Thoughts on death?
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I try to live as much as possible. When I die, I'm dead. I'd rather die knowing I lived my life to the fullest then hold back just in case theres an afterlife. When we die, and those who believe in God, and he exists, go to Heaven, then props to you. I won't care. Because I'll be dead.
That made sense in my head, I swear.
That made sense in my head, I swear.
I dont necessarily believe in life after passing on, but definitely consciousness.
think i just love life to much, to think that all my doings, feelings, and thoughts will be unaccounted for and dismissed as soon as i die.
I mean i hope to achieve great things in my life, and if i were to do this, i think it would sink me into sorrow for atleast 2-3 months, if i knew everything i've done, won't be able to bring me any pride or shame after im gone.
I just wanna look back at my achievements when im gone, and hopefully earn some more wherever i'll go.
think i just love life to much, to think that all my doings, feelings, and thoughts will be unaccounted for and dismissed as soon as i die.
I mean i hope to achieve great things in my life, and if i were to do this, i think it would sink me into sorrow for atleast 2-3 months, if i knew everything i've done, won't be able to bring me any pride or shame after im gone.
I just wanna look back at my achievements when im gone, and hopefully earn some more wherever i'll go.
Judgment Day. I'm a Christian because I'm not "cool" like you guys and actually find comfort in knowing that there is going to be a day when I can finally get away from the wasteland that is planet earth and live in perfection. I still fear, however, because it is the unknown and the unknown is one of my fears... no one knows for sure what is going to happen.
I don't know about you, but I don't have the feeling of sleeping without dreams. I simply wake up afterwards without having a recollection of any dreams.FactualSquirrel said:
And being asleep is not the absence of a mind, it's more like your mind is projecting random images.
Heaven and Hell, while reassuringly easy answers, are not particularly appealing to those who place a great emphasis in rationalization. Honestly, to what benefit to creation is having us laze around on clouds or to torment us, forever, based on what was ultimately a matter of how well we managed to cope in life from what we were given? Ludicrous. Perhaps even insulting: you give creation too little credit.
I prefer a deeper answer. Unfortunately, the fundamentals of death are tricky business considering we know very little about the fundamentals of life, in an Allegory of the Cave [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave] sort of way.
Perhaps the most attractive way I've heard it described came from a Zen master in Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind [http://la.gg/upl/Shunryu_Suzuki_-_Zen_mind,_beginner_s_mind.pdf].
I do suspect there will eventually come a time that humankind evolves past death. With adequate medical technology, we'll simply run out of things to ail us. The ravages of age itself may prove reversible. Our descendants would look back on death in the same way we do smallpox incredulously asking, "can you believe that used to happen? How backwards our ancestors were." I'm a little resentful I wasn't born in that age.
I prefer a deeper answer. Unfortunately, the fundamentals of death are tricky business considering we know very little about the fundamentals of life, in an Allegory of the Cave [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_Cave] sort of way.
Perhaps the most attractive way I've heard it described came from a Zen master in Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind [http://la.gg/upl/Shunryu_Suzuki_-_Zen_mind,_beginner_s_mind.pdf].
In other words, when we die, the elements that made up our individuality is simply reabsorbed into the universe. Contrary to the demands of our ego, there's very little in ourselves worth preserving, from a cosmic sense. If it's exhalation of your individuality you seek, you'd best seek it in life.
I do suspect there will eventually come a time that humankind evolves past death. With adequate medical technology, we'll simply run out of things to ail us. The ravages of age itself may prove reversible. Our descendants would look back on death in the same way we do smallpox incredulously asking, "can you believe that used to happen? How backwards our ancestors were." I'm a little resentful I wasn't born in that age.
Yeah, it's in 1 Corinthians Chapter 15 - Paul talks about our perishable bodies being replaced with imperishable bodies. Basically we will all (whether in Heaven or Hell) have a body that will last for eternity. Don't ask me how this will be done cause I don't know.GameOverGoblin said:
So if I die before Christ comes back I go straight to Heaven but its just my soul. When Christ does come back I get a new body that will never die.
No, on both accounts. Christianity isn't about good works (makes it unqiue compared to other religions). Basically, we all fall short of the standard God has set for us (perfection). We are all sinners. Therefore we cannot 'work' our way to Heaven through good deeds because our bad deeds prevent us from getting there.WestMountain said:
But God, in his mercy, sent his Son Jesus (who was both God and man) to die on the cross to satisfy God's justice and take the punishment for sin. Which means that to be saved one must repent and believe in Christ Jesus, his death on the cross for our sins and his resurrection from the dead to show that he conquored death.
At this moment of repentance God gives you what's called a 'new heart'. Your old sinful heart is replaced with a new heart which means that while you will still sin you will sin a lot less. That's where the devotation to Christianity comes from.
Christians are saved through Jesus, nothing they do. Their goods deeds and devotion come from the fact that they are saved and want to express their love for God by loving others. I'd recommend reading the New testement to find out more.
Neither do I, but I believe we are in a minority, which is why I said that.ultrachicken said:
But imagine that, infinitely. That is how fucked up non existence is.
Hi guys, been lurking this website for a while now but thought I'd create an account to add my opinion to this topic.
Me and a few friends talked about this topic over a barbecue a while ago, while a little drunk we did have some interesting thoughts.
We discussed the theory of an Oscillatory universe, which in laymens terms, is a sort of never-ending universe although we had devised our own theory for it.
1.There have been many universes before our own.
2.The big crunch is some sort of hyper black hole, that all mass will eventually fall back into.
3.Stephen Hawkings theorised that information/mass is lost upon the collapse of a black hole, although (If I remember rightly) that was debunked, all information/mass is expelled.
4.The big crunch works as a sort of blender, all mass is compacted into the singularity, jumbled and then expelled eventually by another big bang.
5.The universe is truly infinite, as in each period between big bang ---- big crunch new information/data/mass or whatever you'd like to call it is created, and then all absorbed back in the end.
I'm tired...but thats the gist of it.
Amazing what a few steaks, burgers and beers will get us chatting about, even though a few of them got "upset" talking about subjects like this.
Me and a few friends talked about this topic over a barbecue a while ago, while a little drunk we did have some interesting thoughts.
We discussed the theory of an Oscillatory universe, which in laymens terms, is a sort of never-ending universe although we had devised our own theory for it.
1.There have been many universes before our own.
2.The big crunch is some sort of hyper black hole, that all mass will eventually fall back into.
3.Stephen Hawkings theorised that information/mass is lost upon the collapse of a black hole, although (If I remember rightly) that was debunked, all information/mass is expelled.
4.The big crunch works as a sort of blender, all mass is compacted into the singularity, jumbled and then expelled eventually by another big bang.
5.The universe is truly infinite, as in each period between big bang ---- big crunch new information/data/mass or whatever you'd like to call it is created, and then all absorbed back in the end.
I'm tired...but thats the gist of it.
Amazing what a few steaks, burgers and beers will get us chatting about, even though a few of them got "upset" talking about subjects like this.
Howdy, and welcome to this interesting place.
OT: Really, I hope for something better than all this mess. I hope for a better life, a better chance, and a better way for everything. I hope my damned heart out that things turn out better.
Personally, I expect the worst. I am either doomed to the worse way to stay "dead" possible, or will just simply cease to be. No more thinking, feeling, existing....nothing.
Always makes me wonder what non-existence is like, actually.
OT: Really, I hope for something better than all this mess. I hope for a better life, a better chance, and a better way for everything. I hope my damned heart out that things turn out better.
Personally, I expect the worst. I am either doomed to the worse way to stay "dead" possible, or will just simply cease to be. No more thinking, feeling, existing....nothing.
Always makes me wonder what non-existence is like, actually.