this game wont be as fan-catering as many people would like because its being made to introduce people to the franchise. Hopefully it will be good for what it is and that if it sells well we will get a better sequel.
Trailers: Warhammer 40,000: Space Marine
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GW retconned it to red. So technically, its the right colour.John Marcone said:
Orks are good for this kind of game. Eldar are sneaky and not very good in a stand up fight (you heard me), Tyranids use blunt force swarm tactics (1 squad cant repel an entire planetary invasion), too much Chaos and suddenly the Grey Knights are stealing your thunder.
Maybe fighting the Tau would be good. You know what the Greatest Good is? Shooting Tau with a semi automatic rocket propelled grenade launcher.
This looks great, although I would have hoped they'd moved past the Spess Mehreens versus Orks and Chaos scenario that's been in every 40k game since 2004. I hope GW realize that nobody bought Fire Warrior because it was bad, not because it didn't feature Ultrasmurfs front and center. The recent regrettable CGI film suffers from the same lack of imagination.
Seriously, people. You have one of the most expansive and crazy IPs in existence--surprise us for once. I want to see an RPG based around Inquistors or Farseers, or, hell, even a military FPS based off Gaunt's Ghosts. And if you're going to do another CGI film, at least do something interesting with it. Eldar vs. Necrons or something. The producers' lust for money seems to be drowning out the writers' imagination, which is a damn shame.
Oh well. I'm sure there's still plenty of time for a game to come out that truly explores the universe's potential, but I do wish they'd stop being so damn cautious.
Seriously, people. You have one of the most expansive and crazy IPs in existence--surprise us for once. I want to see an RPG based around Inquistors or Farseers, or, hell, even a military FPS based off Gaunt's Ghosts. And if you're going to do another CGI film, at least do something interesting with it. Eldar vs. Necrons or something. The producers' lust for money seems to be drowning out the writers' imagination, which is a damn shame.
Oh well. I'm sure there's still plenty of time for a game to come out that truly explores the universe's potential, but I do wish they'd stop being so damn cautious.
This is the first hyped 40k game (Firewarrior doesn't count as it was obscure), so I'm being lenient with the general blandness of the set up. As the first venture into main-ish stream console games, they have to make sure that the game does well. How? SPEHSS MUHREENZ versus Da Orksez. Hopefully this game does well enough to kick start a whole range of 40k games so that the fanboy/girl wishes of the Inquisitor-based video game can take off. Priorities people. If the game does well, then the un-pleasable fanbase can be appeased with further titles.
For those questioning Ork blood colour: it was originally green, but was retconned to red for (mostly) painting reasons. All GW IP games/expansions/movies/whatever have to be run by GW themselves or they can yank it at the last minute (it's part of the licensing and why there hasn't been a box office 40k movie to date). The blood wouldn't be red unless GW said OK to it.
For those questioning Ork blood colour: it was originally green, but was retconned to red for (mostly) painting reasons. All GW IP games/expansions/movies/whatever have to be run by GW themselves or they can yank it at the last minute (it's part of the licensing and why there hasn't been a box office 40k movie to date). The blood wouldn't be red unless GW said OK to it.
Did they really have to use the b-word; betrayel? Now when I'm playing this game I'll be more paranoid than ever.
Ok, I know pretty much 99% of all games there is a betrayel (even you rollercoaster tycoon 3 with your awsome layout only having 2 to excitement), but I like to pretend when playing the game that I don't expect it so the betrayel is all the more 'unexpected'. It also makes the betrayel slightly more effective if it was an obvious one as well.
The trailer doesn't show much varience in enemies however
Ok, I know pretty much 99% of all games there is a betrayel (even you rollercoaster tycoon 3 with your awsome layout only having 2 to excitement), but I like to pretend when playing the game that I don't expect it so the betrayel is all the more 'unexpected'. It also makes the betrayel slightly more effective if it was an obvious one as well.
The trailer doesn't show much varience in enemies however
Cautious Optimism Rising.....
Wasnt impressed by the game play, looked to generic and samey, Not too excited about the story as well, but still...
Wasnt impressed by the game play, looked to generic and samey, Not too excited about the story as well, but still...
That's right buddy, I'm in the habit of commenting on videos I haven't actually seen. Yep. You sprung me.Worgen said:
Here's a screenshot from this game:
http://www.ripten.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/SpaceMarine3-600x337.jpg
And here's one from Dawn of War II:
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/dawn-of-war-2-screenshot-big.jpg
Now, in my humble opinion, of course, the textures look quite similar and the level of detail is comparable.
If the orcs getting those Titans is so bad why do they only send one guy?
OT: All they really had to say was "We really liked Gears of War, and we like Warhammer so..."
I'm not saying this is a bad thing, in fact I'll probably buy this game, but the comparisons are just so obvious. They even mentioned the "destroyed-beauty" art style that's straight out of Cliffy B's mouth.
OT: All they really had to say was "We really liked Gears of War, and we like Warhammer so..."
I'm not saying this is a bad thing, in fact I'll probably buy this game, but the comparisons are just so obvious. They even mentioned the "destroyed-beauty" art style that's straight out of Cliffy B's mouth.
Ah, Warhammer 40k, a grim dark and serious setting where nuns in jetpacks can fight space clowns.
So: The Good Side: Looks freaking amazing and the architecture looks phenomenal and the play looks like it could be amazing.
The downside: I hate Space Marines. WH40k has a lot of really amazing IP, but Space Marines are boring. Boring. And Bland. And they all have the exact same character "Tough, noble devotee of the emperor" and they all have variations of the same "Surrounded by enemies he managed to kill a million billion enemies with Space Marine powers because Space Marines are awesome". Yet they just keep taking up more and more creative space to the point that changing the space marine armor color merits a new codex. The problem with this IP is that today's writers are yesterday's space marine fanboys so they keep making all the new works come off as fan fiction.
Also, add to the fact that the Imperium is really impossible to root for: It's a fascist theocratic racist dystopia where everyone lives in a sad grim state of utter misery either serving in the military or toiling industrially. The Space Marines are the stormtroopers, genetically modified supersoldiers who, in any other setting, would be the villains. Yet, in WH40k, they have so many fans that they keep getting propped up as the heroes because OMG Space Marines are so cool!
I mean, the orks are savage but at least they have variety in their crazy scrapyard design. And the real story is probably "If the orks capture the titan, then they'll use it burn the imperial settlement to the ground before we can use the titan to purge the settlement for not saluting the Emperor enough."
Personally, I think the game would work better as an Imperial guardsmen or Inquisitor whose small size compared to the marines would bring out the sense of crushing grimness of the setting instead of "In the grim darkness of the future there is only ME BEING TOTALLY AWESOME"
I'd rather play a game as an Eldar Farseer, Ork Warboss, Dark Eldar Gladiator, Tau Battlesuit Commander, hell ANYTHING BUT SPACE MARINES.
So: The Good Side: Looks freaking amazing and the architecture looks phenomenal and the play looks like it could be amazing.
The downside: I hate Space Marines. WH40k has a lot of really amazing IP, but Space Marines are boring. Boring. And Bland. And they all have the exact same character "Tough, noble devotee of the emperor" and they all have variations of the same "Surrounded by enemies he managed to kill a million billion enemies with Space Marine powers because Space Marines are awesome". Yet they just keep taking up more and more creative space to the point that changing the space marine armor color merits a new codex. The problem with this IP is that today's writers are yesterday's space marine fanboys so they keep making all the new works come off as fan fiction.
Also, add to the fact that the Imperium is really impossible to root for: It's a fascist theocratic racist dystopia where everyone lives in a sad grim state of utter misery either serving in the military or toiling industrially. The Space Marines are the stormtroopers, genetically modified supersoldiers who, in any other setting, would be the villains. Yet, in WH40k, they have so many fans that they keep getting propped up as the heroes because OMG Space Marines are so cool!
I mean, the orks are savage but at least they have variety in their crazy scrapyard design. And the real story is probably "If the orks capture the titan, then they'll use it burn the imperial settlement to the ground before we can use the titan to purge the settlement for not saluting the Emperor enough."
Personally, I think the game would work better as an Imperial guardsmen or Inquisitor whose small size compared to the marines would bring out the sense of crushing grimness of the setting instead of "In the grim darkness of the future there is only ME BEING TOTALLY AWESOME"
I'd rather play a game as an Eldar Farseer, Ork Warboss, Dark Eldar Gladiator, Tau Battlesuit Commander, hell ANYTHING BUT SPACE MARINES.
It was the point originally, but the problem is that the space marine fanboyism has gotten so bad that now everyone is just trying to present it unironically and play down the evils of the Imperium to avoid making it anything but uncomplicated Space Marine heroism.Feriluce said: