Transgender Day of Rememberance

[Mischa87]

Well, the transgender awareness week comes to a close tomorrow with the Transgender Day of Remembrance

It's pretty grim really, studies show that one transgendered person is murdered every 3 days worldwide, just for being transgendered.

Throw in the obscene suicide rates (70% of transwomen will commit suicide by age 30 for example) And it really shows how many people should still be here, and shouldn't have to live in fear of being beaten, raped, or killed for just being themselves.

It's a grim reality, and luckily most of you will never have to deal with it, but it does happen. Please take a moment tomorrow to think about this issue.

Or even better, attend an event to show your support: http://www.transgenderdor.org/

EDIT: Clarification of statistics, thanks for pointing it out Bentusi16

 

[Thespian]

Wow, that certainly is grim. Days like this can really make you think.

 

[The Lesbian Flower]

If every person who hates the transgendered could have the experience of looking in the mirror and being devastated that the outside doesn't match the inside and have the feeling that no one knows who they truly are and that they might killed for expressing it, then the world wouldn't have this horrible problem.

 

[Velocity Eleven]

Its really sad. I'm trans but thankfully things are looking rather good for me at the moment

 

[CODE-D]

To try and be least offensive as possible(even though I dont care) I say these people should not be remembered and I really have no idea as to why they should.

 

[kaizen2468]

Transgender Day of Remembrance? Serious? I'm sure all the veterans would feel super about this.

 

[EmperorSubcutaneous]

Transgender Day of Remembrance? Serious? I'm sure all the veterans would feel super about this.

The veterans already have their own day.

 

[CODE-D]

Transgender Day of Remembrance? Serious? I'm sure all the veterans would feel super about this.

The veterans already have their own day.

Yeah they do, and they earned it.

 

[Damien Granz]

Well, the transgender awareness week comes to a close tomorrow with the Transgender Day of Remembrance

It's pretty grim really, studies show that one transgendered person is murdered every 3 days worldwide.

Throw in the obscene suicide rates (70% of transwomen will commit suicide by age 30 for example) And it really shows how many people should still be here, and shouldn't have to live in fear of being beaten, raped, or killed for just being themselves.

It's a grim reality, and luckily most of you will never have to deal with it, but it does happen. Please take a moment tomorrow to think about this issue.

Or even better, attend an event to show your support: http://www.transgenderdor.org/

That suicide statistic is pretty unsettling and disheartening a bit, but I'm not sure the first statistic means anything without proper population context.

Anyways, I hope the best for your event. Good luck to you all with your awareness raising events.

Transgender Day of Remembrance? Serious? I'm sure all the veterans would feel super about this.

What are you trying to have some sort of backwards pissing contest?

"Veterans Day? A day to remember veterans? Are you serious? I'm sure all the survivors of the 9-11 victims would feel super about this."

"9-11 Victims Remembrance? Are you serious? I'm sure all the people dead in Darfur would feel super about this."

Like it's some sort of fucking memorial highlander where there can only be one remembered group.

 

[Mischa87]

That suicide statistic is pretty unsettling and disheartening a bit, but I'm not sure the first statistic means anything without proper population context.

Anyways, I hope the best for your event. Good luck to you all with your awareness raising events.

The first statistic referred to the entire world, that's the population context. I appreciate your support, as well as everyone else's.

 

[IronicBeet]

Wow, really guys? Grow the fuck up already, if you don't care about other people, then don't comment on them, easy as that. Way to step up and show how ignorant you really are, and setting an excellent example of the kind of behaviour that needs to be abolished.

To come into this thread, and spread this kind of hate, you are beyond scum, I could not wish horrible enough of things upon people like you.

If I may play devil's advocate, they're not spreading hate. They're not saying that they hate transgender people. They're just saying that they don't believe there should be a "Transgender remembrance day". Why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their opinions?

 

[Mischa87]

If I may play devil's advocate, they're not spreading hate. They're not saying that they hate transgender people. They're just saying that they don't believe there should be a "Transgender remembrance day". Why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their opinions?

They are spreading hate, they're discrediting the lives lost, lost by the very same sort of people who would come into a thread like this, and act in such a manner.

In short, because people like them are the problem.

 

[Damien Granz]

Wow, really guys? Grow the fuck up already, if you don't care about other people, then don't comment on them, easy as that. Way to step up and show how ignorant you really are, and setting an excellent example of the kind of behaviour that needs to be abolished.

To come into this thread, and spread this kind of hate, you are beyond scum, I could not wish horrible enough of things upon people like you.

If I may play devil's advocate, they're not spreading hate. They're not saying that they hate transgender people. They're just saying that they don't believe there should be a "Transgender remembrance day". Why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their opinions?

It's the confrontational tone they did so in. It's the difference between like "I don't care about this holiday, pass" and "Let me talk about how this holiday is irrelevant in context to a holiday I think is relevant" (in the case of veteran's day), and insinuate you all are terrible for not making a thread about the proper remembrance. As if the two holidays are mutually exclusive anyways.

That's what makes them seem like asshats.

 

[Kopikatsu]

Wow, really guys? Grow the fuck up already, if you don't care about other people, then don't comment on them, easy as that. Way to step up and show how ignorant you really are, and setting an excellent example of the kind of behaviour that needs to be abolished.

To come into this thread, and spread this kind of hate, you are beyond scum, I could not wish horrible enough of things upon people like you.

Wonder if it's possible to be a bigot on bigotry. Hm...

Anyway. I think it's interesting how there is such a thing as a Gay Panic Defense and Trans Panic Defense. (For anyone who doesn't know, it's when someone on trial for the murder of a homosexual or transgendered person claims that they have Kempf's disease and entered a state of brief reactive psychosis which caused them to murder the gay/trans person. Basically, being gay/transgendered means that there are people who will uncontrollably try to murder you upon learning that you are gay/transgendered. The more you know!)

Edit: Like this.

In July 2009, Ferdinand Ambach, 32, a Hungarian tourist, was convicted of killing Ronald Brown, 69, by hitting him with a banjo and shoving the instrument's neck down Brown's throat. Ambach was initially charged with murder, but the charge was downgraded to manslaughter after Ambach's lawyer successfully invoked the gay panic defense.

 

[IronicBeet]

If I may play devil's advocate, they're not spreading hate. They're not saying that they hate transgender people. They're just saying that they don't believe there should be a "Transgender remembrance day". Why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their opinions?

They are spreading hate, they're discrediting the lives lost, lost by the very same sort of people who would come into a thread like this, and act in such a manner.

In short, because people like them are the problem.

Whoa, they're the problem? They're not the ones actively spreading hate and making it unsafe for transgender people to walk the streets. I don't oppose this thing, but don't say that people who do are automatically doing it because they hate transgenders.

 

[Damien Granz]

Wow, really guys? Grow the fuck up already, if you don't care about other people, then don't comment on them, easy as that. Way to step up and show how ignorant you really are, and setting an excellent example of the kind of behaviour that needs to be abolished.

To come into this thread, and spread this kind of hate, you are beyond scum, I could not wish horrible enough of things upon people like you.

Wonder if it's possible to be a bigot on bigotry. Hm...

Anyway. I think it's interesting how there is such a thing as a Gay Panic Defense and Trans Panic Defense. (For anyone who doesn't know, it's when someone on trial for the murder of a homosexual or transgendered person claims that they have Kempf's disease and entered a state of brief reactive psychosis which caused them to murder the gay/trans person. Basically, being gay/transgendered means that there are people who will uncontrollably try to murder you upon learning that you are gay/transgendered. The more you know!)

Gay panic defense is horseshit, because I guarantee if I slaughtered some random guy I knew who happened to be straight, and I claimed that his total heterosexuality caused me to panic and question my own sexuality, I'd get the chair, and probably rightfully so.

If I may play devil's advocate, they're not spreading hate. They're not saying that they hate transgender people. They're just saying that they don't believe there should be a "Transgender remembrance day". Why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their opinions?

They are spreading hate, they're discrediting the lives lost, lost by the very same sort of people who would come into a thread like this, and act in such a manner.

In short, because people like them are the problem.

Whoa, they're the problem? They're not the ones actively spreading hate and making it unsafe for transgender people to walk the streets. I don't oppose this thing, but don't say that people who do are automatically doing it because they hate transgenders.

Is there, in all practical use, a difference between actively spreading hate and actively stopping the spread of equality and what not?

I'm not claiming verbatim that was their intent, but the two can be seen as the same force acting from two sides, especially when you're talking about an emotionally charged topic such as this.

 

[IronicBeet]

Wow, really guys? Grow the fuck up already, if you don't care about other people, then don't comment on them, easy as that. Way to step up and show how ignorant you really are, and setting an excellent example of the kind of behaviour that needs to be abolished.

To come into this thread, and spread this kind of hate, you are beyond scum, I could not wish horrible enough of things upon people like you.

If I may play devil's advocate, they're not spreading hate. They're not saying that they hate transgender people. They're just saying that they don't believe there should be a "Transgender remembrance day". Why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their opinions?

It's the confrontational tone they did so in. It's the difference between like "I don't care about Kwanzaa, pass" and "Let me talk about how this holiday is irrelevant in context to a holiday I think is relevant" (in the case of veteran's day), and insinuate you all are terrible for not making a thread about the proper remembrance. As if the two holidays are mutually exclusive anyways.

That's what makes them seem like asshats.

Ah, I see your point there. I'm glad you can call these people out without resorting to wishing death on them.

 

[TheDarkestDerp]

If I may play devil's advocate, they're not spreading hate. They're not saying that they hate transgender people. They're just saying that they don't believe there should be a "Transgender remembrance day". Why shouldn't they be allowed to voice their opinions?

They are spreading hate, they're discrediting the lives lost, lost by the very same sort of people who would come into a thread like this, and act in such a manner.

In short, because people like them are the problem.

THIS exactly.

I was just talking with someone at work the other day on an almost identical point for point matter and they just couldn't see how they were at fault at all. The notion of silencing a voice they found unpleasant somehow didn't jive with their idea of what made someone 'evil'...

Tomorrow, I will be spending some time with my friends and loved ones, TG and non, and remembering the ones who've been taken from us all too soon.

 

[Mischa87]

Whoa, they're the problem? They're not the ones actively spreading hate and making it unsafe for transgender people to walk the streets. I don't oppose this thing, but don't say that people who do are automatically doing it because they hate transgenders.

Pretty sure those with the mentality required to troll a thread like this, are the same sort of people who would make it unsafe for transpeople.

Besides that, standing by while others are being harmed for being different is also an indirect way of supporting them. This has caused deaths in itself, like people not assisting transpeople that are being beaten, or people that don't administer medical treatment or the like because someone is trans... There's been quite a few deaths because people stood idly by.