Those people who fail so much.

[ohgodalex]

I once convinced a girl that, much like "irony," many people don't know the real definition of gullible. 2 days later, she tricked me into apologizing for calling her fat; shortly afterwards, she revealed that I had never called her fat.

I guess we're equally fail?

 

[Keepitclean]

Some girl in grade 11 science class said

"Wait?! you mean dinosaurs were real?"

Oh that's nothing. I gave an hour long sppech to my human biology class about evolution. The example I was using was the transition from dinosaurs to birds. The next day a friend of mine who is a young earth creationist (I didn't know at the time) came up to me and said my speech was great and that she didn't know dinosaurs actually existed. She thought they were "just some made up" thing.

I didn't bother discussing it with her because from my past expiriences of argueing with creationists I have noticed that no matter how hard you own them they at the end just say "I have faith" and to them their thinking becomes justified.

 

[Astoria]

Ok so first off I think Bernzz had made it clear that this is in no way mean to be harmful to whoever 'fail kid' happens to be. I'm sure that he and anyone else who's commented on this thread are doing so AS A JOKE. It is not meant to be serious. If 'fail kid' were hurt or offended by this I'm sure they would stop and apologise for what they have done and that would be the end of it.

They might see it as a joke but does it feel like a joke to that kid. As someone else pointed out calling someone already "fail kid" amongst themselves is not a joke anymore but more ridicule and i find that highly offensive. Other people does do not seem to grasp the idea that what they see as joking can hurt and scar the other person. That person might not say anything about it but inside it might tear that person down to the ground.

I am indeed sorry i can not calm down if i see people treating others like that without them realizing what effect that might have on them. I do not have problems with people's opinion, i mean it would be a boring place if we all thought alike. What i do have problems with is what comes close to borderline teasing. The OP saying it isn't harmful to the kid but still saying he is referred to as "Fail kid" by people is not really convincing me (so to speak)

I'm not sure that the OP was meaning that it wasn't harmful to the kid, perhapes he can clear that up. Regradless perhapes your anger was better directed at him rather than Bernzz. Also, the way you are writing makes it seem that you mean that people who have commented don't care about whether or not the kid would be hurt by this and I'm sure that's not the case. There are very few people who would take joy out of that and yes I completely agree with you that those people are rather unlikeable. I just think that in your anger you may have accused people of things that aren't true.

 

[Woodsey]

We had a guy in our class that when asked for examples of mythological creatures associated with death, said 'Terminator'...

I would suggest that's actually full of win xD

Some girl in grade 11 science class said

"Wait?! you mean dinosaurs were real?"

Oh that's nothing. I gave an hour long sppech to my human biology class about evolution. The example I was using was the transition from dinosaurs to birds. The next day a friend of mine who is a young earth creationist (I didn't know at the time) came up to me and said my speech was great and that she didn't know dinosaurs actually existed. She thought they were "just some made up" thing.

I didn't bother discussing it with her because from my past expiriences of argueing with creationists I have noticed that no matter how hard you own them they at the end just say "I have faith" and to them their thinking becomes justified.

Personally I find it funnier when they start using a holy book as evidence. I was once told the world is definitely only a few 1000 years old because the Bible says so.

 

[tahrey]

woo flamewar...

i'll shove my tuppennorth on it by saying there's a difference between "below average intelligence" and "being an ignorant tool". You can be highly intelligent and still be the latter, or reasonably well informed and sensible without a genius IQ.

Not a fan of Green Day? Acceptable. Being in a high school and not even knowing what genre of music they make? Errr... how do you manage that? One lead guitar, one bass guitar, drumkit and vocals, with the LG living up to its title.
Though I'll definitely say the rest of his answers are understandable. Greenday have been going since roughly 1990... it's 2010 now... fairly popular throughout... half 'n' half.

My own failtards? Huh... a few. Though it's hard to label them that strongly. Most of the true dipshits dealt with on a daily basis are on the road.

My dear sweet grandmother has many units of mental fail in a given day, but have a heart, she's 91 and most parts still work OK. There are an awful lot of crazy questions however, usually relating to something she's sort-of interested in that's going on (particularly on TV), but can't be bothered to pay attention to. It rubs after a while.

Whoever programmed my ex-insurer's database. Dear lord. It's more like a sieve. Someone has got a job on the strength of family ties and outright boasting about skills they don't have, I think.

And a lot of the people I have to deal with at work. Tech support. Say no more. The equipment (other than the PCs*) is largely simplified to a Fisher Price "my first TV" level, with nice big laminated instructions, but something about it being large and superficially high-tech shorts out peoples' reasoning cortices til they're bumbling around like a developmentally arrested 3-year-old who's just learnt to walk without colliding with walls or hanging on to furniture.

* though just to put icing on the cake, we do have some who manage to break USB ports by inserting plugs upside down (presumably with a hammer), an IT course student who couldn't figure out that his monitor wouldn't work because the not-screwed-in VGA cable had fallen out and asked endless questions about whether other unrelated parts may be to blame rather than checking it as advised, and some guy who wanted to do a presentation but can't have made it himself, because the notion of how to move a mouse and open a file from within powerpoint seemed utterly alien to him... How do these people get themselves dressed and sort-of clean / fed of a morning before coming out into the world (some of them DRIVING, horrifyingly) to visit this mental torment upon us?


Can I also have an honourary vote for all those tea party wierdos (they're putting human brains into mice! no taxes for anyone ever! etc)... plus pretty much anyone who's saying that Bazza O is "worst. president. ever." because he hasn't fixed the shit that Bush landed everyone in fast enough? (Look, he's human like everyone else. Find some genuine faults to rip into you lazy shits. There must be some if you bother to look). There was some dickhole on the news last night lambasting him for not doing anything about the houses that were underwater because of Katrina. He was still a Senator at the other end of the country when that happened.

 

[Cornellious]

Have you considered the OP? This isn't suicide level harassment. This is making fun for fun's sake. It's very different. If the OP was laughing about the kind of harassment that would drive someone to taking their own life, we'd all be like you in this thread.

However, they're not. So we're not.
And I don't need to make fun of people to have fun. I make fun of people, of things, of myself, all to have fun. So I have taken a long hard look at myself. I see no problems.

Nope since calling a kid fail kid (nicknaming him that) because his thoughts are different then others is in no way harrasment or bullying .... /end sarcasm.

I am really disapointed in the people here. Like someone else said before i hope you feel really high and mighty and clever for asking a trick question to the guy.

Ok so first off I think Bernzz had made it clear that this is in no way mean to be harmful to whoever 'fail kid' happens to be. I'm sure that he and anyone else who's commented on this thread are doing so AS A JOKE. It is not meant to be serious. If 'fail kid' were hurt or offended by this I'm sure they would stop and apologise for what they have done and that would be the end of it.

I think both you an Pirate Kitty need to calm down about this. Bernzz has simply tried to voice his opinion and you have shot him down in flames. Forgive if I'm wrong but isn't this supposed to be somewhere that you can say how you feel?(within reason of course)If you do not like someones opinion then that is ok and a simple retort is all that is needed.

I am sorry if I have offended or bullied you in anyway but it's just how I feel.

I think it's pretty clear that from the OP that the behavior represented in the post is far from an isolated occasion. The fact that he has a nickname like "Fail Kid" is pretty damning proof.

I'm actually quite surprised you think that it matters to "Fail Kid" that they are doing it as a joke, the most mean spirited and cruel things you can do to people are usually disguised as jokes. I also don't believe that if they thought the kid was being hurt or offended they would care (or even notice) it might even spur more abuse.

EDIT: I just want to clarify, it's not the story exactly that I dislike, it's just the casual attitude taken toward that sort of abuse.

This is usually a fairly mature board so I guess it's just disappointing to see this sort of thing.

 

[Astoria]

Have you considered the OP? This isn't suicide level harassment. This is making fun for fun's sake. It's very different. If the OP was laughing about the kind of harassment that would drive someone to taking their own life, we'd all be like you in this thread.

However, they're not. So we're not.
And I don't need to make fun of people to have fun. I make fun of people, of things, of myself, all to have fun. So I have taken a long hard look at myself. I see no problems.

Nope since calling a kid fail kid (nicknaming him that) because his thoughts are different then others is in no way harrasment or bullying .... /end sarcasm.

I am really disapointed in the people here. Like someone else said before i hope you feel really high and mighty and clever for asking a trick question to the guy.

Ok so first off I think Bernzz had made it clear that this is in no way mean to be harmful to whoever 'fail kid' happens to be. I'm sure that he and anyone else who's commented on this thread are doing so AS A JOKE. It is not meant to be serious. If 'fail kid' were hurt or offended by this I'm sure they would stop and apologise for what they have done and that would be the end of it.

I think both you an Pirate Kitty need to calm down about this. Bernzz has simply tried to voice his opinion and you have shot him down in flames. Forgive if I'm wrong but isn't this supposed to be somewhere that you can say how you feel?(within reason of course)If you do not like someones opinion then that is ok and a simple retort is all that is needed.

I am sorry if I have offended or bullied you in anyway but it's just how I feel.

I think it's pretty clear that from the OP that the behavior represented in the post is far from an isolated occasion. The fact that he has a nickname like "Fail Kid" is pretty damning proof.

I'm actually quite surprised you think that it matters to "Fail Kid" that they are doing it as a joke, the most mean spirited and cruel things you can do to people are usually disguised as jokes. I also don't believe that if they thought the kid was being hurt or offended they would care (or even notice) it might even spur more abuse.

EDIT: I just want to clarify, it's not the story exactly that I dislike, it's just the casual attitude taken toward that sort of abuse.

This is usually a fairly mature board so I guess it's just disappointing to see this sort of thing.

Well if that's the view you have on people then I feel sorry for you. Just because there are cruel people out there doesn't mean everybody is.

 

[tahrey]

I think I have to disagree, Cornellious. We had one in our class. He got ripped on for other things that he couldn't help, but other parts of his behaviour suggest that he was a bit of a tool anyway, and would be without those other factors. Had a good record of ruining any science practical the two of us were assigned to together, for a start. Tried to friend me on facebook recently, after 10 years seperation. I clicked Ignore. Though I occasionally felt sorry/sympathetic when he was the one being the target of abuse, I didn't get any of that back in my turn, and we have no good times or shared viewpoint to make a connection over. His life seems to be well sorted ... I can't think anyone whose profile image is them on a sunny beach with a surfboard (when we live in a landlocked county of a wet-temperate country) is doing so badly. Better than myself even.

Yeah, he was kind of picked on a bit, had fun made of him because of his naivety and general idiocy, but that's what kids tend to do. I had my share of minor bullying for some strange or dumb stuff I did ... and learned to stop doing it, at least in view of those who took the piss for that reason. Once we matured a bit, *mostly* water under the bridge. Except for the actual "career" bullies anyway...

 

[D Moness]

I'm not sure that the OP was meaning that it wasn't harmful to the kid, perhapes he can clear that up. Regradless perhapes your anger was better directed at him rather than Bernzz. Also, the way you are writing makes it seem that you mean that people who have commented don't care about whether or not the kid would be hurt by this and I'm sure that's not the case. There are very few people who would take joy out of that and yes I completely agree with you that those people are rather unlikeable. I just think that in your anger you may have accused people of things that aren't true.

Last time in this topic i will quote you( i swear ).

Honestly the OP first post did anger me due to a few parts i explained already. The problem i have with Bernzz' replies was the attitude that came from it(the we can make fun of other people if we want to(the laugh at other , not with others attitude)). If i am wrong with that feel free to pm me(Bernzz that is).

So my posts (and anger) were more directed to that. I do admit my judgment gets a bit clouded when it comes to these kinds of things(but that is a whole other story).

Hope i explained it enough(else the pm is open for that(since it might be a bit better to not reply here anymore(reading might , but no replying).

 

[Keepitclean]

We had a guy in our class that when asked for examples of mythological creatures associated with death, said 'Terminator'...

I would suggest that's actually full of win xD

Some girl in grade 11 science class said

"Wait?! you mean dinosaurs were real?"

Oh that's nothing. I gave an hour long sppech to my human biology class about evolution. The example I was using was the transition from dinosaurs to birds. The next day a friend of mine who is a young earth creationist (I didn't know at the time) came up to me and said my speech was great and that she didn't know dinosaurs actually existed. She thought they were "just some made up" thing.

I didn't bother discussing it with her because from my past expiriences of argueing with creationists I have noticed that no matter how hard you own them they at the end just say "I have faith" and to them their thinking becomes justified.

Personally I find it funnier when they start using a holy book as evidence. I was once told the world is definitely only a few 1000 years old because the Bible says so.

Oh it's great when they do that. Then you can provide archeological evidence about the origins of their holy text before any natural science gets involved. I have kinda grown tired of hearing the same plain wafer thin arguements and rationalisations over and over again. It's a shame because some of these people are great thinkers generally. Their flaw is that that they give their religious views special treatment when it comes to scrutiny.

There was one kid in my physics class who was prime example of this; a brilliant thinker, he will probably go on to become a doctor or something. When I he told me he was a Catholic I asked why. Some of the rationalisations he had made by warping his religion to fit the science was ridiculous. One day he will figure it out though.

 

[ActivatorX]

Let us establish (in theory) that there are two types of people - naturally, there are more types, but to get my point across, I shall establish only two.

1.) Less-intelligent, yet humble (good and friendly people)
2.) Less-intelligent, yet utterly narcissistic and overconfident

You see, when it comes to the first type, it is wrong to make fun of them. So someone is not good at math, per se. If they don't understand Riemann's Hypothesis, you shouldn't make fun of them.

When it comes to the second type, oh boy, the fun begins. When someone at the age of 19 actually believes they are the most intelligent being in the world and know everything, yet says the following things with utter confidence:

- Scandinavia is a country
- Syberia is a country
- only Japanese people are considered to have "yellow skin"
- chocolate was invented by the Swiss
- German is the official language of the Netherlands
- Canada is a state under the US
- Jamaica is in Africa
- Il Duce is a fashion designer
- Tsarigrad (Carigrad) and Istanbul are two completely different cities in different countries
= here comes the best one =
- POTATOES GROW ON TREES

P.S. All the statements I have listed are about things that should be comprehended by someone at the age of 12, some even at the age of 6. That is, here, in Europe, of course.

 

[Elliee]

Well there was this one girl who asked does China have to do with communism. I'd say that was pretty fail.

My teacher said: Under this bone should always be brain.
I mean, wohooo?

 

[Cornellious]

I think I have to disagree, Cornellious. We had one in our class. He got ripped on for other things that he couldn't help, but other parts of his behaviour suggest that he was a bit of a tool anyway, and would be without those other factors. Had a good record of ruining any science practical the two of us were assigned to together, for a start. Tried to friend me on facebook recently, after 10 years seperation. I clicked Ignore. Though I occasionally felt sorry/sympathetic when he was the one being the target of abuse, I didn't get any of that back in my turn, and we have no good times or shared viewpoint to make a connection over. His life seems to be well sorted ... I can't think anyone whose profile image is them on a sunny beach with a surfboard (when we live in a landlocked county of a wet-temperate country) is doing so badly. Better than myself even.

Yeah, he was kind of picked on a bit, had fun made of him because of his naivety and general idiocy, but that's what kids tend to do. I had my share of minor bullying for some strange or dumb stuff I did ... and learned to stop doing it, at least in view of those who took the piss for that reason. Once we matured a bit, *mostly* water under the bridge. Except for the actual "career" bullies anyway...

I admit I've met both kinds, those who get piled on for no reason and those that bring it on themselves. I suppose it's not easy to determine which from just a random post on a forum. Does this kid bring it on himself? maybe, maybe not. From the information given none of what he said is really cause enough for ridicule unless he has already been made a target.

The thing is once you become identified as a sort of universal punching bag there is just no way out, short of moving somewhere else entirely. I had a friend in high school who was definitely the lowest run on the social ladder. He was a decent guy and really didn't deserve the flak that he got but had a habit of overreacting when targeted by abuse, thereby enhancing the fun of anyone doing it. He lives with his parents now and spends most of his free time playing video games and working on their family farm.

I understand why you wouldn't want to add them on facebook or what have you. There's a bit of a difference between befriending and ridicule however. Sure, its great that that guy seems to be doing well for himself, but I think that is likely in spite of everything, not that it had no effect.

In the end, nothing will really change anyways. Kids are going to bully each other for no good reason for eternity, but maybe I can get a couple people to stop and actually think about what they are doing, and that's good enough for me.

 

[Willem]

OP's music teacher sounds like a failure.

 

[CSidgwick]

Well in college we've named this kid Foaud from family guy (the sarcastic guy) because every time we make a joke he just seems to come out of nowhere, laugh extremely loudly then explain why he thought it was funny, ugh annoyance.

 

[TraderJimmy]

Making fun of a seemingly less than intelligent person for their apparent lack of musical knowledge is pretty disgraceful.

Weak people - they bring others down to build themselves up.

He's not less intelligent, he just says stupid things.

Calling him names, making fun of him, and including him in this thread - all things that are less than intelligent.

Yeah well, have your opinion.

I share it.

Pretty weird thing to make a thread about. Yes, I've known some people who've said stupid things. I've said stupid things myself before, I'm sure. Making fun of them for it is cheap, stupid, tacky and pointless.

I think Reginald D Hunter has a bit about that, if you can be bothered to youtube it.

But yeah, check your own insecurities at the gate.

 

[FalloutJack]

Of course I know people like this. People who barely have a few brain cells to rub together. So many frigging stupid people.

 

[tahrey]

I admit I've met both kinds, those who get piled on for no reason and those that bring it on themselves. I suppose it's not easy to determine which from just a random post on a forum. Does this kid bring it on himself? maybe, maybe not. From the information given none of what he said is really cause enough for ridicule unless he has already been made a target.

The thing is once you become identified as a sort of universal punching bag there is just no way out, short of moving somewhere else entirely. I had a friend in high school who was definitely the lowest run on the social ladder. He was a decent guy and really didn't deserve the flak that he got but had a habit of overreacting when targeted by abuse, thereby enhancing the fun of anyone doing it. He lives with his parents now and spends most of his free time playing video games and working on their family farm.

I understand why you wouldn't want to add them on facebook or what have you. There's a bit of a difference between befriending and ridicule however. Sure, its great that that guy seems to be doing well for himself, but I think that is likely in spite of everything, not that it had no effect.

In the end, nothing will really change anyways. Kids are going to bully each other for no good reason for eternity, but maybe I can get a couple people to stop and actually think about what they are doing, and that's good enough for me.

I sort of know what you mean, like I said I was in the same position myself for a while (possibly why the other guy sort of latched onto me). However I didn't make too much of a fool of myself, and mainly received it from the cooler kids as, being a bit geeky, I was a target. And my response was different - either ignoring it til they got bored, or fighting back in a more active way til they realised that escalation was going to result in violence rather than a hissy fit, up to and including trying to brain one of them with a classroom chair. (Don't let anyone try to tell you kids aren't vile, feral little shits - I can still rememeber my school days and I didn't have that much control either). Perhaps the answer is to give the likely underdog kids the necessary life skills to deal with this stuff - having a teacher mother and project manager father probably helped.

As for "in spite of everything", that suggests that maybe the abuse either didn't have much effect, or had a strengthening one. Perhaps he grew up a bit, finally (FINALLY) matured and stopped acting like a 5-year old in the body of an otherwise reasonably intelligent teenager, and realised - indeed, after moving out of that environment, which is also what properly turned things around for myself (going to college both) - that you don't have to stand up for that kind of thing, and the improvement can actually come from the way you act around others, particularly those who are forming first or second impressions of you.

I wouldn't ridicule him now, anyhow. It's just we have nothing to talk about. We didn't at the time, even.