Trailers: Star Wars: The Old Republic: Eternity Vault

[Loonerinoes]

I was hoping to get a reason.

Cute comic, shame neither the artist or you ever watched a gameplay video though

Mind explaining that accusation pal? because aside from the light saber not colliding the gameplay is WoW. And only lightsabers collide not monster claws and such.

Yeah sure, gameplay is WoW.

Except that the PVP systems are going to be different with no stupid resilience stat and the gameplay actually being built with it in mind.
Except that the crafting will be, by all reports, incredibly more involving.
Except that ultimately all of the experts in the stand have likely not gotten their hands on it as of yet and that almost everyone that has, has usually had very positive things to say about it.

What was your argument again? That 'watching' a game = to playing it? Sorry...not gonna hold up with me.

 

[Azmael Silverlance]

So who is that ancient race that built all that stuff? I never heard of any precursors or something in Star Wars...

Do i smell a Star Wolves refference here?????

OT: This is actually the first piece of gameplay that i like. It looks like alot of fun. But then again only raiding doesnt make a game...unless there is no cap like in WoW and you can go and fight as much as you want. That would be indeed awesome.

 

[Throwitawaynow]

Mind explaining that accusation pal? because aside from the light saber not colliding the gameplay is WoW. And only lightsabers collide not monster claws and such.

You mean like: Rift, Conan, LOTRO, Champions Online, STO, Everquest, Guild Wars, and every manner of f2p mmo from across the globe? Can anyone show me a fantasy/scifi (Non-space) MMO that doesn't play like WoW?

 

[Loonerinoes]

I was hoping to get a reason.

Cute comic, shame neither the artist or you ever watched a gameplay video though

Mind explaining that accusation pal? because aside from the light saber not colliding the gameplay is WoW. And only lightsabers collide not monster claws and such.

Yeah sure, gameplay is WoW.

Except that the PVP systems are going to be different with no stupid resilience stat and the gameplay actually being built with it in mind.
Except that the crafting will be, by all reports, incredibly more involving.
Except that ultimately all of the experts in the stand have likely not gotten their hands on it as of yet and that almost everyone that has, has usually had very positive things to say about it.

What was your argument again? That 'watching' a game = to playing it? Sorry...not gonna hold up with me.

Doesn't need to hold up to you but if the gameplay feels like WoW its going to feel like WoW. Also to be fair most experts in gaming generally have nothing but good things to say about most games. Remember they had NOTHING but niceness for WAR when it was in development and just after release.

To complain this game resembles WoW from the gameplay seen would be reasonable since all we have seen is combat. So the accusation that neither of us saw gameplay videos is rude and pointless as to have watched a gameplay video either objectively or with hate in our bellies would only serve to get the same result 'This looks like WoW"

And another thing; when was the last time you played an hour of a game and did not have a bad thing to say about it when you had your hype goggles on? When the game is soo fucking exalted that you feel like god himself blessed you so you may play his latest gift.

Hahah, I can already feel your indignation and anger through this post. Honestly, it's amusing.

1.) You say gameplay *feels* like WoW. To *feel* like it, one must play it. And btw, it is not just 'experts in gaming' that have nothing but good things to say about it. There's a certain blogspot site where an extensive FAQ was made with one of their anonymous betatesters, not to mention others that decided to try things out like PVP and have all said the same thing: "You have to play the game to understand that the combat *is* different from WoW."

2.) We have not seen 'just' combat. If you actually took the time to search, you'd see they've publically released info on crafting, PVP systems (note the word systems as opposed to Warzones, those are indeed like WoW), exploration update about finding special codex information through going through their worlds, ect. - all of which are actually quite different than WoW's systems. But it's not like I expect this myopic and prejudice-filled community to actually I dunno...do research for a change on the thing they like to slag off.

3.) When was the last time you had the decency to give a benefit of a doubt through proper investigation rather than just shout snarky ignorant opinions at anyone that actually did so and made up their mind contrary to yours?

 

[Johnnyallstar]

I've yet to see something original and good out of this game.

You don't think the conversation scheme in an MMO with all voice acting is good and original? Just asking, because I think it's the most innovative thing I've seen for an MMO in that direction.

Actually, the more I see of this game, the sadder I get, because it keeps looking like WoW+ where the goal they wanted to reach for each phase of the game was "better than warcraft." That's not necessarily a bad thing, but I'm looking for something more, with innovation elsewhere. When I heard that Bioware was making this game, I was super excited, but I've really cooled off for some reason.

Guild wars 2, on the other hand, is exciting me about everything it's doing.... except the classes don't really get me excited. The idea of a dynamic world that changes based on the decisions of the players really intrigues and excites me.

You mean like: Rift, Conan, LOTRO, Champions Online, STO, Everquest, Guild Wars, and every manner of f2p mmo from across the globe? Can anyone show me a fantasy/scifi (Non-space) MMO that doesn't play like WoW?

Vindictus. Which is one of those free to plays.

 

[jumb]

This reminds me of a raid from that other well known MMORPG.

Yeah, it's definitely got a back story reminiscent of Ulduar with a dash of the Arcatraz thrown in. Looks pretty cool though, gets me a bit more pumped up for the game.

Arcatraz or Violet Hold.

 

[KeyMaster45]

This reminds me of a raid from that other well known MMORPG.

Yeah, it's definitely got a back story reminiscent of Ulduar with a dash of the Arcatraz thrown in. Looks pretty cool though, gets me a bit more pumped up for the game.

Arcatraz or Violet Hold.

Both were prisons for the baddest of the bad from across azeroth/universe; only difference was who ran them. I suppose both then.

 

[Alpha Maeko]

I keep going between wanting it badly to not wanting it at all.

I don't want to be running around with 50,000 other Skywalkers, and how realistic can it really be for millions of Milenium Falcons to take on the same missions? (of which the results are supposedly going to change the outcome of the war/galaxy?)

I know whatever they're doing at Blizzard is working for WoW, but this is supposedly different, no? How does it all work without ruining the immersion?

 

[Throwitawaynow]

Vindictus. Which is one of those free to plays.

Dungeons and Dragons online.

Ugh deleted what I wrote. I don't see a big difference on the differences those games have for kotor vs wow vs ddo vs vindictus. Vindictus maybe an exception. From what I can gather after the terrible navigation of their site it seems like they have a witcher-esque system. I had to look at the controls guide to see it. Which hurts it more than helps it from a prospective players view.

 

[Johnnyallstar]

Vindictus. Which is one of those free to plays.

Dungeons and Dragons online.

Ugh deleted what I wrote. I don't see a big difference on the differences those games have for kotor vs wow vs ddo vs vindictus. Vindictus maybe an exception. From what I can gather after the terrible navigation of their site it seems like they have a witcher-esque system. I had to look at the controls guide to see it. Which hurts it more than helps it from a prospective players view.

Vindictus really has a fun system, until you realize that's about all it has. Just was pointing it out because there are many people who think everything is a WoW clone, and Vindictus is an awesome game to play for a little while, until you get bored to tears with it, and is everything but a WoW clone.

 

[2xDouble]

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Read this article [http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2011/04/29/star-wars-the-old-republic-preview/1]. It echoes another article from about 3 months ago in PC Gamer magazine. They have played the game.

 

[artanis_neravar]

That is a shitty trailer. Just compare that to Trion's "Waves of Madness" video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqa8_7JowcA&feature=player_embedded

Ya, HUGE difference. Trion's video looks epic and makes the enemy look deadly. Bioware's video for TOR looks lame and like they just oversized normally small droids for players to fight.

You're being a bit unfair here. They haven't released any other information on "Operations" yet, what we're seeing is only a small piece of the content.

Unfair? Really?!

It doesn't matter if it's just a small piece or whatever. This is content of their game. This video is a marketing tool to get the consumer to purchase the product. And no, it's not wanting me to do that.

From the video I perceived this much information:

-It's an Empire raid.

-It's for at least 20 people.

-Droids are a main focus of the fight going into it.

-It's at a prison.

-There's a boss at the very end that somehow only now is able to break his/her restraints (for some crazy reason he/she couldn't do it for the longest time that he/she was locked down there?).

-There's a lack of story presented other than "we found a secret prison vault"


There's much more that's in the video, but I'm not going to go into it. Overall, it makes me less likely to buy the product. That's what it boils down to.

And you know what I got from the trailer you posted?

-The bad guy is something called Akilios

-We want to be WoW

-Things that come from portals in the sky are a main focus of the fight going into it

-We want to be WoW

-Giant imprisoned beast somehow escapes it's bonds

-We want to be WoW

-It's for at least 10 people

-We want to be WoW

-It's at some kind of castle? or maybe a tower?

-We REALLY want to be WoW

-There is a lack of story presented other then "Akilion is released"

I fail to see the difference between your so called "epic" trailer and the TOR trailer.

 

[artanis_neravar]

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Read this article [http://www.bit-tech.net/gaming/pc/2011/04/29/star-wars-the-old-republic-preview/1]. It echoes another article from about 3 months ago in PC Gamer magazine. They have played the game.

Are you supporting what they said? or trying to show them that they are wrong?