top 10 arguments I disagree with

[BreakfastMan]

10: "A proper gaming PC costs more than a used car!" Again, bullshit, and again, I point at mine. It can play any game yours can, it costs no more than the average price of a console, and it's a PC.

I wouldn't knock that point quite so much. My parents sold their old Toyata for the cost of my netbook ($400 btw), and I have friends who have bought cars for $500. It is a crap point for arguing against the price of a gaming PC, but it the point still works nonetheless. Of course, that could also mean that a console can cost more than a used car as well ($600 for a new PS3 anyone?).

 

[Nouw]

It's sad that we even have to create a thread about such obvious things like these.

I'm not quite sure this'll convince the stereotypical teenage-gamer to think otherwise too. Having said that, good thread!

 

[CptRumGuy]

Err, might want to work on that grammar a little more man.

But yeah, I agree with what your saying... I guess. Seriously, its kind of hard to read. Work on the grammar and ill get back to you.

Did you read your own comment? Sorry, I couldn't resist XD

Hint:
-you're
-it's
-I'll

 

[ZtH]

Decent list and I didn't mind the attitude. I definitely agree with you on a couple of those.

 

[Suarga]

6. "I dont want games to be art, games are ment to be fun!"

what?

no seriously what?

ok....FILMS are a recognised art form, yet we still have youre summer block busters, your indie films and your oscar bait peices, get my drift here? gaming realy isnt any different

I dont mean to come across as agressive but this statment strikes me as incredibly stupid (and lets not debate what IS art because that goes nowhere fast)

Well if someone wants a game to be fun and not some pretentious piece of art, that's on them. Just like you said, we still have summer blockbusters and we still have Sundance Film Festivals. Gaming is no different, games are created for different people just as any other medium.

So whats the problem? You don't like that someone else has a different view than yours?

I agree with what you're saying but you come off as aggressive and rude at the end

His remark was aggressive as well, regardless of if he prefaced it with "I don't mean to come across as aggressive". Calling someone stupid because they hold a different opinion isn't very intelligent, especially when you just gave an example of how a medium can be used to service many different types of people.

 

[rabidmidget]

All of the anti-religion arguments here, most are people blaming religion for the things that stupid people do in the name of religion and act like that's ALL religion has ever done, which is incredibly narrow minded.

And I'm not even religious.

 

[rapidoud]

There's no such thing as consolisation.

Dumbing down =! Streamlining.

PCs are not better than consoles, no sorry, 3rd person view means MORE to render so how can that be a feature of consoles? I don't believe in the apartheid for PCs you morons.

Err, might want to work on that grammar a little more man.

But yeah, I agree with what your saying... I guess. Seriously, its kind of hard to read. Work on the grammar and ill get back to you.

Did you read your own comment? Sorry, I couldn't resist XD

Hint:
-you're
-it's
-I'll

This. Otherwise I agree with some of the things he said.

 

[Suarga]

All of the anti-religion arguments here, most are people blaming religion for the things that stupid people do in the name of religion and act like that's ALL religion has ever done, which is incredibly narrow minded.

And I'm not even religious.

Well if someone did something in the name of an organization, and that action is stupid, wouldn't you think that organization is stupid? All groups that have no entry requirements hold the risk of being represented by the wrong message. I wouldn't disagree that religion has brought on some good, but it surely isn't necessary for civilization.

 

[Vault101]

9. Fallout 3 was a bad game, lets just put certain plot points ASIDE for a moment, I think some people really forget what the game did incredibly well (and that was alot of things)

I agree with (I think) everything you just said other than this.

I think that Fallout 3 was a bad game. But why that is has nothing to do with any plot point stuff. I probably can't anyway seeing as how I stopped playing it a couple hours in.

I just thought that stats were terribly balanced, almost to the point where putting points into anything but small guns was a waste, combat itself was rather dull and that the inventory system could use something of a revamp IMO.

But ignoring all that for a moment. Let's talk about the atmosphere. Or rather, the lack of such. Yes, I'm serious. Fallout 3 has absolutely no atmosphere and that is entirely due to that lack of audio. There's no music, but I could forgive that, they could pull off a wasteland tone without music. But at least add in some environmental sounds! I'd settle for some wind blowing through the jagged rocks!
Don't try saying the radio stations add some atmosphere. They don't. Because any immersion you get from the radio at first is immediately shot when you realise that the radio just has a few minute track that loops over and over again.

That's why I think it's a bad game: Lack of atmosphere and immersion.

I don't care about how good the rest of the game is. I couldn't get into it.
The way I see it is that every game is a box full of goodies, which you have to find a way into. Some games, like IMO Metroid Prime, allow you to jut hop right in a play with the goodies. Fallout 3 on the other hand is a box made of solid steel with no way in.

Thank you. I was about to write why I don't like F3 but thanks to you I don't.

Anyway:

10) NO it's not dying
9) What the guy I quoted said
8) Yes it was a bad thing. Instead you trying improve it they completely cut it out.[/B]
7) I don't want realism. Leave that to ArMA
6) Agreed
5) Agreed
4) No they aren't
3) Agreed
2) Strongly disagree
1) Don't understand

ok, that is one way of looking at it

however I will point out that its not like you had less content to deal with

and yes, there are exceptions tot he blank charachter Idea however I find in general it just doesnt work that well

like...(now I may be making this up) in one of the early 3d grand theft auto's arnt you just some guy who never speaks? THATS the kind of thing Im talking about

but then again I guess its all about the induvidual game

 

[Canid117]

7- Realism is a problem for me because if you want to get killed with one bullet, you can go out and do it yourself. Video games are meant to help us live the lives we can't live in reality.

Problem is you dont come back to life IRL.

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

All of the anti-religion arguments here, most are people blaming religion for the things that stupid people do in the name of religion and act like that's ALL religion has ever done, which is incredibly narrow minded.

And I'm not even religious.

I agree wtih this, though I am religious.
They way they talk, I think religion must have killed their puppy.

Because I don't really understand the OP, here are a few that bother me

1) "Piracy is OK because you aren't talking something, you are just making a copy. Imagine if I coppied your car. It would still be there". No, no it's not. And back to the car thing, if that happened, would audo corps work on developing new cars? Or would they stop because people were just copying it and they would lose more money in development then they could hope to make back.

2)"PC gaming is dying." No, no it is not. Look at RTS games. PCs will always have that. Besides, people have been saying that for years.

3)"Used sales are just as bad as piracy, and GameStop is eeevvvviiiilll. We should give money to devs after each used sale". First Sale Doctrine. Google it. If you have ever given someone something that you used without giving money to the creater, you are just as bad

 

[William Dickbringer]

5. everything is dying

no it isnt

Ha, yea I really hate seeing this too. Maybe I should post a thread asking what ISN'T dying.

Everything is dying. Everything will eventually die, it's just the nature of reality. And as that time is coming closer with every second that passes, everything is dying. you, me, earth, humanity, gaming, movies, the sun, everything.

Well then why do people point it out? Why do people point out specific things that are dying? I don't think they mean it in the same sense that you do. They just mean it's getting less and less popular.
Wanna know what ISN'T dying? Waffle House.

Yeah, I know you meant it in a different sense. I was just pointing out that little philosophical point of view. Everything is dying.

oh if we're talking philosophical then I guess I can say that all we are is dust in wind

 

[Dragonpit]

One of the arguments in the world today I disagree with is that Metroid: Other M is a masterpiece and that Samus was plagued with a emotional disorder that leads her to abusive relationships. Dammit, people! It's obvious that the game is wrought with a lot of instances of bad writing. The more there are, the more likely it is that other key moments such as the prescribed disorder is actually a case of bad writing as well! Don't try to give something context when the writer easily could've given that same context in the story, but didn't! It's only further evidence the writer failed in the endeavor, anyway!

 

[rabidmidget]

All of the anti-religion arguments here, most are people blaming religion for the things that stupid people do in the name of religion and act like that's ALL religion has ever done, which is incredibly narrow minded.

And I'm not even religious.

Well if someone did something in the name of an organization, and that action is stupid, wouldn't you think that organization is stupid? All groups that have no entry requirements hold the risk of being represented by the wrong message. I wouldn't disagree that religion has brought on some good, but it surely isn't necessary for civilization.

Well in my opinion:

1)Ideologies should be judged on its own merits, not on those of its followers. An argument is equally valid or invalid, no matter who speaks it.

2)It was definitely important for the creation of civilisation, a society requires people with like-minded moral ideals for it to be formed and Religion is a great way for a common set of moral guidelines to spread.

 

[Vault101]

All of the anti-religion arguments here, most are people blaming religion for the things that stupid people do in the name of religion and act like that's ALL religion has ever done, which is incredibly narrow minded.

And I'm not even religious.

I agree wtih this, though I am religious.
They way they talk, I think religion must have killed their puppy.

Because I don't really understand the OP, here are a few that bother me

1) "Piracy is OK because you aren't talking something, you are just making a copy. Imagine if I coppied your car. It would still be there". No, no it's not. And back to the car thing, if that happened, would audo corps work on developing new cars? Or would they stop because people were just copying it and they would lose more money in development then they could hope to make back.

2)"PC gaming is dying." No, no it is not. Look at RTS games. PCs will always have that. Besides, people have been saying that for years.

3)"Used sales are just as bad as piracy, and GameStop is eeevvvviiiilll. We should give money to devs after each used sale". First Sale Doctrine. Google it. If you have ever given someone something that you used without giving money to the creater, you are just as bad

is it a grammar/spelling thing? :/

 

[CM156_v1legacy]

All of the anti-religion arguments here, most are people blaming religion for the things that stupid people do in the name of religion and act like that's ALL religion has ever done, which is incredibly narrow minded.

And I'm not even religious.

I agree wtih this, though I am religious.
They way they talk, I think religion must have killed their puppy.

Because I don't really understand the OP, here are a few that bother me

1) "Piracy is OK because you aren't talking something, you are just making a copy. Imagine if I coppied your car. It would still be there". No, no it's not. And back to the car thing, if that happened, would audo corps work on developing new cars? Or would they stop because people were just copying it and they would lose more money in development then they could hope to make back.

2)"PC gaming is dying." No, no it is not. Look at RTS games. PCs will always have that. Besides, people have been saying that for years.

3)"Used sales are just as bad as piracy, and GameStop is eeevvvviiiilll. We should give money to devs after each used sale". First Sale Doctrine. Google it. If you have ever given someone something that you used without giving money to the creater, you are just as bad

is it a grammar/spelling thing? :/

Let me put it this way:
I'm dyslexic, and can read upside down and sideways.
And I had no bloody clue what you were trying to say.