Town forbids young people going out after 9pm without a parent or responsible person.

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KINGBeerZ

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I don't really have any intrest in leaving the house after dark, otherwise i'll turn into a pumpkin or something, but seriously who wants to be roaming the streets alone at night? it's cold, it's dark, and tonnes of things are closed, most of the things that are open are only for over 18's so i don't see any point in going out at night really, except for dinner.
 

DeimosMasque

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Honestly, as much as it pains me to say since I hate this law. It's the right of the local government to enact it.

If your or the people of the town don't like it. Well then, next election you know who to vote out don't you?
 

Da Orky Man

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Sober Thal said:
Da Orky Man said:
Sober Thal said:
People have never heard of curfew?

16 is still a child. Go home.

State of Illinois Curfew Law:
It is unlawful for a person less than 17 years of age to be present at or upon any public assembly, building, place, street or highway at the following times unless accompanied and supervised by a parent, legal guardian, or other responsible companion at least 18 years of age approved by a parent or legal guardian or unless engaged in a business or occupation which the laws of the state authorize a person less than 17 years of age to perform:

1. Between 12:01 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. Saturday;
2. Between 12:01 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. Sunday; and
3. Between 11:00 p.m. on Sunday to Thursday, inclusive, and 6:00 a.m. on the following day.

3 hour difference, big whoop.

Besides, they aren't arresting or fining anyone, they are just being made to leave the places they shouldn't be in.
"Failure to comply could lead to up to three months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £2,500."

From the article. So yeah, they are fining and jailing people.
Silly Billy.

No they are not. You read the wrong article, or you just plain read wrong.

Resisting any law could nab you a penalty, but the popo said this: "You may be removed to your home or place of safety if more appropriate." That is not even close to being on the same level as that wack job 'civil activist shithead' would want to lead the simple minded to believe that: "The Sky is Falling, the sky is falling, the sky just fell.... aaarrrggg!!!."
No, the jailing/fining is for those who resist the order to disperse. At least, that is what the article implies.
 

Da Orky Man

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Sober Thal said:
Da Orky Man said:
Sober Thal said:
Da Orky Man said:
Sober Thal said:
People have never heard of curfew?

16 is still a child. Go home.

State of Illinois Curfew Law:
It is unlawful for a person less than 17 years of age to be present at or upon any public assembly, building, place, street or highway at the following times unless accompanied and supervised by a parent, legal guardian, or other responsible companion at least 18 years of age approved by a parent or legal guardian or unless engaged in a business or occupation which the laws of the state authorize a person less than 17 years of age to perform:

1. Between 12:01 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. Saturday;
2. Between 12:01 a.m. and 6:00 a.m. Sunday; and
3. Between 11:00 p.m. on Sunday to Thursday, inclusive, and 6:00 a.m. on the following day.

3 hour difference, big whoop.

Besides, they aren't arresting or fining anyone, they are just being made to leave the places they shouldn't be in.
"Failure to comply could lead to up to three months imprisonment and/or a fine of up to £2,500."

From the article. So yeah, they are fining and jailing people.
Silly Billy.

No they are not. You read the wrong article, or you just plain read wrong.

Resisting any law could nab you a penalty, but the popo said this: "You may be removed to your home or place of safety if more appropriate." That is not even close to being on the same level as that wack job 'civil activist shithead' would want to lead the simple minded to believe that: "The Sky is Falling, the sky is falling, the sky just fell.... aaarrrggg!!!."
No, the jailing/fining is for those who resist the order to disperse. At least, that is what the article implies.
You seem to be implying that shit heads who flat out defy/deny law and order, are in a way, being somehow in the right...

Silly Billy, you'll understand some day.

Obviously not any time soon, but someday.

Keep the flames going for your under-minding of society... The cool kids will like ya more.

'resist the order to disperse'

cuz that maks u edgy n kewl
Me? I'm trying to write roughly impartial to this. If anything, I'd quite like something like this, as long as they put some safeguards so that kids walking home from youth events or sports clubs and the like, both of which often finish after 9, don't get into a rather intimidating situation with the police, even if there is no real problem.
 

j0frenzy

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This may be a cultural thing, but do 16yos not work in the UK or is it just that nothing is open then? When I was 16-18 I was routinely closing for the ice cream shop I was working. We stayed open until 11, often didn't get home until 12. And then there were the theaters when I had days off. I love me some movies. There were several good reasons for me to be out after 9 then.
I'm fine with a curfew in theory, but 9 just seems more than a little restrictive.
 

Chunga the Great

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That's how it is here, except it's 11PM. I can see why though since a lot of people at my school (me and my friends included) like to hang out and/or smoke weed at night. It's a pretty useless law because anyone with even the most remote knowledge of the town's layout can sneak back.

captcha: "find your happy" in, then a drop down list of a bunch of islands. WTF?
 

Cazza

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curfews are arent new. Anyway anyone under 16 shouldn't to out past 9 anyway. Their is only one reason I can think of a reason why it would happen. Going to a lateish long movie with friends and beening dropped off and being picked up by someone who can drive. Even then it's not like they are roaming the town.
 

Clearing the Eye

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I just ignore laws I dislike. Not sure where people got this mentality that the creation of a law means you must suddenly obey them like mindless robots. We, the people, choose what we want as our laws; if a stupid law is made, I ignore it and if everyone does as well, no one enforces it and the law is dissolved.

The lawmakers and government serve us and we tell them what to do. Not the other way around. Don't forget it.
 

Risingblade

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Under 16 so basically anyone 15 or younger. You can still be out if you're with someone over 18 Parent/sibling/friend. I take it there's been a lot of vandalism lately by these younger kids so that's why this law was made.
 

devotedsniper

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Personally i don't see this as a bad thing, teenagers today are little s**t's who think they can do what they like and terrorise anyone they don't know, at least with this curfew it will reduce the amount of idiots out at night drinking and being in the town centre (seriously why would you be in a town centre after 9? It's not like they can be in a pub/club/bar).
 

L. Declis

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SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Leon Declis said:
Honestly, I'm not entirely against this.

Seriously, there are places you just don't go past 9pm because of all the little shits hanging around in groups, heckling and intimidating people. Stand up to them and get stabbed, take their shit and possibly get mugged.
Yeah, because clearly, all knifes and other weapons in this world become useless before 9 pm.

I mean, ever tried to use a kitchen knife to cut your steak at 5 in the afternoon? Bloody impossible. But as soon as 9 roles around, those things become sharp as hell.
There is a difference. I would say the majority of the time, they won't do anything in daylight. There are other people around. The people who hang around during the day are, more likely than not, good people.

But by 9, the nice people are at home. In the streets, the only people that loiter are those types of people. I don't see these people getting into fights, drinking, threatening, vandalising, etc during the day.

SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Leon Declis said:
Take their rights away, they don't fucking deserve them. I cannot think of a decent reason why any person under 16 who isn't a hoodie-wearing tracksuit entombed git who would be in a large group of people past 9 o'clock.
This is just one of those viewpoints where you read through it and are so flabbergasted by the utter ridiculousness of it, you don't know what to say. What a stupid thing to say.
This is just one of those responses where you read it and you are so unbothered what some randomer on the internet thinks about you, you don't know what to say. What a stupid thing to say. You're not providing an argument against what I have said, you're not saying anything constructive, you're just being a douche.

dogstile said:
Leon Declis said:
So a few incidents with a group of dickheads means you should take away everyone else's right to be outside. That takes total sense.

I mean holy fuck, back when I did Hockey or Rugby i'd be walking home with all my equipment after 9PM and I was under 16 at the time. Hell, I even lived in an area where stabbings and muggings aren't just common, they're fucking accepted by everyone living there and I still say the rights are more important. The police have the power to stop younger people hanging out anyway, this just applies a blanket ban on everyone regardless of how they're acting.
The difference? You're a normal person, with sports equipment, not loitering around on the high street or outside my house. You're not a group of two people who are being what I assume they are targeting- loud, threatening, etc.

Also, the fact they were accepted by everyone doesn't prove your point to me, it just makes me think that you guys shouldn't have to "accept" it, and that the powers perhaps needed powers like this.

I don't care for the curfew, myself, but I do think that they should have made it about 11pm. No one under 16 needs to be out then, really.

But the dispersal order? I know cops may be able to do that, but if they could focus on it, that would be grand. Because I am sick and tired of not being able to do something about these people, and I may end up like this:

God Bless America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yruArw21EGA

By the way, the comment above is a joke. Kind of.