I feel similar rage whenever somebody from outside my city or country talks negatively about/ insults it.SuperMse said:OT: Speaking of people from Seattle, this type of regional stereotyping isn't exclusive to international conflicts. I'm from Indiana, and am currently attending college in Indiana, and it annoys me the way some of the students from about of State speak about this place. It's not perfect, and God knows I've insulted it plenty of times, but I tend to get irritated when a bunch of my friends just have a giant Indiana bashing session. Even worse is when they make fun of the populace here- occasionally they'll ask me to do my impersonation of a "redneck," as they consider it to be a spot on representation of people from the South/Midwest. The thing is, my "redneck" is one of the most exaggerated impressions I do.Furburt said:This wasn't in the middle of nowhere either, this was in Seattle.
Love thy neighbour indeedColdStorage said:Its a neighbourly thing too, the English rib on Scots/welsh and Irish, the Yanks (ho ho, generalisation!) rib the Canadians and in France its a legal requirement to take the piss out of the Belgiums.Furburt said:Still, it's basic human nature. If there's a country, thousands of miles away from you, unless you're very interested, you aren't going to know much about their country except for a few basic archetypes. When this becomes a problem, is when you start treating people differently because of it.
Well then surely we both speak English with a 1% differential by that logic?savandicus said:The thing is though that people using slang or regional versions of english in yorkshire is expected. Evolution of language is a constant thing, all langauges change over time. If yorkshire people have enough people saying words that have accepted meanings it becomes part of English. The problem being that if an American person were to do that it wouldnt become part of english it would become part of the american language. I'm not saying we speak COMPLETELY different languages, but right now American and English are different languages that share 99% of the same words.Jenova65 said:Actually, no, Americans use some different words for things but it is English and tbh English people are far more guilty of 'bastardising', the language than Americans do.
It is like saying that people in Yorkshire speak a different language to people in London, we all speak English but idiom is responsible for many of the differences.
What have the Americans done to Spanish now?PaulH said:Apart from their butchering of the most widespread of the Romance languages I have little against Americans.
I went to a school that had less than 30 students. I know my Strine, even though I have a more cultivated/general family accent.RhomCo said:I see you've taken Introduction to Strine.Silva said:Too right, mate. Bloody true blue, fair dinkum. Streuth!
And cultivated, general, and the Western Australian style... But yes, a great many speak Strine. Even if none of them ever set foot in the cities where the majority of the population lives.RhomCo said:Australians speak Strine.Vitor Goncalves said:So if u track down english to the late 18th century the english by then was neither the same as present day british english, or american, australian, canadian, new zealander, south african, caribbean, indian, etc.
I really wish people would quit linking to TVtropes it takes forever to get out once you get inSilva said:I went to a school that had less than 30 students. I know my Strine, even though I have a more cultivated/general family accent.RhomCo said:I see you've taken Introduction to Strine.Silva said:Too right, mate. Bloody true blue, fair dinkum. Streuth!
And cultivated, general, and the Western Australian style... But yes, a great many speak Strine. Even if none of them ever set foot in the cities where the majority of the population lives.RhomCo said:Australians speak Strine.Vitor Goncalves said:So if u track down english to the late 18th century the english by then was neither the same as present day british english, or american, australian, canadian, new zealander, south african, caribbean, indian, etc.
TV Tropes proves itself useful once again:
http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/AustralianAccent
So, um, are you saying people with Texan accents ride horses to school? 'Cause...ace_of_something said:I was actually, pretty offended by them than presuming I was a hayseed bumpkin who was ignorant, conservative, bible-thumper who rode a horse to school and grew up near a swamp. They also assumed that I was ignorant with the ways of the world as a whole.
Given that half of English (particularly the qualifier 'multi' fro mthe latin 'multus') is made of 'Sermo Vulgi' as termed by Cicero ....? AlotRhomCo said:What have the Americans done to Spanish now?PaulH said:Apart from their butchering of the most widespread of the Romance languages I have little against Americans.
Evolution of language doesn't necessarily occur in a positive direction, particularly when ignorance and stupidity are the social norms of the day.Jenova65 said:I respectfully disagree, I fail to see words like ''Innit' that as an 'evolution' ;-)Layzor said:Sorry matey but the English language has been evolving in England for about a thousand years or so, something that it is continuing to do today. That means that however it evolves in England is correct.
I'm not trying to be confrontational or arrogant but america wasn't our only colony, it's just the biggest and one of the youngest, the only one that won't accept second place for anything.
If you know your Strine then how come you can't spell strewth?Silva said:I went to a school that had less than 30 students. I know my Strine, even though I have a more cultivated/general family accent.RhomCo said:I see you've taken Introduction to Strine.Silva said:Too right, mate. Bloody true blue, fair dinkum. Streuth!
Yes but English is still considered part of the Germanic language group.PaulH said:Given that half of English (particularly the qualifier 'multi' fro mthe latin 'multus') is made of 'Sermo Vulgi' as termed by Cicero ....? AlotRhomCo said:What have the Americans done to Spanish now?PaulH said:Apart from their butchering of the most widespread of the Romance languages I have little against Americans.
Even words and concepts born from Classical Latin isn't safe ... like 'aluminium' ... I weep <.<
Nope, we more often ride emu's to work actually. Kangaroos are a bit too bouncy and I don't fancy throwing up early in the morning.Agayek said:Wait a tic... You mean not all Australians are like that?!Labyrinth said:Gross stereotyping of any national culture is a foot in the face of common (or uncommon) sense. It happens to every country too. Speaking as a New Zealand and Australian citizen I'm either someone with an unusual interest in sheep or a thong (flip-flop for the Americans) wearing, kangaroo-riding, crocodile-wrestling outback badass to whom Paul Hogan is God and God is someone to curse for the flies.
The thing is stereotypes can be hellishly amusing when used in comedy, because within that framework they can be viewed as a deliberate fiction rather than a true representation. Outside of it they're kind of silly.
Dear God... the end is truly nigh.