Twilight - Why I Like It

[kawaiiamethist]

I watched New Moon last night with friends. It was entertaining. Well, if making obnoxious remarks throughout a film counts. I was know I was having a blast! Man, I laughed my ass off everytime Edward sparkled and could've made a drinking game of everytime a guy took off his shirt or walked around shirtless.

Yes, this shite is made for tween girls. But as a tween girl, I'm sure I had better taste than this. Bella is not a good example to follow; if I ever have a daughter, she will be taught to have some self respect and not wrap your whole world around some guy. I'm not one to get on a feminist high horse, but that crazy ***** needed a good hard slap across the face.

 

[Wintermoot]

the only problem I have personaly with Twilight is a part of the fanbase that goes insane when somebody says its not the holy grail maybe that I,ll give it a shot in the future

 

[DemonicVixen]

The difference between Harry potter and twilight is that HP is an adventure story about three school-age wizards saving the world through a combination of hard work, luck and teamwork. Twilight is about a dumb, selfish ***** that falls in love with a dude that doesn't want her because he's pretty and then makes everyone she knows miserable so she can live her idyllic fantasy life.

-m

WTF are you on about? I hope to god your joking or else have not read the Twilight books. Of course he wants her but he knows its dangerous. He tries to keep her safe but she won't/can't stay away from him. As for making everyone else miserable, besides shutting out her friends in New Moon, she seems to have quite a few friends standing by her. She also gets to the point where they link forces in ways that the vampires never expected but i won't say since i know many have not read or seen them yet. Yes then again, Bella does end up stringing Jacob along but she doesn't mean it and its his fault to keep trying when he knows she doesn't love him in that way (or so everyone thinks lol).
As for Harry Potter. Do not get me wrong, i loved them, and i have an entire bedroom wall dedicated to clippings and images. But still, they are mythical, totally unbelievable and just confusing by the time you get to the 6th book. Yes Twilight is a mythical book. Obviously vampires do not exist, besides cannibles but they don't count since they only eat humans, not transform then into sun hating monsters.
After all these years of Dracular type vampires, i was pleased to get a break. One person decided to change everything we know and make it more pleasing for those who dislike blood and gore and horror.

 

[fuckwit]

I'd say that pretty much sums it up, really. Though no matter how well worded this may be, I can guarantee you've set yourself up for tons of flaming...like I'm about to do to myself. <_<

Regardless, I've never understood why people get so upset about these vampires just because they're different. Who said vampires HAD to sleep in coffins or get killed when in the sun? I thought vampires were just undead people who drink human blood? No one complained in The Mummy when the villain wasn't bandage wrapped. I also find it odd that the same crowd that will constantly ***** and moan about how something needs innovation suddenly can't stand it when someone changes monster lore.

Heck, it's not even a permanent change. Even if the current generation grows up and all future vampires they make sparkle in the sunlight, there is still enough people who hate them to make stories about the old vampires...now that I think about it, this strongly resembles the attitude our generation gets from old people when they talk about video games. Constant bitching and moaning because they simply don't understand it.

Now don't get me wrong, if you hate Twilight then by all means you can hate it, I just don't see the logic behind the vampire hating, is all. Now hating on Twilight for the many plot holes and generally bad writing, I can understand. (And don't get me started on those terrible movies)

This is actually a fairly good point.

 

[PrototypeC]

Sorry guys, had to do it.

 

[Erana]

Personally, I think most every book has its place.
I still don't think its in the hands of impressionable children, but whatevs.

Still, you do have a pretty good point, and you forgot pokemon on your list of things to grow up with for that era.
Things for kids are a much lower quality than what they were, and to be honest, I think they should just bring back Looney Tunes, or Cartoon Cartoons, 'n what not.
I mean, it would be cheap for them, easy to market, and I want you to find me a 10-year-old who is firmiliar with the cartoon characters they're wearing on their graphic T-shirts these days.
I think they'd be interested to find out what Tweety was like, you know?

 

[Fox242]

Other alternatives include Hellsing Ultimate, Dracula, Nosferatu, and The Lost Boys. Seriously, Twilight sucks. I cannot emphasize this enough.

I'd rather rewatch The Lost Boys sequel than five minutes of Twilight.

I'd rather get a root canal. Again...Twilight blows!!!

 

[SirDerick]

I have to admit, when I saw the first Twilight, I actually enjoyed it a bit.
The acting was god-awful though, So I didn't go see the second.

 

[MelasZepheos_v1legacy]

I respect your opinion, and in some respects even agree with it, adding that a lot of people forget just how rubbish a lot of things we watched when we were kids was. My issue with Twilight comes from a writing standpoint.

As a writer enrolling in a univeristy creative writing course (I seem to be going on about this a lot lately), I tend to judge books nowadays the way I would if they were submitted for me to read in a seminar. I read Twilight on the recommendation of a female friend (who since went off them), and found it sorely lacking.

Weak characterisation, overly poetic language, misunderstanding of basics physics, biology, logic, stalker behaviour. I know this will be construed as flame baiting but these were my honest opinions, noted as I progressed through the book. I finished it with two realisations, the first being that this was not a book series meant for me, and the second that I didn't think it was very well written. I also had the same issue with Harry Potter, in that while I liked the story, the writing I found sub-par. Twilight didn't even have a story that interested me.

So from a purely objective standpoint, I will add this. I do not like Twilight because I don't like the story and I think it is badly written. However, I like Harry Potter because of the story, but think the writing is often clumsy. If someone likes the story, the writing can be excused, and it is not my place to judge whether you think a story is good or not, because that is purely subjective.

 

[jamesworkshop]

Twilight could have been good if the Author wasn't dumb enought to write a romance trilogy entirely in first person and sticking to only one characters point of view.

 

[stinkypitz]

Well said OP, you make a good point. However, I cant help but hate Twilight for the same reason you like it, because the youth of today is growing up with it. Yes we all have our nostalgic ip's and series and things from our childhood, but most of them were actually GOOD. Like you said, take a look at what kids are going to look back on growing up nowadays, things like Dora the Explorer and Twilight and all the crap they have on kids networks and the god damned Jonas Brothers... it will be interesting to see how soulless and depraved they all turn out compared to the people who grew up with good ol wholesome shows like ren & stimpy.

 

[jboking]

Except for when something like the new IRONMAN or New Incredible Hulk or Dark Knight comes out. Then they all cream themsleves over it, even though none of those particular films are any different or better than the rest of the crap out there that they complain about.

...you mean to tell me you can't see the cinematic differences between the Dark Knight and the first Incredible Hulk. It's called a story that is at least acceptable in quality and makes a certain level of sense. It's being at least considerate of the cannon for the nerds while still using some creative freedom to draw in new crowds. That's exactly why Ironman did so well honestly. It didn't destroy the cannon, but it changed some things to keep those new to Ironman interested.

But in clinging so desperately to this stuff, were shutting out our kids from having the same kinds of experiences with franchises and movies and whatnot that WE had as children ourselves. Instead they're forced to kind of go along with all the old stuff that WE obsess over, when instead we should be making room for newer stuff for the new generations to enjoy.

Super Mario - Sonic the Hedgehog - Banjo Kazooie - Snowbaord Kids - Bomberman - Lion King - Toy Story - Dexters Laboratory - Angry Beavers - Courage the Cowardly Dog - Powerpuff Girls - Looney Tunes - the list goes on...

But when I see kids nowadays - especially my 4 and 11 year old little brothers - they don't have much of that kind of stuff to call their own. Thank GOD for the miracle that was Spongebob (back when it was good, anyways...), and even stuff like Ratchet and Clank and Jak and Daxter (back when THOSE were good, I mean...). That was the kind of stuff that would bring us all together, and we'd have a blast!

Are you serious man? Do they watch TV? I have an 8 year old brother who can ramble on about Flapjack and Chowder until my ears bleed. You can say shows like those suck, and I'd agree, but the same can be said of a lot of our old shows(if you don't let nostalgia blind you). However, it really doesn't matter because Twilight's target audience isn't the 4-11 year olds. It's focused around the teenagers, many of whom are the ones who grew up at the latter half of the lifespan of shows like the Rugrats. This isn't giving something to the new generation, it's taking on a crappy book to our generation(remember, your only 20. Technically one year off of the target audience...well actually, less than a month off).

And honestly, complain and moan about how twilight percieves vampires as much as you want, vampires have always been kind of a silly concept...

When I complain about Twilight it's typically about the substandard writing(and yes, I have read them) and that it is a general ripoff of a 1990 novel. Also, from what I've seen of Meyer herself in interviews, I hate her and anyone who thinks her "One of the greatest writers of this generation"...yes that is a title I heard given to her.

I don't know, maybe it's just me, maybe I'm just thinking too much for the children (in the least pedo way possible, I promise!), but that's what I'm getting from all this. WHat are ya'lls thoughts?...

Like I said, Twilight isn't for the children, it's for the teenagers.

 

[Matt_LRR]

Of course he wants her but he knows its dangerous.

...and so he rejects her.

He tries to keep her safe but she won't/can't stay away from him.

because she's selfish and unwilling to take no for an answer. She prioritizes what she wants above everything else, including the wishes of others, and her own safety.

As for making everyone else miserable, besides shutting out her friends in New Moon, she seems to have quite a few friends standing by her.

who she systematically shuts out, mistreats, or strings along.

Yes then again, Bella does end up stringing Jacob along but she doesn't mean it and its his fault to keep trying when he knows she doesn't love him in that way.

Yes, how dare he pursue bella the same way she pursued Edward. CLEARLY it's his fault.




The reason I have no problem with the harry potter books is because they aren't trying to be anything more than a fun adventure story. That harry potter or twilight are stories involving magic forces and mythical beings isn't a problem for me. The HP books are not written terribly, and the characters within are reasonably dynamic and interesting. The story has conflict and resolution.

The conflict in the twilight series is contrived and moronic. the characters are flat and uninteresting at best, and brooding and unlikable at worst. They are written to be this epic romance tale of forbidden love, but they end up being this nonsensical conflagration of idiocy, resulting in 4 novels of drek. It's a 4-book retelling of romeo and julliet, with "vampires" and "werewolves" added to generate pop-influence, but with bigger, dumber lapses of judgement on the part of the characters, and no actual conflict to drive the story.


-m

 

[gameboy95]

Nintendo exploits nostalgia so goddamn much. When was the last time they released something new and good?

 

[oliveira8]

Sorry guys, had to do it.

Haha oh man, I laughed for quite sometime.

Anyway. I read the first book, thought it was dead boring and there was no real incentive to actually read the book again or the rest of the series. The story never makes me care for the protagonists or their love. They all so...meh, there's no spark between them, nothing besides she is horny.

I think MovieBob described it better...It's Christian porn for teenage girls.(or something.)

I only watched the movie through Rifftrax so no opinion there besides...

"Line?"

 

[MR T3D]

okay, legally speaking, my name is Edward, (but you can tell i roll as Ted) and i Loathe the series, as the girls whom are drawn to me based on the same name and some minor physical similarities (back in the day i made a good vampire at Halloween) generally are two weak willed, and make me feel as though i am taking advantage of them.

And I'm a gentleman, DAMMIT

then again, i'm a couple years older than its target demographic.

 

[Mrkittycat]

Yahtzee should review Twilight