This Vita hate train is getting ridiculous.

[Nadia Castle]

Its not hate its disappointment. All of the Vitas issues have been an exact replay of the PSPs problems.

Was finally going to pick one up last month when I head all the oddworld games are being released for it after a long time uming and ahing. But I think I will wait till after E3 just in case Sony come to this senses and release one with some built in memory.

 

[Warachia]

Zero Escape isn't exclusive.

I think what people mean by "no great games" is "there aren't any games that warrant the price, for me." Which is the case for myself. Gravity Rush and Soul Sacrifice look good, but I have Persona and Zero Escape on other systems and the rest of those games don't interest me.

I don't want it to fail, I just don't want one. Until it hits a price point I find reasonable or gets enough games I want to justify it's price I'm not going to buy one. I believe that this is the attitude of a lot of people.

Sorry, it's also on 3DS, you're right, and that's not a bad attitude to have, I made that reply because he was just wrong in saying it has no games when it has a massive amount of PS1 and psp games from the PSN store (he wasn't looking at just exclusives).

Captcha: "talk turkey".

 

[Kefo]

I've enjoyed my vita so far. My wife bought it for me as a birthday present using her shoppers points so she really only had to pay the tax lol.

P4G and Soul Sacrifice are great games and as a plus subscriber I have a long list of free games that I can play and catch up on. Games like uncharted, gravity rush, disgaea 3 to name a few I grabbed off the store.

 

[Yopaz]

Why is it that everyone thinks the Vita is going to fail?

You might want to check your definitions here. Thinking something is going to fail is not the same as hating something.

Interesting seeing you butt-hurt, because when it comes to the Wii U or Nintendo you are on the oposite side of the spectrum.
Nice observation from my part isn't it?

OK, now that is pure brilliance in your post right there.

OT: The problem with the Vita is that there aren't enough original games that I am interested in. Sure, I would like to get a crack at Persona 4 and I really like the tech and the design. I think there's a lot of potential in the Vita, but I find it disturbing that the only time I noticed Vita being mentioned on Sony's E3 presentation last year was when they presented games that were for other systems too. I didn't pay that much attention, but I feel like Sony isn't putting enough effort into making the Vita successful.

I also don't like the memory card prices. I have a 3DS with a 32 GB memory card, if I want the same for a PS Vita I have to pay more than 3 times the price of that SD card.

 

[Megacherv]

LittleBigPlanet Handheld iteration of a PS3 game
Uncharted Handheld iteration of a PS3 game
Gravity Rush Great game
Sonic All-Stars Transformed Available on every other platform
Knytt Underground Available on PS3 and PC
Thomas Was Alone Available on PS3 and PC
WipeOut 2048 Good game, but only for fans of futuristic racers
WipeOut HD Fury (as DLC for 2048)
Persona 4 (not personally for me, but I see where its fans are coming from) Port of a PS2 game
Jet Set Radio Available on pretty much every other platform
Street Fighter X Tekken (hopefully they'll put Tekken X Street Fighter on the Vita as well) Available on every other platform

And that's simply named off of the top of my very hungover head

Currently in production:
Lone Survivor Available on every other platform
Stealth Bastard Available on PC and PS3
Spelunky Available on Pc and 360
Killzone Mercenary
Tearaway

The majority of those titles are multiplatform games already available or soon-to-be released on platforms people already own. That's not how you tempt people to buy your $250 handheld. When you're trying to get people to stump up that sort of cash, you need to give them every last reason you can think of to pick it up. Marketing on the fact it can play many of your PS3 games is not the way to go about it. The Vita doesn't just need a couple of exclusives, it needs enough exclusives to validate its existence as a console in its own right, not just as an add-on to whatever console Sony is currently marketing.

I agree that the hate is very misplaced, the 3DS deserves it more for being closed off and being a carrier for the continued Nintendo copy-pasting and for their STUPID business methods (3DS XL without a charger? Fucking 'tards)

Seriously? Nintendo are putting out exclusives every month until next year, have seen sales skyrocket as a result, and you think they're the ones in trouble?

The internet can be such a weird place sometimes...

'Handheld iteration of a console game' is surely a point in its favour because it is capabale of producing the same experiences as its console counterpart. Same as with a game on it being multiplatform, especially with the quality of the game in comparison to other platforms (seriously, Sonic All Stars Transformed? Lighting and textures are the only things of a lower quality, and the lighting gives it a look more suited to a cartoony kart racer, but I digress).

Also, 'good game, but only for fans of futuristic racers', seriously? You can argue better than that.

And nowhere did I say that the 3DS was failing, I just said that what Nintendo get away with is ridiculous, especially with how retarded it can be.

 

[F'Angus]

So...yesterday I bought a PS Vita.. yes I'm still annoyed by the price of memory cards but the amount of games that are coming out on it recently persuaded me. Plus it's good to play on the bus.

 

[Doclector]

Well, I don't honestly see anyone getting vicious about the vita, but it's undeniable fact that it isn't doing well.

Almost everyone who I know that's bought one says it's a very nice piece of kit with lots of potential, but at the moment, that potential simply isn't being used. I don't really know anyone who doesn't WANT to see that potential used, a little competition, not to mention a more "hardcore" choice for handhelds would be very welcome.

I'd say there's less hate for the vita and more for sony's mishandling of it.

 

[klaynexas3]

I don't think anyone really hates it, and I would think most would prefer just to see it improve, rather than actually fail, since it was never bad to begin with, simply too expensive with too little amounts of good exclusives to justify said price. That's where most of the criticism lies, and most people know that can change, so they are less likely to want to watch it burn and more likely to want to see a revamp.

I feel this community really only hates on the products that are beyond repair or beyond any amount of fucks given by this community, or plenty of other things for arbitrary reasons, but the Vita surprisingly isn't one of them.

 

[Korten12]

'Handheld iteration of a console game' is surely a point in its favour because it is capabale of producing the same experiences as its console counterpart.

People don't buy handhelds to play console games. People buy handhelds to play handheld games. If they wanted to play a PS3 or 360 game, they'd sit down on their coach and play their PS3 and 360 games on their big TV with surround sound speakers.

People don't want to play those sorts of games on a portable system. They want to play games that work in 5 minute short bursts. When they're on the bus, say, or waiting for an appointment at the doctors, or sitting at the train station. Games like Pokemon and Professor Layton are designed around that handheld quick-burst philosophy, hence why they sell millions and move handheld units. Games like Uncharted, Resistance and Killzone are meant to be played in hour long sessions or more, when you can get invested in the campaign or multiplayer. Hence why those games haven't shifted Vita units.

Not the reason why I bought my Vita. I bought my clearly for console-experiences on the go. Stop trying to put all mobile players in one group.

Face the fact that THERE IS a demographic of people who want Console experiences on the go. Not everyone wants tiny bits, they want the full thing. Sometimes its nice to be able to play them without having to log around an entire console and possibly monitor to play on the go.

Sometimes you don't want to be on your laptop either, you want to play the same games but on your bed, in your car (obviously if someone else is driving), and various other places.

Jeffers, I think my main problem with you is that you assume that your opinion is akin to Word of God (http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/WordOfGod), and that everything you say is above others and true.

The reason the Vita hasn't shifted as many units as the 3DS is because of Price of the system it's self and memory cards. If the Vita sold for $100 for it's Non-3G version and $150 for it's 3G version (or even $125), and the memory cards went down in price, it WOULD shift more units?

More then the 3DS? No, Nintendo will always sell more in the handled market. But the Vita ISN'T not selling as well because of the lack of more "Mobile" games.

 

[Colt47]

Anyone else getting the Limited Edition of Muramasa Rebirth? I know it's off topic, but the vita face cover looks gorgeous.

 

[FourCartridge]

Anyone else getting the Limited Edition of Muramasa Rebirth? I know it's off topic, but the vita face cover looks gorgeous.

I've never really played a 2D hack & slash RPG but I'm getting a Vita thursday for stuff like Golden Abyss or Wipeout. I may try it out as an intro to the genre.

OT: I've never really tried a Sony handheld before, and most of my purchases have been playing it safe, so I'm looking forward to it.

 

[Windcaler]

Not the reason why I bought my Vita. I bought my clearly for console-experiences on the go. Stop trying to put all mobile players in one group.

Face the fact that THERE IS a demographic of people who want Console experiences on the go. Not everyone wants tiny bits, they want the full thing. Sometimes its nice to be able to play them without having to log around an entire console and possibly monitor to play on the go.

Actually its not just consoles, its PC gaming as well. Theres one piece of equipment I have right now called the Razer edge which has the power of a low end PC. Its pretty much a high powered (and expensive) tablet I can play battlefield 3 on it at around 40 frames per second although when Im on the go like that I like RPGs more and skyrim works fine. Just last week I took the train to visit my dad for his birthday and I played Metro 2033 heading over there and Skyrim coming back. It was great.

Project shield looks a little more interesting but it seems like its less about being on the go and playing PC games then it is about playing them in a more comfortable setting like on the coach. Last I heard there wasnt any predictions on what that will cost but I think its interesting technology

 

[VanQ]

People don't buy handhelds to play console games. People buy handhelds to play handheld games. If they wanted to play a PS3 or 360 game, they'd sit down on their coach and play their PS3 and 360 games on their big TV with surround sound speakers.

I honestly think it's pretty arrogant of you to assume everyone that buys a handheld buys it for the same reason you do. I bought my Vita because it offered me a console experience on a handheld. Ever since I was a bright eyed, eight year old kid playing Crash Bandicoot on the PSX that my parents bought for me for my birthday that year, I wished and wished that I could pick up my GameBoy and play a game just as good as my console, with that amazing control scheme and gameplay mechanics that matched the very best.

My GameBoy or DS never did end up granting that wish, though I love my 3DS for different reasons. But Sony stepped up to the plate and gave players like me what I dreamed of. I'm romanticizing this way too much but I'm not lying that the Vita did give me something I always wanted and I love it for that.

TL;DR is stop assuming that you know what all gamers want. You appear condescending and arrogant.

Now if you'll excuse me, a friend is bothering me to play some Soul Sacrifice with him.

 

[-Seraph-]

I just roll my eyes and sigh every time this sort of nonsense comes up. It doesn't help to see how short peoples memories are given that that 3DS had it pretty rough (maybe not as much as the Vita) up until a few months ago. Though there are a few things that could be done to help the Vita improve, we still should give it time like at systems. This isn't a new phenomena after all, the WiiU is getting the same treatment and it's still rather premature to write off either of them.

Others have already debunked the "no games" argument, so I won't waste my time reiterating. Needless to say, I love my Vita and have a decent library that will continue to grow.

Hopefully Sony will have a good lineup of games at E3 to show, this could be their last chance to really convince a good portion of people into putting a Vita in their shopping lists.

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Not to mention the existence of the sleep function pretty much stuffs the stupid "short bursts" argument. He seems to forget that since the PSP, we've been able to just suspend our games whenever we want, akin to quicks save almost. The "people don't want console experiences on the go" crap is total bunk. Hell shouldn't that be the "promised land" of portable gaming to begin with? (well, that's my ideal anyways)

 

[Lunar Templar]

there's a hate train now?

I figured it was just indifference.

Anyway, I'm not getting one cause I just plain don't want one, cause P4 is the only thing I've seen on it I'd want, and that dose not justify the price of entry

 

[TheSteeleStrap]

I don't have one but I really do hope it does well, because it looks to be a nice and very powerful system. The problem is that most of the games coming out for it are getting a critical thrashing.

 

[Korten12]

Snip.

Well if that posts anything its these:

1. You really are Pretenious.
2. You can type a lot and still be oblivious to a simple answer.

You want to know why the Vita isn't as big as the 3DS?

Cost. The Entry fee to the 3DS is much lower then that of the Vita.

When the Vita was first announced at $250, it seemed good but then a couple of factors stopped that:

1. The 3DS then got a price reduction due to less then ideal sales, this made the sales really game momentum and made getting into the 3DS system a lot easier.

2. The price of memory cards, because of how costly they're it adds even more money to the Vita, meaning you have to put in a lot more to really get the most out of it. $60 for a 16gb memory card? That is overly expensive.

You combine those factors and it really hampered any chance at selling, however in Japan when it got a $50 reduction (still not enough), it was clearly evident that there was a spike in sales, enough to even surpass that of the Wii U and the 3DS some weeks (however the 3DS total sales from the Origianl and XL were obviously still more.)

That proves the idea that the demographic is LARGER then you think, but the entry fee is just too much.

It really is as simple as that.