I'd doubt something would restore it, specially after what I've gone through. But who knows, maybe someday it will be restored, but it may take years...subject_87 said:
To anyone who has 'lost their faith in humanity'
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Wow someone's biased.gunheads said:
Let me be frank with you; if you think 95% of Americans are idiot religious fundamentalists, fuck if you even think 95% of American are even following the same god damn religion, you are an ignorant idiot. I don't normally lash out at people over the internet, but god damn that was terrible.
Maybe I'll assume 95% of the people in the UK are chavs.
That's actually what I was thinking. How can you lose ALL faith in humanity when there are over 6 billion of us and a fair amount of these people are actually very good. I would only lose faith in humanity if there was no good people or good things. But I don't see that happening, ever.The Blue Mongoose said:
A few things to consider when asking about one's faith in humanity.
To begin with, "faith" is belief without evidence. So by definition, if you "have faith in humanity" than that means you simply believe in humanity and should not feel the need to back that up. Now, the atheist community has verified that a major pratfall to faith (in anything, doesn't have to be religion) is that it fails when one introduces "reason" into the mix. This to be remember as we progress further into the discussion.
Now, my own beliefs on humanity one might wonder? Its simple really. Any given human is one of two things: their either an outright monster or an outright dipshit. This I can back up too. There have been studies done over the years that have proven that humans are highly conformist people whom have tunnel vision and are cowards that follow the leader with blind faith so they don't die or worse. Garbage in the media sells for a reason, and studies show that we don't like nice people, and that we, knowingly or not, discrimate against others for the stupidest reasons.
That's just the dipshit aspect covered. Nevermind the fact that our world leaders, politicians, business folk, barons, and bureaucrats benifit from the vast majority of us living in misery, despair, poverty, and undignitly and therefore the vary people with the power (the aforementioned) have no insentive to change anything.
Now, I know you might be thinking that this means more than I simply lost faith in the human race: I'm an outright misanthrope. You would be right: by definition this would make me a misanthrope.
Now, someone has already mentioned the "If you lost faith in humanity you have to have lost faith in yourself." Now, here's the deal. I'm not a powerful person. I'm not a strong person, neither of body or mind. I'm not a particularly pretty person. I'm a deadbeat living in their parents' house that is destined to die a pennyless, forgotten nobody. I'm refuse just like the rest of you out there. Oh, and I'm also likely not a particularly nice person.
You wouldn't have to look any further then your favourite news feed to know just how horrible our world is, and how it amazes me that to be happy in it you have stupify yourself by playing stupid games and being chemically impaired.
To answer subject_87's question of what it would take to restore my faith in humanity, I would like to point to the second paragraph and stat that by definition I can't have faith in humanity because I've already concluded with reason that humanity is scum and reason trumps faith, period. However, you're likely more intereted in what it would take for someone to like humanity and look at the race more favourably and optimistically. All you would need to do is, well, prove me wrong.
To begin with, "faith" is belief without evidence. So by definition, if you "have faith in humanity" than that means you simply believe in humanity and should not feel the need to back that up. Now, the atheist community has verified that a major pratfall to faith (in anything, doesn't have to be religion) is that it fails when one introduces "reason" into the mix. This to be remember as we progress further into the discussion.
Now, my own beliefs on humanity one might wonder? Its simple really. Any given human is one of two things: their either an outright monster or an outright dipshit. This I can back up too. There have been studies done over the years that have proven that humans are highly conformist people whom have tunnel vision and are cowards that follow the leader with blind faith so they don't die or worse. Garbage in the media sells for a reason, and studies show that we don't like nice people, and that we, knowingly or not, discrimate against others for the stupidest reasons.
That's just the dipshit aspect covered. Nevermind the fact that our world leaders, politicians, business folk, barons, and bureaucrats benifit from the vast majority of us living in misery, despair, poverty, and undignitly and therefore the vary people with the power (the aforementioned) have no insentive to change anything.
Now, I know you might be thinking that this means more than I simply lost faith in the human race: I'm an outright misanthrope. You would be right: by definition this would make me a misanthrope.
Now, someone has already mentioned the "If you lost faith in humanity you have to have lost faith in yourself." Now, here's the deal. I'm not a powerful person. I'm not a strong person, neither of body or mind. I'm not a particularly pretty person. I'm a deadbeat living in their parents' house that is destined to die a pennyless, forgotten nobody. I'm refuse just like the rest of you out there. Oh, and I'm also likely not a particularly nice person.
You wouldn't have to look any further then your favourite news feed to know just how horrible our world is, and how it amazes me that to be happy in it you have stupify yourself by playing stupid games and being chemically impaired.
To answer subject_87's question of what it would take to restore my faith in humanity, I would like to point to the second paragraph and stat that by definition I can't have faith in humanity because I've already concluded with reason that humanity is scum and reason trumps faith, period. However, you're likely more intereted in what it would take for someone to like humanity and look at the race more favourably and optimistically. All you would need to do is, well, prove me wrong.
Is Valve really the best reason for one to have lost all faith in humanity? This has been mentioned previously by others posting to this thread, (and I thank you for allowing me to hold onto some hope that there may well be a few intelligent people somewhere out there,) but it is an important issue. It needs to be brought to the table.
The internet & TV would both have to die & cut me off from hearing about & seeing all the stupidity, or I could just travel back in time to the 80s.
Maybe, once we manage to eliminate religion and the extremist followers thereof, without removing the positive values of religion that teach people how to behave, then maybe we will have hope.
Maybe, once we remove the anti-intellectualism from our societies (America in particular). It's simply wrong that a child who is ahead of his grade will be made fun of as opposed to praised. In America, our schools aspire to the lowest common denominator: the kids from poorer backgrounds who either don't give a shit or don't have knowledge gained from family members.
Maybe, once we remove the anti-intellectualism from our societies (America in particular). It's simply wrong that a child who is ahead of his grade will be made fun of as opposed to praised. In America, our schools aspire to the lowest common denominator: the kids from poorer backgrounds who either don't give a shit or don't have knowledge gained from family members.
I dunno, I don't remember a time when I had faith in anything. I make a lot of investments in my life and faith isn't the kind I ever make.
I invest a lot of time and effort in fellow human beings and their well-being because they are
1. pretty much necessary for my survival
2. sufficiently predictable, and
3. fascinating.
I invest a lot of time and effort in fellow human beings and their well-being because they are
1. pretty much necessary for my survival
2. sufficiently predictable, and
3. fascinating.
The progress of Mankind continues to accelerate, and whilst there are distinctive threats to civil society I doubt (barring some catastrophe) that that progress will cease anytime soon. We've systematically eradicated diseases that were once fatal afflictions. Mutual enemies have found new purpose and commonality in trade and capitalism. There is ever greater opportunities to amass wealth beyond measure.
What exactly is there to lose hope in? Except for a few hiccups, the quality of life has generally improved across the board as time moves on.
That improvement isn't just going to end for as long as there are true believers. Believers in the magic of the marketplace and the beauty of Mankind's will to achieve ever greater heights of civilization and self-improvement.
What exactly is there to lose hope in? Except for a few hiccups, the quality of life has generally improved across the board as time moves on.
That improvement isn't just going to end for as long as there are true believers. Believers in the magic of the marketplace and the beauty of Mankind's will to achieve ever greater heights of civilization and self-improvement.
Ya I honestly think I considered buying a gun when I saw that promoted on IMDB I've never been so angry at just the general populace before just sooooooo much anger.Too restore my faith it'd take a Stevie Ray Vaughan movie.scatmanfan said:
Honestly, I too used to be a Thomas Hobbes man, you know, all men are created evil, that kinda thing.
The thing that changed my mind is meeting my wife. I know her and the inner workings of her mind extremely well (obviously, to be close enough in the relationship to get married), and she is literally the good-est person in the world. I'm talking D&D True Good Alignment good. She not only is a good person in her actions, but her brain seems incapable of evil thought. So if she can exist, other naturally good people can exist too.
Also this:
The thing that changed my mind is meeting my wife. I know her and the inner workings of her mind extremely well (obviously, to be close enough in the relationship to get married), and she is literally the good-est person in the world. I'm talking D&D True Good Alignment good. She not only is a good person in her actions, but her brain seems incapable of evil thought. So if she can exist, other naturally good people can exist too.
Also this:
Seriously, the phrase "I have lost my faith in humanity" is a very high school smart but picked on kid thing to say. Give it a few years and you'll see whylacktheknack said:
Well, but the thing is, that when a teacher you know edumacates... er educates someone it's doing more good then a sport star is. Let's just say a teacher teaches 400 or so in their teaching career. (Sound fair?!) The thing is that those people will go on to do work that they wouldn't have been able to do if it wasn't for education, and of course the things that these people make/do, will in turn affect countless others, and of course if even a few turn to teaching because of it, they will turn educate others who will do the same, and it'll just keep snowballing. (If you get what I mean)Father Time said:
Whereas a sports star may entertain a million of people but that will only last for a few hours or so... whereas an education will last a lifetime... well... minus you know brain damage and what not... (I'm not saying sport stars are useless... far from it, it's just that I think teachers are way more important.)