm believer that FPS games should be played on the PC which I still believe (Exception from that rule is Metroid Prime) and I tried the Black Ops single player campaign
I'll admit that it was not as good as MW1 campaign but it wasn't bad either it is average game though not in my opinion Black Ops is not a bad game I don't consider it money well spent as I'd rather used them to something else

The main problem with CoD is the MP, though i don't believe that the games fault rather the players who unstoppably yells at the other players with their cheap mics, but contrary to popular beliefs these kind of people were not a majority on most of the servers I played on and in any game with a MP or communities you'll find assholes there, this breed of gamers are not exclusive to the CoD or Halo series like some, NOT everyone seem to believe

 

[snow]

I love threads like these. They're so amusing. "Okay it's time to stop picking on *insert thing here*" threads always turn into "Flame that thing to death!!!" Threads.

Protip OP? Don't give a damn what others think of the game, if you personally like the game, then there should be no problem. Haters are going to hate. What harm are they doing you for hating something you just happen to like? None what so ever. There's absolutely no need to be sensitive towards harsh words spoken about what you choose to spend your free time on, because at the end of the day, you're still going to spend your free time on that regardless of what people say about it. So just ignore them, and continue doing what you enjoy to do.

There's always, always, ALWAYS going to be some one out there that doesn't like something you like, or not even like you as a person for one reason or another. We all can't like everything, and some of us don't like something for a completely stupid reason, it's just how it is. If it bothers you, don't read it. "Go play CoD?" Retaliate with, "Only after you stop hogging the computer with your Hello Kitty Online Adventure raids." Harmless insults, throw it right back at them. If they say something "Pff Hello Kitty Online doesn't have raids you moron." Then respond with. "Oh so you're admitting you play?" Really amusing stuff there.

Haters gonna hate! And Totalbiscuit said it best when he said. "I love haters! They're wonderful people... Especially MY haters... Why? Because they don't seem to want to shut up about the things they hate! Sure you'll get lucky and a fan will say something about you, but a hater! A HATER upon hearing your name will go OOOON and OOOON about you! Free publicity!"

 

[Dekkaz]

IMO it's hyped jingoistic malarkey.

Cod players are also generally annoying, stupid people.

Also, that game is a capitalistic giant for some unknown reason. High sales =/= good game.

Hitman:BO kills cod any day.

 

[sephiroth1991]

Well...in my opinion the game is poor in quality and content for a game that most often cost about £10 more than other games. The argument that the campaign is too short and anything longer is better doesn't sit well with me, since Farcry was a long game but I didn't like it, however I do feel after reaching the end of CODs campaign I haven't been giving enough content to be satisfied and games even shorter I felt I got my moneys worth and was satisfied(Portal). To say the hate towards it is unjust is like saying the hate towards Twilight or Justin Bieber is unjust, they all popular to there fanbase and make lots of money, but that's not equal to quality. I think what dissapoints me about COD is the reluctance I get from people who play it to not try other games, for example I have a friend who only plays COD on his PS3, I'm not lying its the only game he owns and he considers himself really into Video games. I will say this some hate for the game is over the top but so is the Love for the game, when in the end its just mediocre video game that happens to be popular.

Oh and I'm pritty sure most people who play it largely ignore the Single player, which means in the end they spending £45 on a arcade addition to the game.

 

[Srs bzns]

COD is Justin Bieber of the video game world

Nonononono. NOTHING is that bad, unless the next COD game is based in the backstage of a shitty pop concert.

 

[MacJack]

its one of the most sucessfull franchises thus a very good geame. I guess its the same as halo back then when it was bashed.

I love the smell of ad hominem in the morning. It is actually morning here too.

OT: I don't hate CoD, I just think it's an overly popular, highly overrated game who's only success rides off it's record breaking sales. Said sales speak about the type of people buying the game as much as the game itself. Other than that, CoD hasn't been good since the original Modern Warfare, everything else has been a simple re-hash of the same old things with different names, faces and times slapped on. No hate in there, just opinion, albeit negative. That said, my main problem is with the players as much as it is with the actual game.

I've played CoD, both single player and multi player, it get's very stale, very soon. There's no real tactics or logic in there, it's simply who can ADS before who. I prefer slower, more strategic shooters like the Battlefield franchise, because it suits me better. The Battlefield single player 'attempts' at story lines are terrible, but it's all about the multi player with BF anyway.

So yeah, no hate with me, but I dislike the CoD franchise as it doesn't suit me as a shooter.

Another thing will be is that they say there are too many cod games and it has gone stale over the year wih no changes whhile praising bf3 which comes from a franchise who is doing the same formula for farrr longer with very few additions. Eg: BF3 is basicly bf2 with better grpaphics and destruction(since they bringing back the airplanes)

Apart from:

The fact that BF3 includes a game engine so sophisticated that it's incomplete due to current high end hardware not even being able to support it.

By destruction you mean not pre-animated sequences and set pieces but actual real-time physics driven destruction that is different every time it happens.

The fact that weapons and load-out are massively customisable compared to BF2 and even BC2.

A new approach to squad based play.

A greater amount of game types to suit all kinds of player.

By better graphics you mean as good graphics an FPS has ever been.

The fact that vehicles, including jets, actually exist.


I could go on but my wrist is hurting. Like I said before, Battlefield tickles my fancy orders of magnitude over Call of Duty. That's just me.

Cant say that the things you pointed out are making a a point. You say cod doesnt suit you as a shooter, i could say bf doesnt because of the vehicles and the team based gameplay. Also glad they adding TDM to pull cod players in the game. The weapon customization is nowhere near as big as black ops, just because you can put all the attachments does not mean its, big, black ops had camos and even reticles for the sights.

As for the engine? Only on pc, dont deny it, you said that "includes a game engine so sophisticated that it's incomplete due to current high end hardware not even being able to support it. "

Imagine how it would be on consoles? half those things wont even be available.

 

[The Cheezy One]

On thing that annoys me is people that say "You're harming the gaming community by buying a game with no real growth". Yes. I probably am. But you know what? I just want to shoot some guys in the head for a few hours. I'm just going to come out and say it - that kind of thinking is pretentious. The kind of thinking that disregards things that don't classify to them as important or artistic.

 

[MacJack]

IMO it's hyped jingoistic malarkey.

Cod players are also generally annoying, stupid people.

Also, that game is a capitalistic giant for some unknown reason. High sales =/= good game.

Hitman:BO kills cod any day.

Hitman is a diffirent game and you cant generalize 18 million people because most you played were douchebags, i mean, you dont even scratch the surface.

I love threads like these. They're so amusing. "Okay it's time to stop picking on *insert thing here*" threads always turn into "Flame that thing to death!!!" Threads.

Protip OP? Don't give a damn what others think of the game, if you personally like the game, then there should be no problem. Haters are going to hate. What harm are they doing you for hating something you just happen to like? None what so ever. There's absolutely no need to be sensitive towards harsh words spoken about what you choose to spend your free time on, because at the end of the day, you're still going to spend your free time on that regardless of what people say about it. So just ignore them, and continue doing what you enjoy to do.

There's always, always, ALWAYS going to be some one out there that doesn't like something you like, or not even like you as a person for one reason or another. We all can't like everything, and some of us don't like something for a completely stupid reason, it's just how it is. If it bothers you, don't read it. "Go play CoD?" Retaliate with, "Only after you stop hogging the computer with your Hello Kitty Online Adventure raids." Harmless insults, throw it right back at them. If they say something "Pff Hello Kitty Online doesn't have raids you moron." Then respond with. "Oh so you're admitting you play?" Really amusing stuff there.

Haters gonna hate! And Totalbiscuit said it best when he said. "I love haters! They're wonderful people... Especially MY haters... Why? Because they don't seem to want to shut up about the things they hate! Sure you'll get lucky and a fan will say something about you, but a hater! A HATER upon hearing your name will go OOOON and OOOON about you! Free publicity!"

I think ill take this post as advice and log out and not give a damn anymore.

 

[Sarge034]

I don't see why anyone should care.....

Those who like it should play it and thoes who don't should not.

BAM! /CoD hate
NEXT!!!!

PS

Spoiler: This is what has happened to CoD