TotalBiscuit's very strange behavior in this Vlog video....

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TotalBiscuit

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BloodWriter said:
Where do you people find the time to watch all these stupidly long videos on YT talking about videogames? Is this like a new thing, taking criticism that could be summed up in 6-8 minutes drawn out to half an hour, or with the WTF is Bishock Infinite, a shocking hour and twenty minutes.

I'd rather spend that time playing games than listening to someone drone about games.
No, criticism cannot be summed up in 6-8 minutes, which is exactly why the reviews of Bioshock were poor and skipped over all sorts of extremely important and valid criticism. It is much quicker to praise a game than criticize it and explain why.

It is also the reason that traditional shorter reviews are falling behind in terms of viewers and being replaced by longer-form content such as Angry Joes reviews and my WTF is? series.
 

Tohuvabohu

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BloodWriter said:
Where do you people find the time to watch all these stupidly long videos on YT talking about videogames? Is this like a new thing, taking criticism that could be summed up in 6-8 minutes drawn out to half an hour, or with the WTF is Bishock Infinite, a shocking hour and twenty minutes.

I'd rather spend that time playing games than listening to someone drone about games.
I watch these videos at work, mostly. Since sadly, we cannot play videogames on the job :/

Their long length and talky nature make it good background noise, and helps in passing the time. On rarer instances, I'll also listen to them whilst driving longer distances too.
 

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I'd rather spend that time playing games than listening to someone drone about games.
Sure, if it's a game I own. What if it's a game I'm planning on owning, and I want some idea of what it's like before I put my money down? Few games have playable demos these days, so a first impressions video from an independent source is the best you can get. Waaaaaaay better than a written review anyway. There's only so much you can describe in text compared to saying "here's something I noticed" and then showing you in real time.

As for duration, maybe 1 hour plus is a bit lengthy (I think I've usually picked up on all that I'm going to after 30 minutes), but whatever: if the video's too long you can always turn it off part way through. Can't really complain about a free service like that.
 

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BloodWriter said:
Where do you people find the time to watch all these stupidly long videos on YT talking about videogames? Is this like a new thing, taking criticism that could be summed up in 6-8 minutes drawn out to half an hour, or with the WTF is Bishock Infinite, a shocking hour and twenty minutes.

I'd rather spend that time playing games than listening to someone drone about games.
Personally, I tend to either stick on a video whenever there's something not hugely important happening in a game I'm playing. To give an example, I'm playing Ni No Kuni at the moment (an excellent game, I highly recommend it) so I'll stick on a video to listen to while I'm going from place to place, and doing sidequests and such.
 

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Tohuvabohu said:
BloodWriter said:
Where do you people find the time to watch all these stupidly long videos on YT talking about videogames? Is this like a new thing, taking criticism that could be summed up in 6-8 minutes drawn out to half an hour, or with the WTF is Bishock Infinite, a shocking hour and twenty minutes.

I'd rather spend that time playing games than listening to someone drone about games.
I watch these videos at work, mostly. Since sadly, we cannot play videogames on the job :/

Their long length and talky nature make it good background noise, and helps in passing the time. On rarer instances, I'll also listen to them whilst driving longer distances too.
The podcasty nature of our stuff is something we considered very carefully a couple of years ago when creating our formats. Stuff like Mailbox and WTF is, due to a lack of reliance on having to look at the background footage and a deliberately verbose style of commentary, coupled with our primary demographic being 25-34 year old males (ie. people in work), means that the videos are ideal for people to listen to while doing other things. They don't necessarily have to watch the whole thing, you can get the information by listening.
 

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TB has put out plenty of stuff that makes him look stupid/whiny/childish, but this one isn't it. He's just curious why he's making a little bit less money in the PAX period. Nothing wrong with that if it's your livelyhood(Which I assume it is).
 

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I personally like TB, I enjoy his WTF series and I used to like the Mailbox because you got some worthwhile insider knowledge from time to time.
I see where he's coming from with the vlog and at certain points in the vid it is clear that he is a little resentful of spending the effort to cover PAX to end up with disappointing viewing figures, however I don't feel like he was neccessarily blaming the viewers but did a bad job disguising his own disappointment.
That said convention footage is not interesting to me. The games on show tend to be limited in terms of what they do because they are early builds without a full feature set and could be dramatically different by the time they come out. Besides that the devs are usually walking him through the thing, talking it up like it's going to be amazing when it's finished and because of that he is not as critical as usual and you can see he's holding back on his real opinions.
 

Tohuvabohu

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TotalBiscuit said:
The podcasty nature of our stuff is something we considered very carefully a couple of years ago when creating our formats. Stuff like Mailbox and WTF is, due to a lack of reliance on having to look at the background footage and a deliberately verbose style of commentary, coupled with our primary demographic being 25-34 year old males (ie. people in work), means that the videos are ideal for people to listen to while doing other things. They don't necessarily have to watch the whole thing, you can get the information by listening.
Well that makes sense. It takes me about an hour or two to get through a single 30-40 minute video in the workplace, which is very very helpful on those especially slow days indeed.

Huh, I should've guessed that demographics had something to do with the format to your videos. Pretty much all your content plus LP's are the perfect background-noise for my workplace.
 

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I really like TB and after watching the video in its entirety, I dont really see the problem in it. The first half seemed to be him asking whether or not his fans actually want to see these vids and the second half seems to be some defiance stuff. Asking what he can do better doesn't seem like a problem when it is his job after all.
 

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I didn't feel at all like he was disappointed in his viewers, he seemed more confused or even worried (which is a valid concern given it's his work) that people may not be interested in the kind of content he thought they were, and asked for some feedback on the matter.

I am fairly new to subscribe (only done so a few months), since I just really didn't do that with anything on youtube until recently, but I now usually watch most of the "WTF is" and "Content Patch" videos as I enjoy TB's style of commenting and I find that content relevant for me as a PC gamer primarily.

I do feel he kind of forgot to consider easter and holidays as a possible reason for the low and/or slow views on a lot of the Pax videos, it's been a factor for me at least. Updates were slow due to Pax, which I knew he was attending, before my own holidays started, so I didn't watch any videos or checked for updates during this time. When I return so much stuff has gone up + the normal content schedule has returned as well, and knowing these videos aren't gonna quick ones, I've had to take my time.
 

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I didn't feel at all like he was disappointed in his viewers, he seemed more confused or even worried (which is a valid concern given it's his work) that people may not be interested in the kind of content he thought they were, and asked for some feedback on the matter.
It seemed like a mix of confusion and irritation to me, which is perfectly rational. If I spent a bunch of money to provide something for people I was sure they were going to like, and their response was "meh", I would most definitely be irritated regardless of whether or not the responsibility for miscalculating was mine. Perhaps this is why I am not an internet content provider.

Well, that and I have no talent.

TotalBiscuit said:
Guy, I've waited for the better part of two months for you to kill Skittles, and what was my reward? I'll never forgive you for this.
 

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TB, since you asked for feedback on convention coverage and this is as good a place as ever to respond I'll give you my thoughts here. Interviews are great but it's not the reason I come to your channel. I come to see you give an honest opinion about indie/less known games. I watch 'WTF is...' for that reason, not to see you play nice with devs. That one 'WTF is...' a few conventions back where you were playing that fart orc game with the devs and I could just tell you wanted to rip the game apart but couldn't. Every once in awhile I'll watch convention content from you because the game sounds interesting or I've already heard of it a bit but every time it's you and a dev playing the PR game. Just my thoughts.
 

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Guy asks for honest feedback from his subscribers, gets called weird.

Would you rather he just said 'Fuck You' and keep on posting shit he wanted? Because for me that's far more insulting behavior than plaintively asking your fanbase for the kind of content they want to see.
 

TotalBiscuit

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TotalBiscuit said:
Guy, I've waited for the better part of two months for you to kill Skittles, and what was my reward? I'll never forgive you for this.[/quote]

Crendor has an obvious back-room deal with Nuffle. Every single enjoyed that damn Skink gets is badly hurt and nothing more.
 

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TotalBiscuit said:
BloodWriter said:
Where do you people find the time to watch all these stupidly long videos on YT talking about videogames? Is this like a new thing, taking criticism that could be summed up in 6-8 minutes drawn out to half an hour, or with the WTF is Bishock Infinite, a shocking hour and twenty minutes.

I'd rather spend that time playing games than listening to someone drone about games.
No, criticism cannot be summed up in 6-8 minutes, which is exactly why the reviews of Bioshock were poor and skipped over all sorts of extremely important and valid criticism. It is much quicker to praise a game than criticize it and explain why.

It is also the reason that traditional shorter reviews are falling behind in terms of viewers and being replaced by longer-form content such as Angry Joes reviews and my WTF is? series.
Bioshock and Skyrim are games that kind of need a long form video anyways, with the amount of design involved in their creation. Shorter videos are ok for short video games, especially if all that needs to be said about the game is said. My review of FEz was around 6-8 minutes long, but I managed to point out most of the flaws I encountered.
I guess it comes down to how reviews and critiques are structured. I very much enjoy popping a WTF Is? video on every now and then while i'm eating and such, but a heavily structured short form review has value as a sort of broad view of the game, but its limitations an be worked around if necessary.
 

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He just wanted feedback to know what to do with his channel, he sounds a little anxious but not aggressive.

On a relevant note, although not applicable to the OP who seems reasonable enough, I cant understand people who "HATE" TB. I mean, I can see why somebody could dislike or be apathetic towards him but otherwise loathing his very being always perplexed me. He just delivers reasonably high quality inoffensive gaming content on a semi-regular basis without asserting many haughty world views. This isn't the first forum I have seen on the escapist criticizing him for perceived vocal tones indicating some massive superiority complex. Its like if TB says something slightly indicating stress or controversial sympathies people lose their s**t. This forum is by far the most level headed and even then many of the comments are people nodding their heads meaningfully talking about what an explotative egotist he is. He just makes youtube videos for a living to support his hobby and family.
Thats the internet I guess, people who never felt the cloying embrace of suffering intended to put their short, meaningless lives into perspective all crying about every single thing they dislike with all the dignity of a wailing baby prince.

No offense OP I dont mean you. Also what does OP even stand for?