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JimmyBassatti said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
JimmyBassatti said:
sirdanrhodes said:
If you have a long history with the mods and banning, then you deserve to be reviewed by the staff. I myself am lucky, the mods where a little nice on me, I have been on suspension or probation about seven or eight times whilst I have been here, and to be honest, I have admittedly done some stuff that I am surprised the mods did not act on!

One probation this year, I am NOT having another one.
What is a probation, may I ask? Can you still post, but your just watched more closely by the staff?
That's it, yeah. It's basically just a warning to remind you that the mods know what you post.
Thank you. I've never had one before, but I think I was close to getting one once :S
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Thank you, too, person above.
You'll most likely get a probation for what you thought of as a harmless joke. That's always what mine are. The real issue for some of us Escapists is simply misunderstanding.
 

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pimppeter2 said:
Can someone explain this

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.118296#2261331

Why was Kukul suspended? Did he write something then delete it? or did he really ask for it and receive it?
My best guess is that he requested a suspension because he was going away for a bit and didn't want his account misused in his absence.

I think he's medical student at some university, so I'm guessing that he's gone away for 3 months, maybe on some kind of work placement or summer holiday, and he couldn't be 100% sure that somebody else wouldn't hack his account and start causing trouble for him in his absence (I mean another student or house mate where he's at university, not another Escapist member).

A voluntary suspension is probably one of the best ways to ensure nobody can assume your identity and make post in your name.

I don't really know Kukul, but that's my best guess as to why he (or anyone) would request suspension for a set period of time.
 

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Alex_P said:
Does anyone here actually need a detailed explanation of why a post that ends with a list of personalized "Fuck Yous" to other users gets you a week off?
Seems like that is ban worthy, why wasn't she banned?
 

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JimmyBassatti said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
JimmyBassatti said:
Vanguard_Ex said:
JimmyBassatti said:
sirdanrhodes said:
If you have a long history with the mods and banning, then you deserve to be reviewed by the staff. I myself am lucky, the mods where a little nice on me, I have been on suspension or probation about seven or eight times whilst I have been here, and to be honest, I have admittedly done some stuff that I am surprised the mods did not act on!

One probation this year, I am NOT having another one.
What is a probation, may I ask? Can you still post, but your just watched more closely by the staff?
That's it, yeah. It's basically just a warning to remind you that the mods know what you post.
Thank you. I've never had one before, but I think I was close to getting one once :S
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Thank you, too, person above.
You'll most likely get a probation for what you thought of as a harmless joke. That's always what mine are. The real issue for some of us Escapists is simply misunderstanding.
I think Nicylpher [sp?] actually had worse plans. Me and him didn't see eye to eye...
Ah. I don't think he'll let it cloud his judgement. I hope, anyway.
 

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I've seen plenty of these kinds of threads in my time here and I think it's time for me to put in a bit of my opinion into this matter.

I'm not going to pester the mods/staff here with questions like "Why was [insert name here] banned?" and "[insert name here] totaly didn't deserve that permaban!" because all that does is patronize them and make them more defensive (as humans usually are.....you are humans, right?)

I trust the mods to give fair punishmnet, and usually they are. Sometimes, however, yes they do get a bit trigger-happy with the banhammer. The biggest example I can think of was during "March Madness", because of the intensity between Turbine (last years winner) and everyone else people got probed/suspended/banned left and right for little things being snide about the other. Plenty of people got suspended, Indigo_Dingo among others, however sv_93 was permabanned for a post against another person when there was clearly worse offenders. In simple terms, there wasn't a single curse word in the post he was banned for while others were swearing like sailors and were let off with a 7-day suspention.

Obviously that made quite a rukus, I myself fought for his freedom, but overall it was just.....weird. As far as I knew sv_93 was never on probation, suspended, or anything before and all of a sudden this. Maybe he had some previous bad behavior that warranted it, I don't know but I wish I did.

All of this could easily be avoided if the mods/staff would just leave the reason for their probation/suspention/bannage. It shouldn't be too hard should it? Just a simple sentence or two edited into the post to detail a bit why the person was punished for the post. Certainly that can't be much to ask for, could it? You could leave out the obvious ones, but at least something for the questionable ones.

Now, I'm not trying to pester the mods/staff with this, this is just a suggestion (albiet a very very good suggestion), but to be honest at times it seems like you guys don't listen to us. I'll play devil's advocate here and say that hardly any of the suggestion is the "Suggestions and/or complaints for the Escapist?" thread is ever considered let alone responded to.

But in the end something has to be done or this site will tear itself apart. I've seen it happen a dozen times and it is not pretty at all.

(I'm sorry if I'm starting anything up again, but I read as much of the thread as I could before my brain told me to stop thinking...)
Oh yes, the entire march mayhem was very mysterious. Also look at Codgo's case. He was doing the same thing as sv_93 and got permabanned.
 
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And it's true that Kukul has said some intelligent or funny things (he's not as stupid as your average troll) and I could understand someone liking him if they haven't seen everything he's said. But he can be really offensive and a real asshole.
Does this have to do with his stance on Israel? I like Kukul, he's pretty fickin' funny, if slightly controversial.
 

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CantFaketheFunk said:
Shibito091192 said:
Please could I be added to the list.

I was recently also wrongly put on 'Probation' for commenting on a video before watching it.
I had watched it and my comment was posted over 40 mins after the video was uploaded.
I think the moderators need to get better at their job.
This post [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/6.120562#2371219]? "First!" posts are strongly frowned upon by the staff.
And the community.
 

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Clemenstation said:
Forum ecology? The biggest fish have to get caught eventually so others can step up to take their place.

I don't know any of these banned people. I also look forward to not knowing whoever fires off those ~50 posts/day to become the new Fat Fish of the Escapistpond.
Those people were never "famous" due to their post counts, they were "famous" due to their posts.
The Swanson became famous for me after the "customer is always wrong" thread.
 

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I am, like a few others before me have posted, all for a comment (a line or two) as to why a user gets banned. Some banned users (such as Abyss) had their last post deleted and a note from a mod. While I wouldn't delete the post (unless it contained offensive pictures and such), I did like the comment explaining why. As far as Necro is concerned, I had seen him suspended a few times and on probation more than once. His final post was indeed rage fueled, but he did have a point (albeit an angry one).

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one reporting something that is clearly against the rules. It's apparent that users don't read the posting guidelines and we end up with users who make low quality posts. For lack of a better term, I wish there was a way to force these down users throats until they knew them inside and out.

As for Kukul, as Funk said, he got what he asked for. That was one moderation I genuinely laughed out loud for, not for the suspension itself just for the context and irony of the post. A stickied thread where it lists people who are banned would be a terrible idea. People would troll even more just to get into this "Hall of Shame" and the community would retain some bad feelings amongst itself.

In all honesty, I fear getting some sort of moderation for every single post I make (most of which shouldn't warrant any fear). However I think that eventually everyone has a breaking point. Necro showed us that, and so did the Darths. I was there when Mobius' first started the downward spiral (he made a comment about how list threads were not allowed, there was some confrontation, and the OP of that thread went and posted a rant thread against senior memebers. He eventually backed off, but I guess Mobius kept pushing it. After he realized the guy wouldn't get moderated, he seemingly went out of his way to push the boundaries). After seeing his last few posts I'm not surprised he was banned. Very few people saw all of this, and I guess that's what lead to all this confusion. He just kept pushing it and in the end pushed it too far.

I'm sorry for the mini rant/rave (against the rules, I know) but lately the community seems to breeding a strange hostility and I have a bad feeling that whatever is brewing will not be good for us at all.
 

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megapenguinx said:
I am, like a few others before me have posted, all for a comment (a line or two) as to why a user gets banned. Some banned users (such as Abyss) had their last post deleted and a note from a mod. While I wouldn't delete the post (unless it contained offensive pictures and such), I did like the comment explaining why. As far as Necro is concerned, I had seen him suspended a few times and on probation more than once. His final post was indeed rage fueled, but he did have a point (albeit an angry one).

Sometimes I wonder if I'm the only one reporting something that is clearly against the rules. It's apparent that users don't read the posting guidelines and we end up with users who make low quality posts. For lack of a better term, I wish there was a way to force these down users throats until they knew them inside and out.

As for Kukul, as Funk said, he got what he asked for. That was one moderation I genuinely laughed out loud for, not for the suspension itself just for the context and irony of the post. A stickied thread where it lists people who are banned would be a terrible idea. People would troll even more just to get into this "Hall of Shame" and the community would retain some bad feelings amongst itself.

In all honesty, I fear getting some sort of moderation for every single post I make (most of which shouldn't warrant any fear). However I think that eventually everyone has a breaking point. Necro showed us that, and so did the Darths. I was there when Mobius' first started the downward spiral (he made a comment about how list threads were not allowed, there was some confrontation, and the OP of that thread went and posted a rant thread against senior memebers. He eventually backed off, but I guess Mobius kept pushing it. After he realized the guy wouldn't get moderated, he seemingly went out of his way to push the boundaries). After seeing his last few posts I'm not surprised he was banned. Very few people saw all of this, and I guess that's what lead to all this confusion. He just kept pushing it and in the end pushed it too far.

I'm sorry for the mini rant/rave (against the rules, I know) but lately the community seems to breeding a strange hostility and I have a bad feeling that whatever is brewing will not be good for us at all.
Am I "A few others"? Or not? I'm confused.

To elaborate on my idea, perhaps take the names off when the suspension is up? Unless you're permabanned, your name would come off, and no one would remember you. And if you're permabanned... Well, you won't be getting much satisfaction out of the forums you can't visit anymore, will you?
 

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First of all, on the subject of wrath-explanation posts: Some times, I'd like to see this, if only for clarity, I suppose, just a line detailing that the user warranted the wrath of the mods for whatever reason. On the other hand, I don't suppose it really matters, since if the moderators have made their decision, its final and leaving a message explaining their actions seems a bit pointless (thats probably not the right way to phrase it) as I'm sure we'd all like to think that the user in question was banned for a good reason.

Second, in terms of the "Hall of Shame", to quote megapenguinx: Hmm, maybe not, methinks. I have a feeling that it would be a definite attraction to some members, especially ones who are leaving the Escapist and want to go out with a bang. Also, if they're immortalised in a stickied thread, wouldn't that defeat the whole idea of ridding the community of them and letting new, rule-abiding members take thier place in the forums? However, having an anonymous list of things that could warrant the various levels of wrath could be good, such as a number of example posts in their own thread, or as an addendum to the existing rules.

To conclude, generally, in my time here, I've always thought that the moderators and admin do a bang-up job of keeping the site clear of undesirables and, although lately I have noticed a rising level of animosity, I'm sure that no matter what happens, the mods'll take care of it.

I'm still fairly new here, really, and thats just my small input into this conversation. Thanks.
 

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I still remember TaxiDriver/Travis Bickle, and he has been Permabanned about 4 seperate times.

A particular individual, he.
DemonGuy792 said:
However, having an anonymous list of things that could warrant the various levels of wrath could be good, such as a number of example posts in their own thread, or as an addendum to the existing rules.
You mean Lord Krunk's The BanHammer and You [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/18.112832]?
 

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Ajna said:
megapenguinx said:
Am I "A few others"? Or not? I'm confused.

To elaborate on my idea, perhaps take the names off when the suspension is up? Unless you're permabanned, your name would come off, and no one would remember you. And if you're permabanned... Well, you won't be getting much satisfaction out of the forums you can't visit anymore, will you?
Well more people than you have suggested that sort of thread. Thing is, it's not that hard to get permabanned. I know for a fact people will ban jump or make multiple accounts, if only to troll. It'll just end up being a contest for "who can go out with the biggest bang" sort of ordeal. That isn't to say I don't like the idea, I just think people will see it as a sort of challenge and try to get on there any means necessary.
 

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Danzorz said:
If someone was perma-banned a year ago or two years ago, could they get it overturned or is a perma-ban really forever and ever?
I don't know. Honestly, if someone who was banned still wanted to be on the Escapist after that period of time, I imagine they would have made a new profile.
that's what i'm wondering, if old, axed members are still lingering around under new names...?

or do they make it so you can only have one profile per IP address?