While the omni-tool sword looks pretty damn awesome, it seems like the animation takes a little too long to actually stab someone, meanwhile you're getting riddled with bullets.
Trailers: Mass Effect 3: Producer Insight
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Bioware haven't said they're cutting anything, but that does not necessarily mean they haven't.Tin Man said:
It's a matter of time and money.
They have about 2 years and X many team members to put together this huge RPG/shooter experience. If they spend time getting the combat smoother and morphing it to be more like Gears of War, that's less time, budget and developers working on the RPG elements.
We saw this with Dragon Age 2.
All the developers talked about was how they made combat "better" and more like an action game. And then in the game, it was half as short as it's predecessor, copy-pasted dungeons, had less dialogue and overall lack of polish.
Now, in defense of what you were saying, the Mass Effect team HAS talked about adding back RPG elements. But they're focusing is on combat. From what they're saying, to what they're showing us in trailers.
I assume this is what the poster you quoted is talking about.
We have more then mere words to gauge what is going to happen. We have actions.
Great...they've taken the game from a solid RPG with shooter elements and made it halo with a different Master Chief who uses a hologram blade instead of an energy blade. Wonder who'll have the gravity Axe?
They seem to have forgotten that people buy Bioware games for the story and the environments, not for the bloody combat. I hope they remember this~!
They seem to have forgotten that people buy Bioware games for the story and the environments, not for the bloody combat. I hope they remember this~!
All comments I'm making are based on gameplay experiences with the previous two games in the series and with Bioware's trailers for ME3.Tin Man said:
I also based what I said on the mechanics that they gutted from ME1 when they made ME2.
I'm currently replaying ME1 as a Vanguard with the Bonus skill of Singularity. I have the options of twirling my target around the room with the Singularity, Lifting him up to make him a clearer target for Wrex, tossing him off a cliff, or activating my Barrier, hitting him with a Warp, and then running into point-blank range and blasting him with a shotgun. In ME2, I'll be able to run across the room and headbutt him. I call that gutting the mechanics.
In ME1, I had 100+2 points to allocate across 10 different skills, NOT including Charm, Intimidate, and a Bonus Talent. I could play any character class twice and make two entirely different builds for each. In ME2, I had 50+1 points to allocate across 6 different skills. And, as a bonus, you could accidentally create a character where you literally had points left that you couldn't spend if you had two points left, and there were only level 3 and 4 slots remaining. I call that gutting the mechanics.
In ME1, I built up Singularity and used it to trash entire squads of enemies. In ME2, I maxed it out and watched as it hit a piece of cover and glow impotently while the enemy peaked out behind the cover, not even remotely inconvenienced, and shot me in the face. I call THAT "muttering an obscenity under my breath, restarting and playing as a Soldier."
Bioware also didn't release a press release for ME2 stating "Oh, yeah, we're gutting the mechanics in this game compared to the first one", but that's what they did. And nothing I've seen in the ME3 trailers lead me to to believe that they're moving back towards a more in-depth and choice-abundant set of character options in ME3, and this latest trailer leads me to suspect that they're going in the opposite direction.
You can disagree with me if you want. I could be dead wrong, and I hope that I AM. I want ME3 to be the best game in history. However, I do not believe that my statements are "nothing but the most obscene and implausible speculations".
I'll fully admit that I might given up on the powers too soon that didn't involve "slow time and shoot somebody in the face" when my attempts to use the powers felt far less effective than an assault rifle burst to the head . That's part of the reason I'm replaying ME and will be importing these characters into ME2. However, I'd played ME2 through two times, and it still felt like the characters had fewer options than ME1. A larger cast DOES means that there's more opportunities for interesting combos, but the 3-man fire-team means that you go into any given fight with a limited number of options. We can reasonably disagree on whether or not this constitutes "gutting the mechanics". You clearly do not, and I clearly do. *shrug*Tin Man said:
My worries concerning ME3 isn't due to fashion. I wasn't aware that there was a fashionable mistrust. I formed my views based on attempting every class in ME1 and ME2, and the ME3 trailers that Bioware has posted that I've seen. Accusing me of hating ME3 "because it's fashionable" is about as knee-jerk a reaction as it would be for me to accuse you of being a "Bioware fanboy" for defending the RPG mechanics of ME2. Mind you, if you attempt to defend the mineral harvesting minigame from ME2, all bets are off as far as fanboy accusations are concerned.Tin Man said:
My issues with ME2 were entirely my own, and they also weren't a deal-breaker for me. ME2 is on my list of one of the best games I own. ME was my first Bioware game, and ME2 was the first XBox 360 game that I payed full price for. And I did that SPECIFICALLY so that Bioware would get money from my purchase.Tin Man said:
While I consider ME2 a VERY good game, I preferred the ME1 leveling system and thought ME2 took the streamlining too far (then again, I didn't mind the Mako missions or the inventory system from ME1, which means that I probably have a screw loose somewhere). Which game I consider superior overall depends largely on my mood that day.
This one trailer just raised a red flag for me because they appeared to be hyping refinements to the duck and shoot mechanics rather than "here's all the cool powers you can use!". Hopefully, in a future trailer, they'll show the menu for character leveling and go more in-depth about the powers.
In any event, I'll almost certainly pre-order this unless Bioware puts out a press release saying that they're outsourcing bug-testing to Bethesda or character development to Team Ninja.
