SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Leon Declis said:
Honestly, I'm not entirely against this.
Seriously, there are places you just don't go past 9pm because of all the little shits hanging around in groups, heckling and intimidating people. Stand up to them and get stabbed, take their shit and possibly get mugged.
Yeah, because clearly, all knifes and other weapons in this world become useless before 9 pm.
I mean, ever tried to use a kitchen knife to cut your steak at 5 in the afternoon? Bloody impossible. But as soon as 9 roles around, those things become sharp as hell.
There is a difference. I would say the majority of the time, they won't do anything in daylight. There are other people around. The people who hang around during the day are, more likely than not, good people.
But by 9, the nice people are at home. In the streets, the only people that loiter are those types of people. I don't see these people getting into fights, drinking, threatening, vandalising, etc during the day.
SmashLovesTitanQuest said:
Leon Declis said:
Take their rights away, they don't fucking deserve them. I cannot think of a decent reason why any person under 16 who isn't a hoodie-wearing tracksuit entombed git who would be in a large group of people past 9 o'clock.
This is just one of those viewpoints where you read through it and are so flabbergasted by the utter ridiculousness of it, you don't know what to say. What a stupid thing to say.
This is just one of those responses where you read it and you are so unbothered what some randomer on the internet thinks about you, you don't know what to say. What a stupid thing to say. You're not providing an argument against what I have said, you're not saying anything constructive, you're just being a douche.
dogstile said:
Leon Declis said:
So a few incidents with a group of dickheads means you should take away everyone else's right to be outside. That takes total sense.
I mean holy fuck, back when I did Hockey or Rugby i'd be walking home with all my equipment after 9PM and I was under 16 at the time. Hell, I even lived in an area where stabbings and muggings aren't just common, they're fucking accepted by everyone living there and I still say the rights are more important. The police have the power to stop younger people hanging out anyway, this just applies a blanket ban on everyone regardless of how they're acting.
The difference? You're a normal person, with sports equipment, not loitering around on the high street or outside my house. You're not a group of two people who are being what I assume they are targeting- loud, threatening, etc.
Also, the fact they were accepted by everyone doesn't prove your point to me, it just makes me think that you guys shouldn't have to "accept" it, and that the powers perhaps needed powers like this.
I don't care for the curfew, myself, but I do think that they should have made it about 11pm. No one under 16 needs to be out then, really.
But the dispersal order? I know cops may be able to do that, but if they could focus on it, that would be grand. Because I am sick and tired of not being able to do something about these people, and I may end up like this:
God Bless America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yruArw21EGA
By the way, the comment above is a joke. Kind of.