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Fair enough, I did misunderstand what you were saying, but that doesn't make it right (last argument for real, sorry). You assume that we have no evidence things were different. We do. They're called fossils. I realize, however, that you aren't attacking evolution as such, so I'll stop.Grand_Poohbah said:
So I'm wrong because I believe there is someone out there that watches over us and does His best to hope and believe in a better tomorrow? Why do you care so much about something you don't believe in? How are you better than me if I believe in hope and live a better and more productive life because of it?Kukul said:
Religion isn't all about being some fucking idiotic fairytale person, it helps people with good morals and gives us something to live for.
Someone lock this topic.
OK, I got quoted, so I came back! Look, the gravity argument is beaten to death. Newton did a good job explaining what, but did not answer why, especially on the quantum level. Anyway, I'm not a physicist, so I'll drop it, you can have it. Check out Indiana University, it is doing some fabulous work with fruit fly populations. I can also observe populations is the wild, much like darwin, and draw conclusions based on those observations. I can buy "this animal is this way because it must do this to survive" much more easily than "this animal is this way because an ethereal being made it so". If you drop the "fossils are god's test of our faith" argument on me next, my head will implode...Grand_Poohbah said:
I was eager to make assumptions? Maybe consider the fact that you made religion and superstition equal in your eyes. That's why I got pissed off. You fucking athiests think you've got it all planned out. (save a few great ones, RIP Randy Pausch) Stay out of your science? I never disagreed with the theory of evolution, good try.Kukul said:
You are right you haven't disagreed with it, all you have done was bash atheists.Say Anything said:
Also to counter the "fucking atheists" comment:
Fucking wanker
Scopes Monkey trial good sirs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial
And yes, in the state of California it is a California State Standard that you learn the theory of evolution, not believe in it however. I am not sure how it is in other states. Quite frankly I believe in it but, if people choose not to it doesn't make my knowledge any less true to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scopes_Trial
And yes, in the state of California it is a California State Standard that you learn the theory of evolution, not believe in it however. I am not sure how it is in other states. Quite frankly I believe in it but, if people choose not to it doesn't make my knowledge any less true to me.
Still unsure why you think I've been talking about evolution in this thread. Haven't said one word about it, all I've said is you athiests always feel the need to visit threads about religion and spew your whole fit about how none of it is real and everybody who belives in a religion can go fuck themselves. As I've already mentioned, true or false, people like myself choose to believe in religion because we have hope and it makes us better people. I'm sorry for wanting to be a friendly and loving person, The Escapist.Kukul said:
I want to point out you are one of the main instigators in bringing religion into this. But of course religion is hard to separate from this issue because the alternatives to the theory of evolution are religious, which don't belong in a science class.Say Anything said:
Edit: And could you please stop with the hate towards atheists, you are making assumptions about other people religions based on very little and are pretty much coming across as a self-righteous asshat.
Yes, and perhaps now I've taken it too far, but I posted because I'm quite a bit upset with all the people who degrade the religious. Really could care less whether or not you believe in it, but a GREAT majority of athiests here at the Escapist seem to make total asses out of themselves, as seen earlier in this thread. (And pretty much every athiest dominant religious debate that pops up here everyday at the Escapist)Lunar Shadow said:
Anyway, didn't mean to make a huge debate and I apologize, but that doesn't mean I'm not going to stop posting here if others want to keep egging it on.
First, this thread was about evolution, read the OP. Second, this is getting nowhere; agree-to-disagree time, I think (that last part was addressed to everyone, not just you).Say Anything said:
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My second point above is addressed to you as well. Let it go.Kukul said:
Yeaaaap, I'm done. Though there'll probably be a topic exactly like this tomorrow with somebody saying religion is for idiots and the planet would be better off without them.