Trailers: Portal 2: Bot Trust

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MrFluffy-X

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love it :D

PORTAL 2 PORTAL 2 POOORTAL 2 XD........i cant take it anymore I have to play it now!!!!!
 

Harry Mason

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kingmob said:
Harry Mason said:
Here's a good example... Dr. Strangelove does not have anything in it that is inherently bad for children to see or hear, but it was written, conceived, filmed, and marketed to adults. It is not, by any FAR stretch of the imagination, a Family Movie.
I think you are missing the point. It is not important who the game is marketed to or intended for, what matters for a family game is if it can be enjoyed by everyone.
Dr. Strangelove is therefore a bad example, since it has little slapstick or similar humour. If it did it would've been extremely family friendly. Darkness for adults and kids mean very different things, a kid will be absolutely not bothered by the films premise or even the ending.

All Portal has is a nice sounding evil robot who's parts you disassemble in the end.
By this same principal, Halo, which is played heavily by every single age group, should be labeled as a Family/FPS. If you show me a 7-year-old who hasn't played Halo, you are either showing me one who lives under a rock or who's parents are so discerning about what their children see, that the "T" rating on the front of Portal would scare them off regardless.

Could you imagine if Halo were labeled as a "Family/FPS?"

The idea that if something CAN be enjoyed by an age group, it is defined by that age group, is preposterous. And that is what we are debating here, is the manner in which Portal is defined. By this principal of "actual consumer base = targeted audience," everything from Saw to Modern Warfare to Tomb Raider to The Matrix would start getting labeled as "Family entertainment."

I saw Jurassic Park in the theatre when I was very young. It frightened me and entertained me to no end. I loved it, and would venture to say, was not psychologically damaged by it. That does no mean JURASSIC PARK is a family film! It is an action film with a young adult to adult target audience!

Another film I saw in the theatre at a very young age was The Nightmare Before Christmas. It scared the ever loving daylights out of me and I ate it up with a spoon. And it was a "children's film." It was written for children, and is sitting in the "Family" section of Best Buy right now while Jurassic park sits neatly over in the "Action" section.

Portal is an adult story. Regardless of whether children can appreciate it, Portal was written for adult minds, and labeling it as a "Family" game is doing it a disservice and is misleading to cautious parents.

And where the dooly is the "Slapstick" in Portal?! Is it when you are shot with automatic weaponry and the wall opposite you get soaked with your blood? I'm beginning to feel like I played a different game that some other people...
 

AetherWolf

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I swear with every trailer those robots are becoming slightly closer to the almighty cuteness of Wall-E.

Oh, and humans suck at the whole cooperation thing? Tru fax.
 

KwaggaDan

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Alphacron said:
KwaggaDan said:
Can someone please tell me why the narrator sounds so familiar?
You've most likely heard him asking for more pictures.

Pictures of SPIDERMAN!

(J. Jonah Jameson (forgive me if I spelled that wrong, Graham and Paul aren't the only ones behind on their Spiderman Research) from the three new Spider Man Movies)
Ah ha! Well spotted. And 10 points for the reference. Much better than that awful Red Alert 3...
 

HentMas

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As expected of Valve.

Also cant you do something about making those stupid Homefront adverts skippable? Im sure everyone who cares about it has one by now.
yes you can get into the "publishers club" and gave all the adds go away

OT: i love this gameeeeeee, i cant wait to have in in my hands!!!
 

justnotcricket

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*wipes tears of mirth from eyes*

Ahhh...that made my evening. =)

6 extra seconds! Just think what we could accomplish if we humans had those precious extra moments of not screwing each other over... ;_)
 

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Harry Mason said:
Andy of Comix Inc said:
Harry Mason said:
You are held captive by a malevolent A.I. attempts to murder you at every turn and forces you to burn alive the only friendly thing in your environment. Take it from someone who works in an Elementary school, NEVER underestimate children's ability to pick up on complex themes and innuendo. They are much more intelligent than you are giving them credit for, and I've seen first hand the way that traumatizing material effects the psyche of a child.
Kids have always been exposed to dark, dark entertainment. Don Bluth movies, Disney films, the Simpsons, Pixar films - all meddling with dark, adult themes, and all a hit with the kids. I think you're right, kids do pick up on these things - but I say, as long as there's a happy ending, kids won't care. Kids like to be scared more than they let on, and I say Portal is the perfect mix of "kid-friendly" jokes under a mask of pitch-black absurdity that defines the "family" genre.
While I'll agree that kids have always been and will always be exposed to dark material (Grimm Fairytails being the best and oldest example) and that being exposed to those things is not necessarily bad, Portal is not a Family game.

Here's a good example... Dr. Strangelove does not have anything in it that is inherently bad for children to see or hear, but it was written, conceived, filmed, and marketed to adults. It is not, by any FAR stretch of the imagination, a Family Movie.

Every book ever published by Roald Dahl is full of danger, violence, abuse and trauma. And the books were written for children. Though dark, they are "Family" books.

Portal was written for adult minds. An adult story coupled with a few off colour events and themes makes Portal and adult game. Just because a child CAN see something, doesn't mean it's meant for them.

And you say there are "kid friendly jokes," can you remember one?
Was it the one where you are confronted by a puzzle and told the penalty for failure is a painful death? Is it the part where you tear apart a mechanical mind piece by piece, removing personality traits like childlike curiosity until only mindless, furious aggression is left? Or was it the part where the A.I. reveals that it turned a highly populated laboratory into a giant gas chamber? I'm trying to think of "Family Friendly" jokes in this game, but I'm just drawing a blank.

Beyond Good and Evil is a dark family game. Portal is not.
If it makes you feel any better, the game is labeled as action adventure on Steam.
 

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Harry Mason said:
By this same principal, Halo, which is played heavily by every single age group, should be labeled as a Family/FPS. If you show me a 7-year-old who hasn't played Halo, you are either showing me one who lives under a rock or who's parents are so discerning about what their children see, that the "T" rating on the front of Portal would scare them off regardless.

Could you imagine if Halo were labeled as a "Family/FPS?"
No, by the same principal Halo should not, since you shoot people in the face (many times). I feel like you are disagreeing for disagreement's sake.
 

duchaked

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this was hilarious :]

I should be more psyched for Portal 2 cuz it's all about co-op...which is awesome haha