This is why I think that animals are superior to humans

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orangeban

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Alright, firstly, we suspect that dolphins kill animals for fun, so there's that. We also know that ants conduct war, and certain breeds literally rip off the queens limbs when they reach her during a hive invasion, purely as a long and painful form of execution.

Secondly, those kids are twisted bastards. I don't know if they're just little socio/psychopaths or just plain horrible bastards but here's the thing (just like to ask something, do non-human species have psychopaths? I suspect not, since that would require the others to have empathy which is an advanced trait that we only know humans to possess), humans tend to do such cruel twisted things because we are so complex and advanced and superior. Our brains have moved past the point of simple survival tactics and into the realm of emotions and rationality, and with all that comes these bastards who think that burning dogs is fun.

For the kids punishment, I suggest therapy and a psychiactric analysis, I want to know if they are just bastards, or if their brain is wired in a way that makes them such despicable sadists (and I don't mean the lovable kinky kind of sadism)
 

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Oh man. If I ever found those people, I'd do a hell of a lot more than set them on fire. Humans can fight back, but that poor little dog couldn't do a thing. Honestly. Fuck people.

MrDeckard said:
3) No. I hate to be "That guy", this needs to be said: Human life is more valuable than animal life. Period. Yes, there are exceptions, but only in the case of humans who are doing bad things to other humans.
I've never really understood this logic. Humans deserve to live more than animals simply because we have thumbs and the ability to think freely?
 
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Almgandi said:
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I think your ignoring the fact that we humans have saved animals, and we didn't get to the top by being submissive minnows... Here's the thing, we're MORE INTELLIGENT. Ergo, we're superior, even in most cases if you include morals. Anyone who denies that animals also fight to be "alpha" or the last animal standing is an idiot.
Oh yeah? Tell me one good reason how polluting the planet (and I am not even necessarily talking about that weak CO2 , I'm talking about legally throwing radioactiv waste into the ocean ),having other people of our kind suffer because it actually might cost us something (le gasp!) and declaring some bimbo playing in a movie more worhty and important than the guy who builds houses or in general makes life the way we are used to possible shows any sign of inteligence?

Or how using my "inteligence " to manipulate a whole nation to do my bidding or even to trick any system that was meant to establish equality for anyone for one's personally greed makes us superior in any way shape or form.

Just because we have the physical possiblity to be in a position to control what happens in the world doesn't mean we are actually made for that position. Else there wouldn't be so much crap going on in the world and yes we are able (and often show that btw) to do good, but what good is that if some person with enough control (-----> enough money) can fuck that up in seconds.

Intelligence is a double edged sword (oh how cliche). While it does empower us with the power of being ghandi himself it can also turn us into massive pricks (I am talking BP massive )

So don't just assume that YOU>everyone else that isn't part of your species just because you have something better than they do; cause you also have something far worse.
Hmm... As I feel like nitpicking one single thing from what you said, (The BP mention) I honestly have to disagree with you. I don't know anyone, (I MEAN ANYONE) who was thinking that BP was in the right. BP got punished for their stupidity, as in two months of their worst publicity of all time. Also, Azucar Winvirog? Wtf Captcha?
 

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As I'm sure someone has already pointed out, humans are animals. So if animals are better than humans then humans are better than humans. Therefore, humans are infinitely awesome.

I must admit that humans probably do in fact have a limit to their awesomeness so you have a contradiction on your hands. Either way, you're wrong. (Seriously, since when were non-human animals so moral anyway? They're only innocent through their ignorance)
 

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ruben6f said:
Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do
I've seen a lot of people arguing that certain animals are 'cruel for no reason too'. But what I think needs to be addressed is the thought that people don't do this for no reason. Everything people do, they do for a reason.

In this instance, I'd hazard a guess and say that these youths did that to the dog for fun.

They most likely found this fun, or funny to watch, because they lacked the empathy you or I might feel towards the dog, either due to a mental disorder, desensitisation to this kind of suffering (this could also include the kids being mistreated themselves), or (most likely) a lack of socialisation into a similar mindset as us.

You'd likely argue that the simple of reason of 'for fun' isn't enough to justify those actions, and I'd agree with you. But you have to bare in mind that there are people in the world who would feel differently to you about this. There is no 'right' answer. You think the negative aspects of that incident far outweigh the positive, those kids probably see it differently.

I have to say though, one thing animals DON'T do, that people do, is react this way to events that are nothing to do with them.
 

Tdc2182

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Read Mark Twain's Lowest Animal essay.

Pretty powerful.

With knowledge comes evil.
 

daydreamerdeluxe

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As mentioned, cats are the epitome of "playing with their food", and even sometimes with animals they're not going to eat. It's not a unique human trait. What DOES appear to be a unique human trait is applying our morality onto other creatures that have completely different behavioural structures.

JacobShaftoe said:
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Crikey. Have you considered just removing emails/setting a spam filter on your email to stop yourself from getting emails from the Escapist, and then not coming onto the site? I mean, it's not like the mods are forcing you to come on here.
 
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Sparrow said:
MrDeckard said:
3) No. I hate to be "That guy", this needs to be said: Human life is more valuable than animal life. Period. Yes, there are exceptions, but only in the case of humans who are doing bad things to other humans.
I've never really understood this logic. Humans deserve to live more than animals simply because we have thumbs and the ability to think freely?
In a word, Yes. The ability to think and feel at such a higher level makes us better life forms.

In addition, while a minority uses that free will to do bad things, the vast majority of people use this free will to do VERY good things.

Question: There is a complete stranger and dog you have never seen. They both look nice enough, but you must kill one of them. Which on do you pick?
 

Shakomaru

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I saw that and thought of this instantly... http://theoatmeal.com/story/octopus
But then I read it and got all...



My only response? Humans need to get over themselves. They aren't the best thing that ever happened to earth.
 
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RhombusHatesYou said:
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But yeah, seriously, dolphins are animal lovers' dirty little secret. You'd be amazed at the shit they do for fun.
Chimpanzees are even worse. Vicious, sadistic bastards.
agreed

*oh hai chimpanzee!*

*chimpanzee looks at you, proceeds to rip off your face and hands and beats you to death with your own limbs*


yeah, seriously fuck this awful troll arrogance to hell and back, i can't even choose a starting point at how bad this OP is
 

Gitty101

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Just saw the thumbnail, couldn't bring myself to watch the video. I hate animal cruelty in all its forms. Killing an animal for no reason is just cruel and sub-human.
 

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GLo Jones said:
ruben6f said:
Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do
I've seen a lot of people arguing that certain animals are 'cruel for no reason too'. But what I think needs to be addressed is the thought that people don't do this for no reason. Everything people do, they do for a reason.

In this instance, I'd hazard a guess and say that these youths did that to the dog for fun.

They most likely found this fun, or funny to watch, because they lacked the empathy you or I might feel towards the dog, either due to a mental disorder, desensitisation to this kind of suffering (this could also include the kids being mistreated themselves), or (most likely) a lack of socialisation into a similar mindset as us.

You'd likely argue that the simple of reason of 'for fun' isn't enough to justify those actions, and I'd agree with you. But you have to bare in mind that there are people in the world who would feel differently to you about this. There is no 'right' answer. You think the negative aspects of that incident far outweigh the positive, those kids probably see it differently.

I have to say though, one thing animals DON'T do, that people do, is react this way to events that are nothing to do with them.

I can't see anything else besides I agree.
 

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ruben6f said:
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.
I once watched my neighbours cat catch a mouse. It let the mouse attempt to escape before recapturing it with ease. It then tore one of the mouses legs and let it go before recapturing it. It cut off another two legs and a tail before leaving the now dead mouse. It didn't eat the mouse and i know it didn't return as it left the thing to rot away.

It tortured and killed the mouse for fun.

I've also seen a video of killer wales playing and torturing an injured seal pup before killing them.

This behaviour is a purely human thing. Its common.
 

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27CDruid said:
ruben6f said:
Because no animal wold do a thing like that to a human, animals don't hurt a human for no reason, animals don't hate and animals don't laugh when they kill someone in a horrible way (hyenas do not laugh just saying), humans on the other hand do these things to animals and other humans.

Animals like that dog don't even know why they are being tortured, when animals attack a human they have a reason.

Being cruel for no reason is a thing only humans do and I will never in my life believe in the idea that humans are superior to animals when there are still people who do these things and maybe even worse.
I once watched my neighbours cat catch a mouse. It let the mouse attempt to escape before recapturing it with ease. It then tore one of the mouses legs and let it go before recapturing it. It cut off another two legs and a tail before leaving the now dead mouse. It didn't eat the mouse and i know it didn't return as it left the thing to rot away.

It tortured and killed the mouse for fun.

I've also seen a video of killer wales playing and torturing an injured seal pup before killing them.

This behaviour is a purely human thing. Its common.
Please read what other people post, everione has told me about the cat thing
 

mano521

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i was about to come in here and give you the proverbial "business" but i can clearly see my statements have already been said in the first page of comments alone. please do not call our entire species inferior to some animals because some morons in bolivia get beaten by their fathers and take their pain out on dogs