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Plasmadamage

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I think the best bet is to set the new movies during the Yhuzan Vong invasion. You could keep the old characters, but they would be a lot older and have different roles.

E.G. Luke is now the Jedi master, so he takes the role of Yoda/ Old Ben, Han is now an Admiral,I think.

You could use it to introduce some new characters, like Master Durron (look it up)

The main characters would be Han and Leia's children Jacen and Jaina, and the series could chart the Vong war and Jacens eventual rise to Darth Caedus.
 

Hoplon

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Plasmadamage said:
I think the best bet is to set the new movies during the Yhuzan Vong invasion. You could keep the old characters, but they would be a lot older and have different roles.

E.G. Luke is now the Jedi master, so he takes the role of Yoda/ Old Ben, Han is now an Admiral,I think.

You could use it to introduce some new characters, like Master Durron (look it up)

The main characters would be Han and Leia's children Jacen and Jaina, and the series could chart the Vong war and Jacens eventual rise to Darth Caedus.
And this is why I am thankful they will never never touch the Expanded Universe.
 

Plasmadamage

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Hoplon said:
Plasmadamage said:
I think the best bet is to set the new movies during the Yhuzan Vong invasion. You could keep the old characters, but they would be a lot older and have different roles.

E.G. Luke is now the Jedi master, so he takes the role of Yoda/ Old Ben, Han is now an Admiral,I think.

You could use it to introduce some new characters, like Master Durron (look it up)

The main characters would be Han and Leia's children Jacen and Jaina, and the series could chart the Vong war and Jacens eventual rise to Darth Caedus.
And this is why I am thankful they will never never touch the Expanded Universe.
I actually prefer the expanded universe, since it elaborates on a lot of things that were only vaugely hinted at in the movies, pluss it introduces a lot of new characters.

But that's just me
 

Hoplon

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Plasmadamage said:
I actually prefer the expanded universe, since it elaborates on a lot of things that were only vaguely hinted at in the movies, plus it introduces a lot of new characters.

But that's just me
It's also why it's bad, those things being vaguely hinted at mean you can let your brain fill in the blanks rather than have some hack badly explain it to you.

Which strangely is why the prequels where bad.

So thanks but no thanks.
 

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I know it's a long shot, but I always thought Kyle Katarn (for those of you who played the old jedi knight series) would make an excellent centerpoit for the story. Practically follows the Star Wars formula. His dad died (seriously) he has a suggler-esque friend/romantic interest (Jan) he has to kill 7 dark jedi and Jarec makes an excellent villain. A lot of material to pull from. But I doubt Disney will follow the extended Universe and make something completely original. Sad day for canon, but still.
 

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I started thinking about it when I caught then end of a "The Clone Wars" episode and wondered "If this is canon why the fuck has nobody ever brought-up Asokha? And what happens to her during Order 66? Will she die? Hide?"
Hit the nail on the head. Asokha is the only reason I watch The Clone Wars. Okay, maybe not the only reason (it is Star Wars, after all), but it's the main reason. I thought that exact same ting when her character was revealed. I remember one of the producers saying that The Clone Wars was Asokha's story. For a series about her, she sure doesn't get a lot of screen time it seems. It always seems to be about Anakin or Obi and she's just along for the ride. And that's boring because we know, no matter how bleak the situation looks, those two are going to be fine. Asokha on the other hand...
My friend and I have come up with a few theories about what could happen to her.

1) She dies saving someone. I can't see the T.V. show doing this, killing off a child character in the final episode, but it's possible. Still doesn't explain why no one ever talks about her though. If someone died to save you, you'd probably remember that person.

2) She is expelled from the Order, or she quits. This could be interesting. Asokha has done some...questionable things in the Clone Wars and said a few things that don't exactly follow the Jedi Order--all thanks to her 'Master' no doubt. So what if she screws up so bad that they kick her out? She is stripped of her Jedi title and is sent away, and because of this shame, no one ever talks about her. Again, seems a little dark for a kids show to end on, but it makes more sense than option one.

3) Asokha ascends, so to speak. They find some sort of Force storm crisis rip whatever, and it's reveal that only Asokha can fix the problem. However, in doing so she becomes something MORE, like how Anakin Solo just became pure Force. Asokha saves the galaxy, but in order to stop the possibility of the crisis happening again, the few who witnessed what happened are sworn to secrecy. That would be my pick.

Another question is what happens to Captain Rex. I can't see him turning on Asokha or any Jedi, yet he is part of the very unit that storms the Temple and guns everyone down. So...

As for Episode VII, I think what they should do--assuming they're not going to follow any of the books that have been written--is set the episode AFTER all the books. Make the movie about Ben Skywalker and Jaina Solo Fel. You can mention events that happened, thus pleasing all the people who love the books, but still have your original story. Plus, you can get new characters in and not have to worry about recasting Han, Luke, and Leia.
I'm actually very curious to see what route they take, because if they do it right, they can make nearly everyone happy. Do it wrong, and a lot of people are going to be annoyed at the least.
 

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Personally, I kind of hope they just jump a couple hundred years. Its long enough to skip past most, if not all, of the EU stuff, but no so long that you can't reference it if need be.
 

Hero in a half shell

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I think we all know what's best for the series:


But seriously, if we go back to Tatooine one more time I'm gonna be so mad.

The first thing we hear is Luke saying that it's the furthest point from the centre of anything interesting happening WHY DOES EVERY SINGLE STAR WARS THING HAVE TO SPEND A HUGE CHUNK OF ITS TIME IN THAT STINKING DESERT?!? IT'S A PLANET SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO BE BORING.

Whereas Felucia, probably the most interesting and alien planet in the movies gets 5 seconds show time.


What's that? You want to see the magical fungi planet of colourful death? Nope, here's a bloody desert.

[HEADING=1]It's everything I dreamed![/HEADING]
 

Twilight_guy

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A movie will be released. The general audience will form an opinion of it, perhaps say yeah or neh and it will blow over for them in a few months. A number of Star Wars geeks will also react. If the movie was bad or mediocre, they will ***** for 10-20 years (I wonder if there wil be forums in the next decade or if we will have the hyper-net with virtual avatar bitching) if its good, they will note it, probably ***** that the other movies were so bad and why couldn't they have done this earlier while not letting the new movie go for 10-20 years. Either way, the franchise stays probably more or less as a kinda noted historical icon while I have to listen to broken records forever and a day over this.

I wish some people would more quickly move on when this stuff happens, but people still ***** about episode 1 after... wow, its 13 years, harsh.
 

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I honestly think they should reboot the prequel trilogy and make some that aren't godawful, and then think about doing sequels in the same vein. Anything that acknowledges the prequels as canon is going to suffer for it.

Plus, doing a prequel reboot better than the actual prequels would be laughably easy and rake them in plenty of cash.
 

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Sniper Team 4 said:
Another question is what happens to Captain Rex. I can't see him turning on Asokha or any Jedi, yet he is part of the very unit that storms the Temple and guns everyone down. So...

As for Episode VII, I think what they should do--assuming they're not going to follow any of the books that have been written--is set the episode AFTER all the books. Make the movie about Ben Skywalker and Jaina Solo Fel. You can mention events that happened, thus pleasing all the people who love the books, but still have your original story. Plus, you can get new characters in and not have to worry about recasting Han, Luke, and Leia.
I'm actually very curious to see what route they take, because if they do it right, they can make nearly everyone happy. Do it wrong, and a lot of people are going to be annoyed at the least.
Rex is a Clone. They were Atlas-d when they were being raised, but instead of "would you kindly" forcing them to do what follows, "Order 66" means kill those fuckers with the bad-ass laser-swords.

Also, I've heard they were going with an unexplained third Skywalker (another sister). Meaning Anakin/Darth got busy post-Mustafar (I thought the lava burnt off his dick, but they have clones in this galaxy so w/e). I'd prefer Cade Skywaler. He's essentially Han + Luke.
 

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Twilight_guy said:
A movie will be released. The general audience will form an opinion of it, perhaps say yeah or neh and it will blow over for them in a few months. A number of Star Wars geeks will also react. If the movie was bad or mediocre, they will ***** for 10-20 years (I wonder if there wil be forums in the next decade or if we will have the hyper-net with virtual avatar bitching) if its good, they will note it, probably ***** that the other movies were so bad and why couldn't they have done this earlier while not letting the new movie go for 10-20 years. Either way, the franchise stays probably more or less as a kinda noted historical icon while I have to listen to broken records forever and a day over this.

I wish some people would more quickly move on when this stuff happens, but people still ***** about episode 1 after... wow, its 13 years, harsh.
Yeah nerds tend to do that. If you're a nerd, you have an obsession, and when you have an obsession you've dedicated YEARS of your life to, it's kinda hard to let even trivial shit go. Like: Midichlorians. Turning magic into science pissed a lot of people off. I don't get why, because the Lightsaber is magical science. I guess removing the one source of wonder and imagination from an other-wise explainable universe would be like disproving God to a Christian. It'd hurt.

Are you really telling me, that you don't hold anything sacred enough that a garbage-ass addition, which is totally canon and can't be ret-coned, to your favorite IP wouldn't make you angry for a few years? I moved on a long time ago. I started this thread as a discussion for the new one, not to dwell on the past. I just got to thinking of a ret-con because of timeline inaccuracies within The Clone Wars animated series. Frankly, if they reboot it, and the opening crawl for the first movie mentions midichlorians I wouldn't even be mad.
 

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Twilight_guy said:
A movie will be released. The general audience will form an opinion of it, perhaps say yeah or neh and it will blow over for them in a few months. A number of Star Wars geeks will also react. If the movie was bad or mediocre, they will ***** for 10-20 years (I wonder if there wil be forums in the next decade or if we will have the hyper-net with virtual avatar bitching) if its good, they will note it, probably ***** that the other movies were so bad and why couldn't they have done this earlier while not letting the new movie go for 10-20 years. Either way, the franchise stays probably more or less as a kinda noted historical icon while I have to listen to broken records forever and a day over this.

I wish some people would more quickly move on when this stuff happens, but people still ***** about episode 1 after... wow, its 13 years, harsh.
Yeah nerds tend to do that. If you're a nerd, you have an obsession, and when you have an obsession you've dedicated YEARS of your life to, it's kinda hard to let even trivial shit go. Like: Midichlorians. Turning magic into science pissed a lot of people off. I don't get why, because the Lightsaber is magical science. I guess removing the one source of wonder and imagination from an other-wise explainable universe would be like disproving God to a Christian. It'd hurt.

Are you really telling me, that you don't hold anything sacred enough that a garbage-ass addition, which is totally canon and can't be ret-coned, to your favorite IP wouldn't make you angry for a few years? I moved on a long time ago. I started this thread as a discussion for the new one, not to dwell on the past. I just got to thinking of a ret-con because of timeline inaccuracies within The Clone Wars animated series. Frankly, if they reboot it, and the opening crawl for the first movie mentions midichlorians I wouldn't even be mad.
 

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I have the impression that Lucas had said at some point said that his version of episodes 7-9 would cover the Thrawn trilogy(to tired to look that up though). I think it would be an interesting point to put the movies in the set cannon, still dealing with the empire but the major villains aren't Sith. Although this would still center on the major cast of the original trilogy, I don't think I would mind them just recasting (and hopefully not re releasing the originals with them copy and pasted in).

But I also don't see Disney shackling the story to the extended universe cannon. I would love if it was included, as I have been reading those since middle school.
 

Twilight_guy

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Owen Robertson said:
Twilight_guy said:
A movie will be released. The general audience will form an opinion of it, perhaps say yeah or neh and it will blow over for them in a few months. A number of Star Wars geeks will also react. If the movie was bad or mediocre, they will ***** for 10-20 years (I wonder if there wil be forums in the next decade or if we will have the hyper-net with virtual avatar bitching) if its good, they will note it, probably ***** that the other movies were so bad and why couldn't they have done this earlier while not letting the new movie go for 10-20 years. Either way, the franchise stays probably more or less as a kinda noted historical icon while I have to listen to broken records forever and a day over this.

I wish some people would more quickly move on when this stuff happens, but people still ***** about episode 1 after... wow, its 13 years, harsh.
Yeah nerds tend to do that. If you're a nerd, you have an obsession, and when you have an obsession you've dedicated YEARS of your life to, it's kinda hard to let even trivial shit go. Like: Midichlorians. Turning magic into science pissed a lot of people off. I don't get why, because the Lightsaber is magical science. I guess removing the one source of wonder and imagination from an other-wise explainable universe would be like disproving God to a Christian. It'd hurt.

Are you really telling me, that you don't hold anything sacred enough that a garbage-ass addition, which is totally canon and can't be ret-coned, to your favorite IP wouldn't make you angry for a few years? I moved on a long time ago. I started this thread as a discussion for the new one, not to dwell on the past. I just got to thinking of a ret-con because of timeline inaccuracies within The Clone Wars animated series. Frankly, if they reboot it, and the opening crawl for the first movie mentions midichlorians I wouldn't even be mad.
Huh, I have a mailbox full of messages... from the same guy...

No. Nothing has ever made me rage for more then a while. I'd hazard no more then like a month before I can get over anything. Stuff just doesn't bother me. Even if it does, adding something new doesn't ruin what existed and what I liked, only what may come to be.

I don't want to dwell on things either but the fact remains that the fans of Star Wars still contain the same group of people who are still raging. Judging from there past behavior, I bear little hope for the future. However, I am interested in how this franchise will play out in popular culture and seeing how it ends. Fan culture on its current level is relatively new development in human history and nobody is quiet sure how these things evolve and die.
 

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I would say they will end up going with the book story-line of Luke's marriage and son Ben. Meh, I would go and watch the Original Trilogy if they realise it to the big screen again but not sure if i would want to let myself go through the same disappointment again as when the brought out the pre-quels.
 

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Thrawn trilogy. Please. But no matter which way they cut it, there's gonna be major snarls in canon. One of the things I like about the Star Wars EU is that it's relatively constant. Sure, there's a few retcons here and there, and you've got various authors arguing with each other (hellooooo, Legacy of the Force) but overall it's one continuous timeline. Of course, this also means you're stuck with the shitty stuff (Legacy again) but you've got a consistent universe. The movies will, at best, just cut things short, but they'll probably rewrite canon. You're gonna get licensed media based on the movies, then either there's two timelines or they just cut off the old. Which could be good if the new stuff is good, but I'd rather stick to the devil I know.
 

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I was slogging through the replies on here when I realized that the responses were depressing me. You guys, the prequels, while in some instances grimace worthy, weren't as terrible as you all make them out to be. It was his story, and although some of the acting should have been better, it told the story it needed to. The problem is, everyone neglects to realize that Luke was a whiny ***** in Episode 4, and didn't get badass until the last quarter of Empire. No one liked the icon of Badassery Darth Vader turning out to be a whiny *****, but it actually makes sense that Anakin would be an emotional rollercoaster building into a downward spiral of death and destruction, before ultimately turning into that super-badass Darth Vader. That said, when it comes time to decide which is canon, do I throw out 140 novels that I literally spent thousands of dollars on, or a few movies that got made years later, which do you think I will prefer? The one that is better, of course.

Hell, the New Jedi Order was a reboot of sorts for the novels, making them far darker and more realistic than the previous happy-go-lucky, good-always-triumphs-and-no-one-we-love-will-ever-die stories they were into a truly gripping and entertaining series with a real threat of death looming on the horizon for all characters.

If the new movies can do that to my favorite anthology of all time, I welcome them to try.