Hehe, the cheap bastard thing was supposed to be a joke. Sarcasm doesn't travel very well over the internet ^^ No, but I know what you mean, since your culture doesn't do it, it makes sense you would find it...odd. "Here's some extra money for doing absolutely nothing!" But in all seriousness minimum wage here is like $7.30 (about...4.8 pounds) , and for people who are servers its lowered to like...$6.15 (4.1 pounds)Azure-Supernova said:Souplex said:*Gasp* You don't tip?! No wonder your country has no morals.
Your homework is to tip at least 20% on all your deliveries done in a timely manner for the rest of your life.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.88037-Keep-the-change#1338439It's not like I've made a point in not tipping. It's just not something anyone I've seen do over here in England. A waiter brings our food (his job) and then we pay and leave. The pizza guy brings me my pizza, I pay for my pizza and he leaves. As far as I'm concerned, a 'Thank you' is plenty enough for them doing their job. This being said, the minumum wage here and there must be a significant difference...Mezmer said:Not tipping is considered very out of the ordinary and quite rude here in America. Most people who take tips (all the food servers) make their salary off of them. It's sad but true. In fact, if your job takes tips, you can be paid UNDER minimum wage. So be courteous and add that extra 20% you cheap bastard.
Yeah - here we have the minimum wage laws applying to them, and so tipping is not necessary like it is in the US. Don't worry about it. I mean, sure it can be nice to leave a tip for exceptional service, but you're not actually harming the person in the same way you would be if you didn't tip in the US.Azure-Supernova said:Souplex said:*Gasp* You don't tip?! No wonder your country has no morals.
Your homework is to tip at least 20% on all your deliveries done in a timely manner for the rest of your life.
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.88037-Keep-the-change#1338439It's not like I've made a point in not tipping. It's just not something anyone I've seen do over here in England. A waiter brings our food (his job) and then we pay and leave. The pizza guy brings me my pizza, I pay for my pizza and he leaves. As far as I'm concerned, a 'Thank you' is plenty enough for them doing their job. This being said, the minumum wage here and there must be a significant difference...Mezmer said:Not tipping is considered very out of the ordinary and quite rude here in America. Most people who take tips (all the food servers) make their salary off of them. It's sad but true. In fact, if your job takes tips, you can be paid UNDER minimum wage. So be courteous and add that extra 20% you cheap bastard.
I got it... trust me I got the joke :3 And I guess that sucks. The reason I ask is that I'm hopefully taking a trip to the US in December and was just wondering if it's as normal as I've seen it on TV.Mezmer said:Hehe, the cheap bastard thing was supposed to be a joke. Sarcasm doesn't travel very well over the internet ^^ No, but I know what you mean, since your culture doesn't do it, it makes sense you would find it...odd. "Here's some extra money for doing absolutely nothing!" But in all seriousness minimum wage here is like $7.30 (about...4.8 pounds) , and for people who are servers its lowered to like...$6.15 (4.1 pounds)
Nope, I can honestly say that I've never had any issues from not tipping. In fact, I go to a specific restaurant quite often and i've never had so much as a dirty look. On another note, a friend of mine is a waiter after his college hours and he never gets tipped and he doesn't seem to mind.Defective_Detective said:Huh? That's really odd that you've never encountered this before in the UK. It's something that's expected in most restaurants. You are typically supposed to tip around 10%. As mentioned before most waiters and waitresses live off tips.
They wouldn't be so reliant on them if they got a decent wage. I wouldn't personally feel responsible. I paid for my food and my drinks, that's what I came for and now I'm leaving.Sneaky-Pie said:Tipping is important as most waiters survive off those tips. Who am I to say, "Sorry, I'm not going to help you buy food this week."
Speaking as a former part-time waiter, you have no idea how much drudgery a team of waiting staff have to endure every day or night shift. There is so much more to do than just shifting some plates around.XT inc said:I dunno I am a logical being and I see tipping as a screwed up system. You buy yourself a big ass meal with you and your friends where customs dictate you pay say 20 bucks. Now less than minimal wage aside its hard to justify. I mean you already pay the extreme prices on food and then you have to tip.
The issue is that it isn't worth 20 dollars to deliver food and drinks to my table over the course of my meal. how much work was put in all in all 10 minutes? of picking up and delivering plates. I have to bust my ass for wages and these guys get 20 bucks because they did a sum total of 10 minutes of light servitude oh hell no.
No problem, hope you enjoy our country. Just avoid being sat on by fat people (we got a lot of em here). And thank you for the cookies (om nom nom)Azure-Supernova said:I got it... trust me I got the joke :3 And I guess that sucks. The reason I ask is that I'm hopefully taking a trip to the US in December and was just wondering if it's as normal as I've seen it on TV.Mezmer said:Hehe, the cheap bastard thing was supposed to be a joke. Sarcasm doesn't travel very well over the internet ^^ No, but I know what you mean, since your culture doesn't do it, it makes sense you would find it...odd. "Here's some extra money for doing absolutely nothing!" But in all seriousness minimum wage here is like $7.30 (about...4.8 pounds) , and for people who are servers its lowered to like...$6.15 (4.1 pounds)
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and having worked at warehouses, heavy lifting, busting ass I feel that bad systems of shuffling meals between 4 groups who typically follow the 15% rule doesn't warrant earning 10-20 bucks per group plus salary. sorry but thats just how I feel.Defective_Detective said:Speaking as a former part-time waiter, you have no idea how much drudgery a team of waiting staff have to endure every day or night shift. There is so much more to do than just shifting some plates around.XT inc said:I dunno I am a logical being and I see tipping as a screwed up system. You buy yourself a big ass meal with you and your friends where customs dictate you pay say 20 bucks. Now less than minimal wage aside its hard to justify. I mean you already pay the extreme prices on food and then you have to tip.
The issue is that it isn't worth 20 dollars to deliver food and drinks to my table over the course of my meal. how much work was put in all in all 10 minutes? of picking up and delivering plates. I have to bust my ass for wages and these guys get 20 bucks because they did a sum total of 10 minutes of light servitude oh hell no.
Really? Because I can speak to literally any of my family or friends and they'll agree with me that paying someone for something they're already getting paid to do, is near pointless. Is it my fault that these people don't get paid enough? Why should I feel obliged to give them a few extra pennies to count, more so if it's a place I don't usually visit.Sturmdolch said:I always give 15% and I'll round up or add a bit more if they're really good. If they really suck, and I mean really suck, I'll give them less. I think the lowest I've tipped was around 5% but that was a one-time thing where the food didn't come and the waitress was very rude.
In Canada and the US, tipping 15% is the norm. If you don't and the waiter wasn't bad, you're a douche. Sorry to break it to you, but the whole "I don't believe in tipping" doesn't hold up when they rely on tipping as part of their wage. I wish it was a flat rate, too, but that's not how it works, no matter what the guy in Reservoir Dogs said. And as a note for that scene, everyone turned against him when he said he doesn't believe in tipping. Guess what? That's how the real world is, too.