This whole "blaming fast food for obesity" thing really needs to stop.

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Finebrew

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I will admit it, Im fat. I dont remember Ronald, the king , the colonel, or the beer brewers forcing things down my gullet. All the bad choices I have made are my own.
 

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
People fail to keep in mind that schools are assigning ungodly amounts of homework to students now, which is also majorly contributing to sedimentary lifestyles. Although PC states, and this is clearly bullshit, that teachers are above reproach and can never have their actions questioned.

I have no respect for educators at all. For every good one, there's 199 shitty ones who would be fired at any other job.

...Uhwat?

You're seriously saying that homework is more of a contributing factor to obesity than fast food places? ...I'm not sure what to say here other than that

1. I really want you to show me some sources on where you're getting this notion that homework loads have increased a significant amount.
2. I'd like to point out that the majority of my friends spend only around 2 to 3 hours a night on homework and studying. I'd like to highlight the word night there. The majority of teens seem to do homework on weeknights, when they are going to be pretty sedentary(not to be a grammar nazi, but people aren't turning in to sediment) anyway. Those who do spend more time on schoolwork than this tend to be the higher ranked kids in my class, and I'd like to point out not-a-one of them is overweight.

Really, I have seen no correlation between schoolwork and obesity, I have a feeling you're just saying this because you don't like doing your homework. I could be wrong, but honestly, homework makes us fat? Come now.
 

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haters gonna hate, eaters gonna eat. i blame being lazy and eating too much for fat people.

"but some people have a gentical.."

"shut up, what 60% of america has genetics that make them fat? where did this come from? if it is genetics than america would have always been fat you n00b"
 

Arizona Kyle

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WanderingFool said:
Psycho-Toaster said:
BUT IT'S IN MY GEEEEEEENES

*eats bacon sandwich*
This, actually.

Not that its actually true, but people want a reason and a effigy to blame, rather than face the fact its their own damn fault.
yes that was his joke...


you deserved that
 

Ungenericteen

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I eat at mcdonalds everyday and weigh 100 pounds how I actually go outside and run or burn calories instead of complain
 

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lucky_sharm said:
Why can't people ever hold themselves accountable for anything?
because the don't want to feel acountable, because they think it makes them feel stupid if they do. the trend nowadays seems to be people playing themselves off as the victim so people feel sorry for them instead of pointing out their flaws.
 

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TeeBs said:
I think you already know this but, its both sides fault, I mean for god sakes McDonalds is still trying to convince people who don't look into it that they are healthy with there catch phrase "Its what you eat and what you do".
I work at McD's and we do have quiet a few healthy options, Salads, Yogurt, and etc. However, we do hundreds of burgers a day and only about 12-14 Salads.

What I'm getting at is, yeah fast food shouldn't be blamed for what people eat.
 

DanDeFool

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Hero in a half shell said:
Well, I eat at fast food joints quite a lot, being a student you find yourself in situations where you stay late in the uni, and have to eat, quick and cheap.

The flipside of this is that I have a good active lifestyle, I walk to and from lectures every weekday, (approx. 2 miles round trip) and usually go out cycling on Tuesdays for about 10 miles. Its a simple matter of burning more calories than you eat, although I wouldn't like to know my cholestoral level...
Two things. First, your cholesterol level is a very poor indicator of your overall health and risk for heart disease. Your homocystine levels are a better indicator of your risk for heart disease.

Second, I heard of a study where a guy ate nothing but snack chips (Doritos, Lays, etc.) and snack cakes for a month. He occasionally ate some vegetables, and took a multivitamin, but other than that, nothing but snack food. The only catch was that he had to stay under 2000 calories per day.

The weird part is he lost weight and his overall health improved.

I don't know what that means, but I find it odd that every time we think we know what's up with our dietary needs, there's something like that which is just inexplicable.

For my part, I seem to think that it's the amount of food we eat, not necessarily the type of food, that makes the biggest difference. It could be as simple a matter as when you overload your body with too much food, it starts to get fatigued just processing it all.

That said, I've often wondered why nobody's been able to succeed with a fast-food restaurant that serves healthy food. Maybe it's too expensive, or people just don't like to eat healthy enough for it to work.
 

The Gnome King

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lucky_sharm said:
Shouldn't the blame for obesity be given to the people who chow down on 3 Big Macs all at once or feed their kids excessive amounts of greasy food a day? Fast food isn't in the very least deadly so long as you eat in moderation or exercise often enough. Why can't people ever hold themselves accountable for anything?
I believe the argument is that, in particular in poor neighborhoods; fast food is readily available. Good food is not. Meaning, fresh produce isn't exactly readily available in most inner-city neighborhoods. Fast food IS always readily available. And, that is a problem.

I'm a 5'9" 130lb male. I'm also a vegan. My cholesterol level is appx 120 every time I get it checked. What's yours? What is the average poor person's cholesterol who has to dine at McDonalds every day?

And what do cardiologists say about cholesterol levels above 150 in general?

Issue is; people DO hold themselves accountable for things. It's just much easier to hold yourself accountable if mom and dad have upper-upper/middle class jobs and can feed you fresh produce and/or get your health care provided for by an insurance company - wait, you are OVER 22 and pay for your own health insurance and health care costs, right?

If not... might want to go a bit easier on those people who don't have the same entitlements... er, I mean, advantages, that you have.

In my experience in life people do the best they can with what they're given. I was very, very fortunate to have upper-middle class white parents.

I'll bet you were, too.
 

The Gnome King

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Yeah, fast food isn't bad if it's eaten in moderation. Like, that guy who did that "Supersize Me" movie essentially just proved that, yes, if you eat nothing but McDonald's 3 times a day for a month you're going to start getting sick.

But really, if you only eat fast food once a week (or less, obviously) and stay even remotely active then you're fine.

Hell I just ate a burger from one of the fattiest fast food places in Winnipeg. But I'm fine with it because this is the first fast food I've had in a couple of weeks and I'm doubling up my workout tonight.
And... your parents are upper-middle class white people who have health insurance for you, right?
 

The Gnome King

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Ken Sapp said:
ultrachicken said:
I think that the fault needs to be put on the fact that organic, healthy food is so expensive. If someone can't afford fresh vegetables, then it doesn't matter how much they want to eat healthy, they're stuck at mcDonalds.
Stop worrying about whether it is organic and just go to the local supermarket and get some veggies. Evil pesticides are not a problem if you wash your veggies. And it has always been cheaper to prepare your own meals any time I have tallied up the costs compared to buying premade(fast food or microwave).
Do you also tally up the costs of time=money and meal prep=time?

I'm with you, bro - I'm an upper-middle class white person who has always had medical insurance. Now I live in an (upper middle class, white) family that also has health insurance and extra time to wash veggies for dinner. My wife (a vegan, we're all vegan) spent 2 hours making soup for the "family" tonight because .she.has.time. to do this.

Wouldn't be the case if we were poor and had a few kids.
 

Flig

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Sir John the Net Knight said:
Flig said:
Sir John the Net Knight said:
People fail to keep in mind that schools are assigning ungodly amounts of homework to students now, which is also majorly contributing to sedimentary lifestyles. Although PC states, and this is clearly bullshit, that teachers are above reproach and can never have their actions questioned.

I have no respect for educators at all. For every good one, there's 199 shitty ones who would be fired at any other job.

...Uhwat?

You're seriously saying that homework is more of a contributing factor to obesity than fast food places? ...I'm not sure what to say here other than that

1. I really want you to show me some sources on where you're getting this notion that homework loads have increased a significant amount.
2. I'd like to point out that the majority of my friends spend only around 2 to 3 hours a night on homework and studying. I'd like to highlight the word night there. The majority of teens seem to do homework on weeknights, when they are going to be pretty sedentary(not to be a grammar nazi, but people aren't turning in to sediment) anyway. Those who do spend more time on schoolwork than this tend to be the higher ranked kids in my class, and I'd like to point out not-a-one of them is overweight.

Really, I have seen no correlation between schoolwork and obesity, I have a feeling you're just saying this because you don't like doing your homework. I could be wrong, but honestly, homework makes us fat? Come now.
A large number of books and papers have been written on the subject of homework and obesity. A documentary has been made as well. Go look them up, I'm sick of doing spade work for people.
I'm sorry, but when you enter into discussions you should really be prepared to cite your sources.


Edit: Sorry, clicked post too soon, rest of argument incoming.
 

DanDeFool

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gphjr14 said:
gamerguy473 said:
I agree, but it is the nature of humanity to blame someone else for your problems.
Also, WTF IS UP WITH THIS CAPTCHA?!?!?

Hey at least I can tell yours is Hebrew.



I don't know what thats suppose to be at the end.

On topic Fast food an ever growing sedentary lifestyle plus lack of nutritional education (how dare the govt try and tell us we're fat) is the cause of a lot of the obesity in the US.


Where there is excess there will be hedonism.
Epic Meal Time is the most disgusting thing I have seen since I learned about the Holocaust in history class.

That said, I like how they tried to make and drink out of a cup made of bacon. It didn't work, but I still think it was cool how they tried.
 

Ambi

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It is partially to blame. Simply by existing and selling tasty junk food they make they are part of the problem. Much of the time it is (but isn't necessarily, there will always be self-defeating fat people) a mixture of clever marketing and weak-willed "victims". Stressed out parents go there to buy a quick meal for their kids with the marketed "healthy options" or other such excuses at the back of their mind to appease their conscience. Then they buy a meal with a diet coke and think "oh what the hell, I may as well have a sundae, I deserve it".

It's not just fast food. If someone regularly eats regular McDonalds meals and lets themselves get fat, the odds are that they buy shitty supermarket food too. You know, stocking their trolley with fat free noodles, sugary tomato sauce, coke, hormone-fed cage chickens, "lite" ice-cream, falling for every health-related marketing gimmick even when they half know it's probably BS, and maybe throwing in a bag of frozen vegetables to make themselves feel better.

There are fast food restaurants here that actually sell vegetables, but you actually have to go look for them because they're not shoved in front of your face via corporate marketing campaigns, and perhaps *gasp* even step out of your car to buy it and maybe even persuade your children to eat that unfamiliar food that doesn't even have a toy or a colorful box or a sugary drink with it. I didn't even like McDonalds at first when I was a kid. I ate the fries, kept the toy, had like two bites of the burger, and coke tasted gross to me.