Tokyo Mirage Sessons getting good reviews for being a niche JRPG.

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http://www.metacritic.com/game/wii-u/tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe

Even Polygon which has a track record for having rather harsh reviews of Japanese gaming has given a 9.5. Honestly speaking from what happened with Fates, doing everything to distance itself from the PSV's market audience and bending the knee to the press has worked in Nintendo's favor.
 

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I only read the Destructoid review but regardless of what it said (unless it said that the game was a buggy, broken, piece of Fable 3) I was almost definitely going to pick this one up. I'm glad that this is getting good reviews though, I like when things I like are praised. It's kinda lame that I can't summon Lord Baphomet by shooting myself with a magical gun but summoning Gackt via the power of song is almost as good.
 

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That's cool.

Still not interested due to it not looking like either SMT or Fire Emblem.
 

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inu-kun said:
I don't know, Fire Emblem Conquest also has high score on metacritic and that game was absolute garbage, JRPG's are between the genres that suffer worst from review gap if the series or creator is popular.
Never played it myself. What made it garbage? I heard it was more objective based and more difficult than Birthright. Was that all it was?
 

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Kibeth41 said:
erttheking said:
That's cool.

Still not interested due to it not looking like either SMT or Fire Emblem.
It looks EXACTLY like a SMT game. It literally has the same gameplay and similar premise as the Persona games.
I'm not talking about gameplay, I'm talking about themes. And theme wise, it looks pretty damn far from both SMT and Persona.
 

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Kibeth41 said:
erttheking said:
I'm not talking about gameplay, I'm talking about themes. And theme wise, it looks pretty damn far from both SMT and Persona.
It's actually pretty thematically close to Persona. But whatever, you have your opinion.

Edit: any deviation is because it's slotting in Fire Emblem characters. It IS a crossover afterall.
I don't remember Persona having such a major focus on pop singers, but whatever.

Don't have a Wii U anyway.
 

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Elvis Starburst said:
inu-kun said:
I don't know, Fire Emblem Conquest also has high score on metacritic and that game was absolute garbage, JRPG's are between the genres that suffer worst from review gap if the series or creator is popular.
Never played it myself. What made it garbage? I heard it was more objective based and more difficult than Birthright. Was that all it was?
The gameplay was easily the best out of the Fates trilogy (And the freaking hardest) but the story was...kind of sort of the weakest. Kind of. See, I honestly like the interaction between the Nohr family a thousand times more than the Hoshido family, it just feels a lot more fleshed out, but the overall goal of the plot just feels forced. Basically the goal is to stop Garon who can't seem to go five minutes without ordering his kids to commit some kind of atrocity or letting his own personal psychopath Hans go and commit war crimes.

Because no one can just go over and stick a sword in Garon who might as well be dancing on his throne screaming "I'm evil, I'm evil, I'm evil." All of his kids just kind of submissively lower their heads and got along with it, although Leo is at least smart enough to try and subvert his orders enough to lower the death count, but even then that's just a half measure a half measure. It just gets really, really frustrating to see Corrin moping about how bad things are because of her plan to take down Garon. Which involves conquering all of Hoshido for reasons I can't go into without spoilers. It...it's just really frustrating because I can think of a dozen different ways to stop Garon without thousands of people dying.

Basically the problem with Conquest is that once you've played it, you feel liked Nohr was the "wrong" option. Mainly because there's no real good reason for the war that's given in the game. You only learn why Nohr is at war in Birthright, which is just such a stupid design choice that I can't even.

It's sad because I like the character's, but the overall direction of the plot, while having plenty of good moments, makes them feel like idiots.

Ugh. But if you like Awakening or any of the other Fates games, you'll like it for the most part, it's just that one aspect will probably bug you all the way through.
 

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Kibeth41 said:
erttheking said:
I don't remember Persona having such a major focus on pop singers, but whatever.

Don't have a Wii U anyway.
No, Persona has a major focus on television. HUUUUUUUUUUUGE deviation, obviously. It's as different as VCRs and cassette tapes. Pink lady apples and granny smith. Tape measures and rulers.
Correction. Persona 4 did. None of the other games in the series did. And it used the television as a gateway to explore deep themes such as the concept of truth, how the pressure of society influences people, and being true to who you really are. Does TM have anything that complex going on?
 

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Good for the game but its quality was never the issue. The main themes of idols and high schools just turn me off and I can't really recognize the Fire emblem. I'm hearing the SMT fans also can't see their series in it.
 

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Looks pretty neat, but I am not a big fan of the pop idol theme. I may pick it up during a gaming drought. I plan to play through Bravely Second before I pick this up for sure.
 

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Kibeth41 said:
erttheking said:
That's cool.

Still not interested due to it not looking like either SMT or Fire Emblem.
It looks EXACTLY like a SMT game. It literally has the same gameplay and similar premise as the Persona games.
Sure yeah, it looks like Persona. I can agree with that. But it definitely does not look like a mainline SMT title, such as Nocturne or SMT IV. There's no grit or post-apocalyptic horror. Which is what many people were hoping for when the crossover was first announced.
erttheking said:
Kibeth41 said:
erttheking said:
I'm not talking about gameplay, I'm talking about themes. And theme wise, it looks pretty damn far from both SMT and Persona.
It's actually pretty thematically close to Persona. But whatever, you have your opinion.

Edit: any deviation is because it's slotting in Fire Emblem characters. It IS a crossover afterall.
I don't remember Persona having such a major focus on pop singers, but whatever.

Don't have a Wii U anyway.
Yeah, previous Persona games didn't have storylines revolving around idols (Rise from 4 was an idol/singer, though). But, 3 and 4 had heavy amounts of J-Pop style soundtracks. TMS also shares the highschool cast and social links aspect. It's basically Persona: Wii U edition, no matter how you wanna slice it. And that's fine. I'm not into it, but I know other people will enjoy it.
 

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erttheking said:
That's cool.

Still not interested due to it not looking like either SMT or Fire Emblem.
It could have been the game that made me buy a WiiU and a TV but "meh"
 

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Fhqwhgod said:
erttheking said:
That's cool.

Still not interested due to it not looking like either SMT or Fire Emblem.
It could have been the game that made me buy a WiiU and a TV but "meh"
Highly doubt it. Doesn't really catch my eye, and Persona 5 and SMT IV: Final both look a thousand times better.