Tipping
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Basic rule of thumb is that if you're somewhere that has a tipping culture, especially if it forms part of the basis for the wages of the serving staff, then you bloody well tip, you tightfisted bastard.
If you're somewhere that doesn't have a tipping culture, especially if serving staff are paid a living wage (as in enough to live on), then only do it if you want to or feel the service has been exceptional... but if you do, make it a proper tip.
Back in the days when I had cash, me and my mates would regularly hit up the same restaurant and because we were pretty free with our cash (20+% tip plus each of the 10 or so of us would pony $2 per person that served our table, so that was usually an extra $60 laid out as well) we always got a table and almost always got our usual table, service was fast as, and no request was ever refused point blank.
Moral of the story? Cashed up wankers who share the love but still behave themselves get incredible service for a reason.
If you're somewhere that doesn't have a tipping culture, especially if serving staff are paid a living wage (as in enough to live on), then only do it if you want to or feel the service has been exceptional... but if you do, make it a proper tip.
Back in the days when I had cash, me and my mates would regularly hit up the same restaurant and because we were pretty free with our cash (20+% tip plus each of the 10 or so of us would pony $2 per person that served our table, so that was usually an extra $60 laid out as well) we always got a table and almost always got our usual table, service was fast as, and no request was ever refused point blank.
Moral of the story? Cashed up wankers who share the love but still behave themselves get incredible service for a reason.
There's a difference between being polite and throwing my money away. I'm not against thanking someone, but tipping just doesn't sit with me and probably never will.burntheartist said:
Waiters and Waitress's don't need money? I'll freely admit in some restaraunts, the staff are paid quite decently, but others are really forced to beg and scrape for all the cash they can.Girl With One Eye said:
It depends on the business. Some staff are paid a decent wage, and tips are a nice extra. Some staff are paid on the assumption they will be raking in X amount of tips every night. In some restaraunts, the tips are collected and split up collectively, with management getting thier own cut.
Personally I hate the third option the most. It means slackers and shirkers are getting the same amount of tips as people who genuinely want to work hard. Not to mention sleazy managers who always get the Lion's Share...
I'm not sure if anyone has brought this up yet but my man Steve Buscemi said it best.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
I do tip though, 15% for good service, 10% for ok, and 0% for shit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-qV9wVGb38
I do tip though, 15% for good service, 10% for ok, and 0% for shit
Funnily enough this was the scene I was watching when I decided to start this thread...Kefkacultist said:
I've got to say, I am an incredibly tight fisted person. The only people I give money to are buskers... because the ones in town usually play some damn good music and it makes my shopping experience a lot more pleasant. Even then it's the odd shrapnel in the back pocket.
But it's not like I even have the money to be giving away in tips in the first place, I'm earning, but next to nothing because it's an apprentice's wage. I fix people's shit all the time and I'm lucky if I get a thank you, know why? Because it's my job and I'm paid to do it already.
But it's not like I even have the money to be giving away in tips in the first place, I'm earning, but next to nothing because it's an apprentice's wage. I fix people's shit all the time and I'm lucky if I get a thank you, know why? Because it's my job and I'm paid to do it already.
1. Yes.
2. If they were good, around five dollars. If not, then one dollar at the most. I know, five is almost fifty percent on some bills, and one is still generous on small orders, but going by percentages just leads to shitty tips.
3. Being a waiter or waitress at a restaurant is one of the worst jobs in Western society, and it pays exactly fuck-all, too. Tips can mean the difference between "scraping a living in a crappy apartment" and "dead in an alley with no socks" to a lot of people.
2. If they were good, around five dollars. If not, then one dollar at the most. I know, five is almost fifty percent on some bills, and one is still generous on small orders, but going by percentages just leads to shitty tips.
3. Being a waiter or waitress at a restaurant is one of the worst jobs in Western society, and it pays exactly fuck-all, too. Tips can mean the difference between "scraping a living in a crappy apartment" and "dead in an alley with no socks" to a lot of people.
I always try to tip the cops 10% of whatever the fine they've just hit me with is and they act all insulted.
Depends on the state you live in. In several states I have lived in Tips are not allowed to make up any part of a service workers wages. All states require at least minimum wage as well, so if the tips don't add up to at least the states minimum wage the buisness has to make up for it.AjimboB said:
Your message just comes across like you think if they didn't get tips they would only be paid a few dollars an hour or something.
It's more commonly 20% here. Head on over to Seattle and you can be expected to tip anywhere from 20-25%. On top of the fact that tips are not allowed to make up any part of a servers wages. Bunch of well paid bastards around here. We also have the highest minimum wage in the country.Dags90 said:
Yeah that's right you hippies in Oregon, we are beating you on that was well. They are always so smug, trying to pretend Portland is better then Seattle.
OT: I tip for service. I absolutely hate those tip jars that are popping up everywhere. No you don't get a tip for bagging my purchases, asses.
I also tip the nice, very perky young girls that serve me coffee most mornings. I would tip them more but they make a killing. The ones the work the morning rush can pull in total wages on the plus side of $35 an hour. The only time I made that much was when I am pretty sure I was employed by a front for organized crime. I make a lot now, but it's still not that much per hour when you factor in all the hours I put in.
Believe me, some waiting staff would be on the street if they didn't get consistent tips. Like I said, it varies wildly depending on the business, but generally waiting staff get a hard time for little thanks or pay.Girl With One Eye said:
Now wouldn't that be something to behold...RhombusHatesYou said:
Cop: "Can you step out of the vehicle sir."
Me: "What's the problem officer?"
Cop: "You paid your fine right?"
Me: "Yeah, all of it. Is there a problem?"
Cop: *slams my face off the bonnet* "Yeah, you missed off ten percent *****!"
This being said... I'm sure cops get paid enough without needing tips from fines anyway haha
1. Depends where i am, if i'm travelling somewhere where its accepted then always.
2. Depends. 5%-10% is the rule i think.
3. Absolutely, I've got a friend overseas working as a waitress and thats how she makes her living.
2. Depends. 5%-10% is the rule i think.
3. Absolutely, I've got a friend overseas working as a waitress and thats how she makes her living.
You are now my hero.RhombusHatesYou said:
1. I do, in fact.
2. Between 15% and 20% depending on service.
3. Most definitely. Out here (AZ) the waitresses are paid a wage based on an assumed 15% tip from every customer, so that with that 15% and what they're making, they should be making minimum wage. It's a shitty way to do things but that's how it works. I had friends making $3 hourly before tips, while I was getting just over $5 for doing less work in the same place. This was a few years ago though.
Not to mention that it's a nice way of saying "You're doing a good job."
Freaked out the tattoo artist I went to in New Zealand when I gave him a tip, totally forgot they didn't tip there.
2. Between 15% and 20% depending on service.
3. Most definitely. Out here (AZ) the waitresses are paid a wage based on an assumed 15% tip from every customer, so that with that 15% and what they're making, they should be making minimum wage. It's a shitty way to do things but that's how it works. I had friends making $3 hourly before tips, while I was getting just over $5 for doing less work in the same place. This was a few years ago though.
Not to mention that it's a nice way of saying "You're doing a good job."
Freaked out the tattoo artist I went to in New Zealand when I gave him a tip, totally forgot they didn't tip there.
They definitely don't tip in New Zealand... although I'm not sure what their position on tepping is.Zeeky_Santos said:
Didn't you just say that tipping in England isn't the norm? It is in Canada. It's not really the same then, is it? Unless your family and friends live in Canada that is. Different countries, different cultures.Azure-Supernova said:
If you do come to Canada, go ahead and don't tip. I don't really care. You're the one that looks like the stereotype of an Englishman. Not that it matters since you'll never see the people again, but that's a pretty sorry attitude. And then yes, it is your fault they don't get paid enough. The system is supposed to be that they get paid enough if their service if good. If it is and you aren't tipping, you're just ruining someone's day for no good reason.