Sort of. It just looks a lot lighter on plot and themes, part of which made 3 and 4 the games I liked so much. And yes, there were plenty of j-pop elements in the previous ones, but they weren't the entire game. Moderation and all that.Foolery said:
Tokyo Mirage Sessons getting good reviews for being a niche JRPG.
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Oh wait. Its coming out soon? Shoot I need to get it.
Getting it regardless of reviews. Stood by this game from the start.
Getting it regardless of reviews. Stood by this game from the start.
It's coming out tomorrow no less.Dragonbums said:
Anyway, this was always going to happen. You're talking about a game that is a crossover of two highly-lauded franchises and being developed by one of the best game companies around. Of course it was going to tell critics and detractors to shove it. What I love about this game is how it takes two seriously disparate franchises (in gameplay, setting, themes, etc) and creates something new while paying homage to both of them but not getting bogged down in fanservice. It's interesting how Nintendo has been on this collaboration kick and been able to produce games that aren't quite like the two series they're emulating. Pokemone Conquest, Hyrule Warriors, Pokken, and now this find something new by mixing series. I want to see what else Nintendo could do with collabs like this. I say bring us Metroid x Devil May Cry, Phantasy Star x Star Fox, Advance Wars x Mega Man, just go nuts.
Foolery said:
OT: I'm broke, so I can't pick up the Collector's Edition of this game so that I can then play it while waiting for Persona 5 to grace me with a themed PS4 that Kingdom Hearts 2.8 forgot to bring to me for Christmas 2016!
Other than that, based on these reviews, my expectations were already going to be met regardless of certain "misunderstandings"...
Metroid May Cry...Aiddon said:
Phantasy Star Fox...
Mega Man: The Advance Wars...
Yeah... None of those titles even come close to being on Tokyo Mirage Sessions's title level...
What is this game? A JRPG that Polygon likes? I've never heard of it, but I wouldn't mind having something decent to scratch my JRPG itch while I wait for Persona 5.
I'll have to check...
Whelp, nevermind. I'm not buying a WiiU for one game.
It's why I can't take shows like Macross seriously.
I'll have to check...
Whelp, nevermind. I'm not buying a WiiU for one game.
I don't think so; I can think of several people who have played Persona 4 and absolutely adored Rise. I personally wanted to see her grab Teddie and Yosuke in a giant hug and then hurl the lot of them off of the tallest building in Inaba, but to each their own, I suppose.Sheria said:
It's why I can't take shows like Macross seriously.
I guess I just look in the wrong places ^^SlumlordThanatos said:
I remember downloading the FFX-2 opening video back when it was first leaked online. I loved it, but when I came to reading peoples thoughts, I couldn't believe how strong a distaste and annoyance there was from the whole upbeat, J-pop thing. (not referring to those with a dislike for change in tone from X)
Well, as you said, each to their own
There's no dub? That's a lost sale with me then, I have trouble reading subtitles and seeing action/whats going on on the screen a good chunk of the time. Thanks for that info at least, I was on the fence about this one.Sheria said:
Oh, did this come out? I'd literally heard nothing about it after the announcement.
I don't have the money for it, and I likely won't for a while, but cool, I guess? That means I can pick it up whenever I can afford it, at least. Looks fun enough to me.
I don't have the money for it, and I likely won't for a while, but cool, I guess? That means I can pick it up whenever I can afford it, at least. Looks fun enough to me.
From the demos I have seen, it plays exactly like Persona and probably has a more pg story/characters.
Which is kinda dissappointing, fire emblem has good gameplay but terrible story and persona had good story but boring gameplay.
This seems to be the worst of both worlds.
Which is kinda dissappointing, fire emblem has good gameplay but terrible story and persona had good story but boring gameplay.
This seems to be the worst of both worlds.
YES! YES TO THIS!Aiddon said:
There's a lot of good and bad going on in today's gaming world, but one extremely cool thing that's happening is something that I've loved since childhood but didn't happen with much frequency 'til now: all these collaborations. Just... just ram ALL the things together. Do it, like, make them kiss and let's just see what happens you guys!
"But, what about the thematic consistanc--"
You shush! Can't you see I'm trying to play Project X Zone!?
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That said, I'm a bit on the fence whether or not to get this. I was pretty excited for it when it was announce a little while ago, but now what with me being painfully broke, noticing how Japanese consumers weren't happy with it and all the alterations they made to prep it for localization, it's really being pushed back on my to-do list. Seeing all the rave reviews about it does push it back up a bit, but ultimately, yeah it'll probably have to wait.
I hope for its success though, if for no other reason than we don't get another period of companies being deathly afraid to bring Japanese stuff over here.
The game only references Awakening and Shadow Dragon.
SMT references are bare minimum to my memory.
Game theory time:
ATLUS and Intelligent Systems were going to develop a crossover game, but IS got cold feet and decided to dump all the work on ATLUS. ATLUS, out of spite, decides to make a goofy Idol game that has barely anything to do with their own SMT series at all, and more to do with Fire Emblem (albeit barely), whilst also using it to play up the Idol industry they literally one game ago criticized (Dancing All Night), and also making a plot about creativity and friendship and expression with everything being so bright and sugary you'll vomit rainbows.
Nintendo also requests it get censored cuz "those Westerners can't even handle a panty shot in this day and age *ptooey*"
ATLUS is very open about this before Nintendo smacks them upside the head and tells them to stop taddlin.
From what I recall the game sold poorly in Japan.
Considering it's blatantly niche to the point where I could point at it and say "it's everything wrong with anime" and most would likely believe me, I doubt its success in the West.
Well, hey at least it's 'well received.' Let's take a look at those sales numbers in a few months.
SMT references are bare minimum to my memory.
Game theory time:
ATLUS and Intelligent Systems were going to develop a crossover game, but IS got cold feet and decided to dump all the work on ATLUS. ATLUS, out of spite, decides to make a goofy Idol game that has barely anything to do with their own SMT series at all, and more to do with Fire Emblem (albeit barely), whilst also using it to play up the Idol industry they literally one game ago criticized (Dancing All Night), and also making a plot about creativity and friendship and expression with everything being so bright and sugary you'll vomit rainbows.
Nintendo also requests it get censored cuz "those Westerners can't even handle a panty shot in this day and age *ptooey*"
ATLUS is very open about this before Nintendo smacks them upside the head and tells them to stop taddlin.
From what I recall the game sold poorly in Japan.
Considering it's blatantly niche to the point where I could point at it and say "it's everything wrong with anime" and most would likely believe me, I doubt its success in the West.
Well, hey at least it's 'well received.' Let's take a look at those sales numbers in a few months.
Too bad that theory is completely bunk:LawAndChaos said:
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/06/24/shin-megami-tensei-x-fire-emblem-evolved-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+siliconera%2FMkOc+%28Siliconera%29
They tried doing just a strategy game, but quickly realized they were just retreading ground IS had done decades ago and decided to go the SMT/Persona route which is Atlus' strong suit.
As for it only referencing Akaneia and not doing anything with SMT, again, provably false:
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=64647
When you have a dead ringer for Ilyana and an in-universe magical girl show named Dia (long-standing SMT healing spell) whose star is modeled after Micaiah, it's clear these guys knew what they were doing (and more references will likely be found in the coming weeks). Heck, a lot of SMT references get dropped with a poster saying "One of the Millennium" (Millennium Kingdom for the Order of the Messiah), the red cloaks the Mirages wear which are similar to the Order of Gaea in SMTIV (as well as serving doubly as an homage to enemy units in FE), and a lot of locations name-dropping demons from SMT (like Uzume Lessons Studio and Decarabia Jewelry). Not overt, but that's not the point of the game. The point is to take two franchises that are disparate in tone, gameplay, setting, characters, etc and juxtapose them in order to create something new. And that's what it does. It creates its own identity despite being a crossover which isn't new for SMT (see also Devil Survivor, Devil Summoner, Persona, and Digital Devil Saga).