Knifewounds said:
JJMUG said:
Knifewounds said:
Chicago Ted said:
Knifewounds said:
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Squidden said:
A Katana? Kind of played, don't you think?
I was expecting something a bit more interesting.
And absolutely useless against chainmail.
Even though you could just thrust the blade into the chain mail, and it'll go through just like another sword. I mean all you need to penetrate chain mail is a pointy tip, and a strong blade which the katana has. And don't give me that oh, the katana's not a thrusting weapon bs. It's curved design doesn't hinder any of its abilities.
You have no idea what you're talking about here.
Next you'll be saying that Japanese Officers would cut through machine gun barrels with them in WWII.
The katana has next to no armour piercing capability. Hell, I don't know much about swords but I know that much. The blade is flat, and in order to get through the armour, you'd have to be pushing more of it away. If you're going for an armor piercing weapon, a stabbing weapon was best with a very thin blade, so you could get between plates and the like.
Your entire list is really nothing more then weapons you thought looked cool. These aren't the greatest weapons in history. Hell, you're picking weapons from all over time that really can not be compared with one another. Perhaps if you had this as some of the most
iconic weapons of all time I'd give it to you, but greatest, no.
Just no.
Sure they are *rolls eyes* Let me simply state that I've wielded most(note the word Most) of these weapons, and drew up this list out of my experiences with them while still doing an ample amount of research for them. I'm judging these weapons based on their own merits, and effectiveness in their time period + what they did for future weapons. Back to the katana debate. No of course the katana isn't the best piecing weapon, but saying it has none of downright ignorant. The katana is plenty capable of piecing through light armor, and even if it cant piece through heavier armor the blade is still able to bones through the armor. After all you have to remember that the katana can still inflict 1000's of pounds of force in its slashes. In the long run armor really isn't that much o
f an issue for most longswords since they can still just inflict bunt force trauma.
1000's or pounds of force, site your sources. You have no idea what you are talking about, i posted videos of tests of a both katana and longsword, used against real chain mail, and others posted ARMA articles. It does not go through chain mail or plate armor, i has no advantage over shields. Your nothing more than a Weeabo.
At the end of my post I stated that the katana could only go through simple light armors, and not chain, and plate mail, but still had the force to break whatever bones lay underneath that. I said nothing about it going through it(well maybe, but by about half an inch). Oh, I should try to justify that 1000's of pounds of force thing before you bring it up again as ammo for a flaming retort. Well, the answers very simple, the katana does have that kind of force; that's what gives them such a powerful cut. That force comes from the curve that acts like a spring when you swing it which dramatically increases the pounds of force when you hit something. I still find it quite funny that you call me a weeabo considering I'm more into Greek, and Roman culture than I will ever be with the Japanese. It's merely just a childish insult. And here's a way I can get around a shield. I'll just break the arm behind the shield, or wait for an opening in my opponents attacks for me to lunge a counter attack into, or just exploit the blind spot the shield leaves to sweep around, and maybe cut his head off if I'm feeling charitable enough not to chop at his legs instead, and even if the shields small enough to leave a small blind spot then its still gonna leave a lot more openings for me to strike at. And do you know what the sad part is? I could do all of these with any sword longsword, not just a katana. But lets strip everything down. How would a sword like a Viking sword stack up to katana if the wielders have no armor or protection , and have to rely squarely on the sword they're using? (btw your still entitled to ***** about my last statements I want want you to consult this question)
Lets see whats wrong, the blade acts as a spring, nope that has already been touched on.
Break the arm behind the shield, nope. Unless you believe what deadliest warrior told you. In a battle against the sword and shield the Katana wielder is at the disadvantage. It does not create a blind spot of the user of the shield, the other person has the blind stop. Cut at the legs, not much movement is needed to block that same thing with the head. Try to smash it, the sword gets stuck, most shields were not strapped to the arm, the videos i posted explain why, but in light i will give a condensed version. Its so if something when through the shield like an arrow or spear it would not make the arm behind it useless. Even the Romans knew this, the pilum was not only an effective weapon to kill with it also made the shield useless by not pinning the arm to the shield but breaking the shield. The blind spot argument is funny though ill give you that. The blade gets stuck in the shield not some super anime cut through. Viking shields were meant to break, and be lightweight, you could at least watch the video of the Katana not going through the shield.
As for doing the same thing with a longsword, nope. Katana were used in different ways because of the single blade. With the longsword you could use a wrap around becuase it has both sides bladed. I would also point to the European bastard the cousin of the Katana, can be used as a Half-sword.
As for stripping everything down, does having a Katana make you a better swordsman? The viking sword does just fine against a Katana. The better swordsman wins in that scenario. Unless you can point to some magic the Katana makes someone better as a swordsman.
Ill even post the links to all the videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCJ_eNIptPo
I don't even have to ***** about that last part, its just so ridiculous to assert that the Katana makes you a better swordsman. Weeabo is an good description.