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ratzofftoya said:
Helmholtz Watson said:
ratzofftoya said:
I gave you the definition of racism. You have it. Can you explain to me how it's inaccurate?
Its inaccurate because you seem to be under the false idea that racism involves a White person inflicting some form of harm towards a "person of color" purely because of the "person of colors" skin color/bone structure. Its not. When the Mexican mafia orders for their member to target innocent Black people, that is racism despite there being no White people involved.
Sorry, I didn't mean to give that impression. In the instance you mentioned, prejudice (based on race) is being levied against a disempowered community. It is, therefore, racism. The instance where it wouldn't be "racism" is a Mexican mafioso ordering a hit against white people because of their race. Though it WOULD be prejudiced, and it WOULD unquestionably be a shitty, horrible thing to do.
You're being stupid. Our world is not a cohesive one, and 10 or 20 years of a system can be just as dangerous as 200. I face racial subjugation despite being white in my local communities - Black people get tax credits, the community is predominantly black, and they use the (False) excuse that "White people have all the power and privileges" as justification for not hiring me, and the occassional nightly gang-raid because I'm a white guy living in a black neighborhood, despite living there most of my life.

Yes, there's a problem with racism. Listening to stories of abuses from street and traffic cops to black people pisses me off to no end (And yet people wonder why there are cop-killers?), yet the skin color in power in one area isn't the skin color in power everywhere.

And to believe that a White Person cannot be subjugated has obviously never heard of the Irish American plight. Please go watch Blazing Saddles again.

So far, the only "racist story" that I found offensive people would find funny is the observation that a low-income neighborhood's supermarket sells out of watermelons when people get their welfare checks: Yes, that's a stereotypical behavior associated with "Ghetto blacks"... but the behavior is a result of social, cultural, and economic factors, not skin color.

It's not "racism" holding people in the ghettos back: It's the fact that they live in the ghettos and have their development restrained by the culture therein. Black people are holding themselves back as much if not more than white people are holding them back. When someone uses their race as an excuse, they're holding themselves back. I can't fault the 'ghetto' speech patterns or diet: my extended family are Rednecks, and I can't NOT see the similarities between Redneck White and Urban Black culture - and they face similar levels of persecution. Actually, the black guy faces LESS trouble than the hick.
 
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ratzofftoya said:
Hazy992 said:
ratzofftoya said:


This thread isn't 'hey guize let's all be teh racists OLOLOLOLOL' it's about mocking racism. If you mock it and laugh at how stupid it is then it takes away racist's ammunition to hurt and offend'. That's the point of the thread, so just chill out.
So you are, I assume, a person of color who can identify and speak on behalf of all other persons of color and victims of racism to determine precisely what has the capacity to hurt and offend?

As someone who has been the victim of racism, I don't think it's funny to dredge up old stories just to laugh at them. I don't think they're funny, and I especially don't think white people should "mock" them as if they are innocent of any racism or prejudice. So cut it out.
Edited of my ignorance of the fact that guy was gone.

I guess my ignorance is... RACIST!
 
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ratzofftoya said:
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Actually, as part of my college education, I was required to attain a qualification called "Equality and Diversity", a large part of which was racism in society. Racism being the prejudiced treatment or generalizing characteristics of someone based on their race. While slave trading by white society was one of the original and worst offenders, that doesn't exclude white people from being on the receiving end of racism. Racism isn't exclusively prejudice backed by power. That's subjugation, with racial motives. That in itself is not exclusive to white people either. For an example, watch that film where Samuel L Jackson plays a cop living next door to the protagonist. That's racial subjugation through use of power in which the subjugator is a black man.

And race is biological. Ergo a child's race depends on the race(s) of his parents. That isn't any reason to treat said person any differently, but that does not mean the concept of race doesn't exist.
Wow, you have a qualification, that's pretty neat. "Race" is a concept that does not apply to whites. It is not biological. It is the arbitrary grouping of biological characteristics intended to describe a group of people in order to justify their subjugation. White people don't have a "race" other than one they have defined FOR THEMSELVES. Samuel L Jackson's character (ha ha) had individual power, but not the power of society and a history of 400 years of slavery lifting him up over his white neighbor.

Here's a simple example: it took black people 600 years and 18 MAJOR Supreme Court decisions until institutionalized racism was dismantled in the U.S. It took one white man (Alan Bakke) 2 years and one Supreme Court case to end racial quotas at public universities. If you call both obstacles these people faced "racism," meaning prejudice + power, you are quite obviously mistaken.
Bloody hell, sorry for the double post, but I just think that's flat out wrong! How does RACISM not apply the whites? Want to see major discrimination against a "race" of the white variety? Hey, remember the fucking Holocaust? Sorry to prove some genius's Nazism law, but if that wasn't racism against the Polish, then WHAT THE FUCK is it? Is that not RACISM? Then what do you call it, mate?

Edit: Oh, I guess he's gone already, and not only that, left with a completely nonsensical post to boot! Daystar-1 Dumbass-0
Another victory to put on the shelf, oh fabled hero of the Escapist!
 

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Bertylicious said:
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Black friend of mine got refused a portion of chips, because they were out of chips. An hour later, someone's being served chips.

Dinnerladies? Racist!

I later pointed out to her that they probably just got more chips in. She was convinced they refused to give her chips because she was black. I told her she only thought that because the dinnerlady was white.

Black people? Racist!
Middle class people? Racist!

(Also: chips in the school canteen? What of Jamie Oliver's Jihad against such things?
This was many moons ago, back when chips freely roamed the school canteens, when king-sized Mars Bars still wandered the vending machines, and when 'salad' was that lump of neglected green things you briefly acknowledged on the way to fish and chips.
 

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AngloDoom said:
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AngloDoom said:
This was many moons ago, back when chips freely roamed the school canteens, when king-sized Mars Bars still wandered the vending machines, and when 'salad' was that lump of neglected green things you briefly acknowledged on the way to fish and chips.
Ruddy salads. Why do people even bother? It is a rotton application of oneself.

What we really need is genetically engineered steaks to provide all of the nutrients a human needs in a juicy, barbequeable, package.

If we could do that by virtue of some manner of vat grown meat cube then we will end racism with a collective barbeque that is both halal and kosher by default. We could share pork, the best of all meats, with our muslim and jewish brethern as it wouldn't be from a clean animal but a totally clean laboratory.

BAM - World peace. It is impossible to be angry with someone who has given you a bacon sandwich.
 

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Good god man I love the Boondocks! You pretty much ninja'd me, but I shall forgive you because I enjoy your threads.
 

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Man, I shouldn't click on these threads. That's like an hour of my life I was going to devote to boring, yet productive things. Now I'm humming Guile's theme, wanting a bacon sancwich, and being angry at the dude who thinks he can speak on behalf of everyone that's had a racist experience ever.
Thanks bro.
 

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Bertylicious said:
Binnsyboy said:
TopazFusion said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Don't worry.
Daystar has the ability to rerail, as well as derail.
ratzofftoya said:
white people
Haha!

Yeah... we're the worst dancers ever...
I dunno. Michael Jackson did some of his best dancing as a white guy.
You also have to consider this:
 

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Chairman Miaow said:
Bertylicious said:
Binnsyboy said:
TopazFusion said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Don't worry.
Daystar has the ability to rerail, as well as derail.
ratzofftoya said:
white people
Haha!

Yeah... we're the worst dancers ever...
I dunno. Michael Jackson did some of his best dancing as a white guy.
You also have to consider this:
Now, see, I think Carlton has some snappy moves there. Not only is he using his arms but he is ALSO using his legs!

11 out of 10.
 

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freaper said:
NiPah said:

Quick poll, is this video racist towards Japanese or Black people?
I'm Italian, and that's offensive.
well it's Bob Sapp, he is a huge celebrity in Japan because of his legendary Fights in Pride and K1

and for a japanese commercial this one isn't that weird ;)
 

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ratzofftoya said:
I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in. I'll be quiet, massa. Let me just end with this: Prejudice by itself does not constitute racism. Neither does power by itself. But when people use their position of power, be it political or institutional, to reinforce their prejudices and to enforce them so that as a result of their racial prejudices the life chances, rights and opportunities of others are limited, the result is racism. Thus, the simplest definition of racism then is: racism is prejudice plus power. On the basis of this definition, while all people can be prejudiced, only those who have power are really racist. African Americans, Latinos, Asians and American Indians--the powerless in American society--can be and often are most prejudiced toward Whites on an individual basis, but they are not racists at the structural, institutional level. Within this understanding of racism, to be a racist you have to possess two things: 1) socioeconomic power to force others to do what you desire even if they don't want to, and 2), the justification of this power abuse by an ideology of biological supremacy. Keep in mind that what often is described as racism in society today, is really nothing more than prejudice and discrimination. While a Black or Latino person, through the use of a gun and/or intimidation, can force a White person to do as he, as an individual, desires, this is an individual act of aggression, not a socially structured power arrangement. At present, however, only Whites have that kind of power, reinforced by a belief in an ideology of supremacy, both of which constitute the basis of racism in America today.

PoC (people of color) can?t be racist, because they don?t have any reinforcement from that institutionalized power. We may hold individual racist ideas and thoughts, but we only have the power to do damage with our actions in the rare, brief contexts where our other privileges temporarily override color privilege. A relative of mine may say racist things about black or white people in her own home, but when she engages with the wider world, as she must do daily, she?s just another brown girl, and is therefore at risk.
But nothing in this thread is racist. I haven't seen skateboards anywhere. Racism is when you tilt you skateboard so that the nose points into the air.
Oh no wait, it's not. What I've done is make up my own definition of racism to suit my belief about this thread. Sound familiar?

EDIT: Thought I'd stick in something vaguely OT
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Chairman Miaow said:
Bertylicious said:
Binnsyboy said:
TopazFusion said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Don't worry.
Daystar has the ability to rerail, as well as derail.
ratzofftoya said:
white people
Haha!

Yeah... we're the worst dancers ever...
I dunno. Michael Jackson did some of his best dancing as a white guy.
You also have to consider this:
>Implying Carlton Banks is a bad dancer :D
 
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Galletea said:
Man, I shouldn't click on these threads. That's like an hour of my life I was going to devote to boring, yet productive things. Now I'm humming Guile's theme, wanting a bacon sancwich, and being angry at the dude who thinks he can speak on behalf of everyone that's had a racist experience ever.
Thanks bro.
I'm sorry.

I'll be sure to make a terribly boring thread next time, just for you :D
 

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robotam said:
ratzofftoya said:
I'll go away. Sorry for ruining your really funny racism thread by bringing the perspective of a minority in. I'll be quiet, massa.
[AND OTHER WERDS]
But nothing in this thread is racist. I haven't seen skateboards anywhere. Racism is when you tilt you skateboard so that the nose points into the air.
Oh no wait, it's not. What I've done is make up my own definition of racism to suit my belief about this thread. Sound familiar?

EDIT: Thought I'd stick in something vaguely OT
.[/youtube]
It's people like you who trivialise the work of Minority Man! If we didn't have that hero's perspective on things, we'd fall into chaos! As we know, all other forms of 'minority' are heavily suppressed on the internet and without Minority Man bursting into threads trivialising racist individuals and telling us to stop having fun, well, we'd never hear from anyone but white middle-class Americans and the racism would only somehow get worse!

And that, my ignorant* friend, is why he left. Minority Man is the hero the Escapist Deserves, but not one it needs right now.

[/Sarcasmo-Speech] (* STILL being sarcastic here, don't hurt me D= )

I think practically any time anyone opens their mouth to say "I'm not being racist, but..." it could end up here. My person favourite is "I'm not racist, but I don't want my girl to marry a black guy. To them, we're just infidels, right?"

Drunk Guy On The Train, I will never forget you, you crazy sonnuvabitch.

EDIT -

Applied cowardly asterisks just-in-case.
 

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Hazy992 said:
Chairman Miaow said:
Bertylicious said:
Binnsyboy said:
TopazFusion said:
TheRightToArmBears said:
This thread is being derailed into super serial territory!
Don't worry.
Daystar has the ability to rerail, as well as derail.
ratzofftoya said:
white people
Haha!

Yeah... we're the worst dancers ever...
I dunno. Michael Jackson did some of his best dancing as a white guy.
You also have to consider this:
>Implying Carlton Banks is a bad dancer :D
I suppose I had forgotten this.