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black lincon

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Spirultima said:
I agree, like in the case of Necro, he just made a single bad post, why not just a suspension, for 2-3 days? perma-ban seemed a bit harsh.

I'd like my name added to that list as well.
He had been suspended in the past and when he did it I believe he was on probation. It wasn't just once, it was the case of the straw that broke the camels back, except in this case it was a sack of potatoes.
 

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This thread is one of the reasons why I like the Escapist. If this was Gfaqs, it would be like:

Me: "This wasn't entirely fair...don't ya think?"
Moderator: "No."
Me: "But.... *400 character appeal*"
Moderator: "No. By the way, you have just lost your ability to appeal moderations. To avoid problems like this in the future, please never use this function again."
Me: *mmmpmh! mmpmmhmh! =X*

Escapist >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>gfaqs
 

devildog1170

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Yeah, some of the mods must be taking night courses from the mods over at gamefaqs. They put a guy on probation for simply saying 1st, quoting an Unskippable quote, and saying good job, in the new Unskippable Haze section. That just seems stupid.
 

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devildog1170 said:
Yeah, some of the mods must be taking night courses from the mods over at gamefaqs. They put a guy on probation for simply saying 1st, quoting an Unskippable quote, and saying good job, in the new Unskippable Haze section. That just seems stupid.
Welcome to the Escapist. "First" posts have always been moderatable offenses. Those are our forum guidelines.
 

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devildog1170 said:
Yeah, some of the mods must be taking night courses from the mods over at gamefaqs. They put a guy on probation for simply saying 1st, quoting an Unskippable quote, and saying good job, in the new Unskippable Haze section. That just seems stupid.
Against forum guidelines. It's quite simple how this works. You follow the guidelines they give you when you sign up, and they send you a message with a link to them and the message tells you to read them so you can't say you were never told. If you follow the guidelines your fine, it's not like they're unreasonable, you could sum most of them up as, "don't be a douche"
 

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The infamous SCAMola said:
ElephantGuts said:
And it's true that Kukul has said some intelligent or funny things (he's not as stupid as your average troll) and I could understand someone liking him if they haven't seen everything he's said. But he can be really offensive and a real asshole.
Does this have to do with his stance on Israel? I like Kukul, he's pretty fickin' funny, if slightly controversial.
More than slightly controversial. You have missed out on some...unpleasant conversations.

Would have been a lot more unpleasant if I had taken his obvious bait and played into his hand, continuing to argue with him over his denial of basic facts along with plenty of highly offensive statements.
 

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mshcherbatskaya said:
See above about the balance of intelligent conversation and bullshit asshattery. You are right - he was intelligent and funny. He was also a chronic racist, sexist, and homophobe. He generated a lot of negativity, too much negativity in the end. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.
I would say that's a pretty good, hell, perfect summary of the guy. Thank you.

EDIT: Didn't realize no one posted after me or I would have edited and not double posted. Sorry, I'm tired.
 
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ElephantGuts said:
mshcherbatskaya said:
See above about the balance of intelligent conversation and bullshit asshattery. You are right - he was intelligent and funny. He was also a chronic racist, sexist, and homophobe. He generated a lot of negativity, too much negativity in the end. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.
I would say that's a pretty good, hell, perfect summary of the guy. Thank you.
Wait, why does he say "I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did"? He's not gone, he's just been suspended for 90 days.

Anyway, you're right, the guy was an extreme anti-semite, islamophobe, sexist, homophobe, hypocrite and the like, but I think (at least in my opinion) it was a case of his beliefs being so outrageous that you were more likely to be amused by them rather than actually be offended.

Then again, I don't know what exchange of words took place between you two, so maybe I'm wrong.
 

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I find this thread to be very helpful. As I've said before, I trust the mods and from personal experience they only punish those who deserve it.

However if I can't see all of what is going on its, bad, doublely so when the person being punished is one I respect.

So let's see if I have this right.

Darth Mobius: He at first receved a three day punishment from a mod. Then after staff review he was banned because they decided he would continue to act in a disruptive way.

Necro: (Not sure about this) He after coming off a 7 day ban for personal attacks, made a thread ranting toward low-content threads. In a case of very poor luck a staff member was the first person to see this thread and Banned him. This was reviewed later and the ban was upheld.


Am I right so far?
 

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NecroSwanson got banned?... :*( He was so funny.
*sigh* sometimes it does seem that the modding can be a bit hard around here, but I know, I know straw N camel etc etc. *sigh*

I just hope we can all get along
 

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Cheeze_Pavilion said:
So to the mods: I think you're doing a great job, *especially* as of late; I see you're getting a lot of feedback from the community over it, and I'd just like to let you know that this Escapist member things you're on the right track, and is inspired by your actions as of late to up the quality of his posts and to try to uplift the level of the thread in general by his postings.
Seconded. You guys help us slough off the shit that so infects the rest of the 'net, and I thank you for that. I so want to bake a cake and send it to you guys now.

And a note: Cheeze, I never got all the hate against you. You always struck me as a perfectly rational fellow. I've seen you get a little huffy, but not nearly as much or as bad as some other members of this forum.

Maybe it's just cause a popular member of the forum had something against you that people started getting these ideas about 'cha.
 

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The infamous SCAMola said:
ElephantGuts said:
mshcherbatskaya said:
See above about the balance of intelligent conversation and bullshit asshattery. You are right - he was intelligent and funny. He was also a chronic racist, sexist, and homophobe. He generated a lot of negativity, too much negativity in the end. I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did.
I would say that's a pretty good, hell, perfect summary of the guy. Thank you.
Wait, why does he say "I'm surprised he lasted as long as he did"? He's not gone, he's just been suspended for 90 days.

Anyway, you're right, the guy was an extreme anti-semite, islamophobe, sexist, homophobe, hypocrite and the like, but I think (at least in my opinion) it was a case of his beliefs being so outrageous that you were more likely to be amused by them rather than actually be offended.

Then again, I don't know what exchange of words took place between you two, so maybe I'm wrong.
It was more of what he tried to do (troll me) and to what disgusting lengths he would go to do so. I am comforted by the fact that he never got to me and I like to think I gave him a hard time.

And it's a shame he's only been suspended for a mere 90 days. I'm sure it won't be too long until he's kicked back off though. Hopefully for good.
 

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I agree with most of the bans the mod's have done (well of people that I know more on here), Necro's ban was deserved after that last post I think, I don't know about Mobius since I've not been in a conversation with him etc.
But people that say 1st! when the vid just goes up annoys me and deserves prob'd, that's my opinion though and trolls obv >.> which the mod's do a good job of stomping out :D
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
slevin8989 said:
razer17 said:
i remember Necroswanson's and remember it being unjust, although i dont remember the actual post. so yeah, im going to agree that the banhammer has been used with a bit of, well, inequality.
edit - that equates to me wanting to be on the list please.

although darth mobius's i can understand, i saw some of his posts, they were quite extreme, as i think was the post he was actually banned for. (edit- maybe not perma-banned, but he was quite harsh from what i saw.)
I saw the topic Necroswanson made and it really didn't seem like he deserved to get banned for that. To me it looks like people have been getting banned for flimsy reasons.
iain62a said:
I actually thought the mods did the right thing in banning TheNecroSwanson.

His post was needlessly aggressive for no real reason, and in my opinion that deserves a ban.

I'm pretty sure he's been in trouble with the mods before this too.
I didn't see it as that i just saw it as he was venting a bit not to the extent to getting banned
If someone has a history of being banned for flaming people and being unnecessarily rude, and clearly has not learned his lesson? If it was someone's first offense, they wouldn't be permabanned. However, we have to take history into account.
This is not true. If you like I will post a link demonstating someone being perma banned for a first time offensive.
 

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Tehpwnsauce said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
slevin8989 said:
razer17 said:
i remember Necroswanson's and remember it being unjust, although i dont remember the actual post. so yeah, im going to agree that the banhammer has been used with a bit of, well, inequality.
edit - that equates to me wanting to be on the list please.

although darth mobius's i can understand, i saw some of his posts, they were quite extreme, as i think was the post he was actually banned for. (edit- maybe not perma-banned, but he was quite harsh from what i saw.)
I saw the topic Necroswanson made and it really didn't seem like he deserved to get banned for that. To me it looks like people have been getting banned for flimsy reasons.
iain62a said:
I actually thought the mods did the right thing in banning TheNecroSwanson.

His post was needlessly aggressive for no real reason, and in my opinion that deserves a ban.

I'm pretty sure he's been in trouble with the mods before this too.
I didn't see it as that i just saw it as he was venting a bit not to the extent to getting banned
If someone has a history of being banned for flaming people and being unnecessarily rude, and clearly has not learned his lesson? If it was someone's first offense, they wouldn't be permabanned. However, we have to take history into account.
This is not true. If you like I will post a link demonstating someone being perma banned for a first time offensive.
If the offense is grave enough, yes, we'll permaban on the first date. But more than likely the case in question is a ban jumper.
 

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Hmmm, this is actually the first that I'd heard about Empyrean, Mobius and The Necroswanson getting themselves banned. I guess it shows how much time I've been spending on the forum lately, I don't recognize half of you anymore...

Oh well, I can't really say anything about bans without coming across as a self-righteous moralizing jerk.
 

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Susan Arendt said:
Tehpwnsauce said:
CantFaketheFunk said:
slevin8989 said:
razer17 said:
i remember Necroswanson's and remember it being unjust, although i dont remember the actual post. so yeah, im going to agree that the banhammer has been used with a bit of, well, inequality.
edit - that equates to me wanting to be on the list please.

although darth mobius's i can understand, i saw some of his posts, they were quite extreme, as i think was the post he was actually banned for. (edit- maybe not perma-banned, but he was quite harsh from what i saw.)
I saw the topic Necroswanson made and it really didn't seem like he deserved to get banned for that. To me it looks like people have been getting banned for flimsy reasons.
iain62a said:
I actually thought the mods did the right thing in banning TheNecroSwanson.

His post was needlessly aggressive for no real reason, and in my opinion that deserves a ban.

I'm pretty sure he's been in trouble with the mods before this too.
I didn't see it as that i just saw it as he was venting a bit not to the extent to getting banned
If someone has a history of being banned for flaming people and being unnecessarily rude, and clearly has not learned his lesson? If it was someone's first offense, they wouldn't be permabanned. However, we have to take history into account.
This is not true. If you like I will post a link demonstating someone being perma banned for a first time offensive.
If the offense is grave enough, yes, we'll permaban on the first date. But more than likely the case in question is a ban jumper.
If this is the case then CantFaketheFunk needs to be clearer in his posts as that is not what he has said.
 

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Don't mind me. I'm just thinking out loud.

Moderation rules here don't appear to be any different from the forums I moderate elsewhere. There's plenty going on behind the scenes that people aren't aware of and - to be perfectly blunt - it's not generally considered to be good form to discuss the finer details of why somebody got their ass handed to them, regardless of whether you agree or not.

Put simply, being a longtime community member doesn't exempt you from the rules; if anything, it makes you more susceptible to them because you should know better. New people are more likely to be given some leeway because they don't know better.

Like I said, though, I'm just thinking out loud here.