U.K. Teen Buys $735 Photo of Xbox One on eBay

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Strazdas

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Why is everbody being so judgemental about this guy? Sure he should have known better but he is a victim of a scam, blame shouldn't be on him.
No hes not a victim of a scam. he admited himself he KNEW the decription read that it was a picture and bought it ANYWAY hoping it would be a real deal.

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Aw, come on now.... A UK teen pays in dollars... Really?
actually the article said the number in pounds and only provided rought estimate in dollars for comparison, because, you know, this is american website.
Actually, the headline says UK teen pays X amount in dollars.

It's an American website, so let's change the stories slightly to cater to Americans? Can't have the headline in pounds and then the conversion in the article,?
No it does not.
here, let me post you the headline:
"U.K. Teen Buys $735 Photo of Xbox One on eBay"
Nowhere does it say what currency the 19 year old "teen" paid. In fact the story first mentions the pound value and then translates that to dollars.
 

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So this gut got a kid when he's 15 and pays ungodly amounts of money for something without even reading the fine print or the damn description? ..... I can't even get mad at him, who I am mad at is the UK government.
first of all, what on earth is your age of concent and please don't say something ridiculous like 14.
And two, this guy does not sound suitable to take care of a child. Or atleast without some kind of crash course in how money works.

Edit: bonus while(aren't you lucky) what's a 4 year old to do with an Xbox one? Even in this day and age four year olds most want chocolate and jumping
 

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don't worry I'm sure this father of a 4 year old, 19 year old is a respected member of the community with a well paid job. It's not like he's a council house, benifit cheat who's using the tax payers money to buy a picture of an xbox!
Apparently there are immigrants in the country too, he's probably one of them and probably even has a wide screen TV! The audacity.

Come the fuck on.

I saw a related thread on a similar website and it went exactly the same way. Frankly I'm quite disgusted by the mentality shown by far too many, the problems with society do not stem from the likes of 19 year old father who's looking after his child but bigots who look down on him with contempt and condone the scanner.

It's not easy being a "normal" parent, never mind being one of the ostracised. Massive respect to this guy.
 

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The "victim" is 100% at fault here.

He reads the description, sees "photograph", figures he knows better, pays almost twice the market value and then runs crying to the press when, oh look, a photograph. Just like the description says.

And, I'm sorry, but exactly which of the Xbone games is suitable for a 4 year old? Deadrising 3? Killer Instinct? Or maybe CoD:Ghosts?
 

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I've already seen this story printed elsewhere, but it's worth having another go at it.

We've already covered the fact that the guy is 19 with a 4-year old son, something which hardly shows to be a paragon of self-responsibility. Also, the article I read referred to him as a student ad also that he had "saved up" to by the Xbox One for himself (sorry, his 4 year old son). More like, he was using his benefits money to buy the console. I remember being a student at 19 and being able to even save up for a console was a pipedream, even though I was working part of the time.

Disappointing to here he got his money back. If I had anything to do with it, that wouldn't have happened. Instead he would have gained an opportunity to learn not only the value of money, but of not spending nearly £500 on a a photo of a console when it's specifically stated that's what you're getting. Idiot.

I fear for the future of our country. I can somehow see this guys 4-year old kid being downwardly mobile when he grows up, which going by his father means he'll probably be huddled up at the side of the street, shaking a discarded Starbucks cup full of loose change.
 

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More like, he was using his benefits money to buy the console. I remember being a student at 19 and being able to even save up for a console was a pipedream, even though I was working part of the time.
It's not out of the question. When my student loan comes through I could definitely afford a next gen console if I don't mind eating light and not going out.

It all depends on how much his parents are earning (considering he was a father at 15, I'm guessing not much). Plus he could be getting bursaries, and I think having a dependant (his child) would entitle him to a little more money from Student Finance.
 

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Strazdas said:
"Buys $735" that is the bit I'm talking about, the headline! Not the article. The fact that the pound is mentioned first in the article is irrelevant, what is relevant to my annoyance is the first mention of finicial loss is in dollars when the story is about a teenager in the UK!

Let's flip it around "an American teen bought a picture for £450"... Why did he pay in pounds?

Why did you even make a mountain out of a mole hill? I was pointing out how weird it was and you ride in making an argument about it.
 

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Not Matt said:
So this gut got a kid when he's 15 and pays ungodly amounts of money for something without even reading the fine print or the damn description? ..... I can't even get mad at him, who I am mad at is the UK government.
first of all, what on earth is your age of concent and please don't say something ridiculous like 14.
And two, this guy does not sound suitable to take care of a child. Or atleast without some kind of crash course in how money works.

Edit: bonus while(aren't you lucky) what's a 4 year old to do with an Xbox one? Even in this day and age four year olds most want chocolate and jumping
The UK age of consent is 16, but getting a 'head start' in that area is very common and indeed there have been proposals to lower the AoC to 14 to take into account facts on the ground. Doesn't sound ridiculous to me, 14 year olds tend to be well into puberty, it's easily arguable they're old enough to make that decision for themselves.

And little kids love video games, when she was younger my sister used to just watch me play stuff like GTA or Fallout (I avoided doing anything grossly inappropriate), she didn't even want to give the game a go herself. I expect most 4 year olds would find a game fascinating, even if they couldn't play it properly themselves. But yeah, an Xbone probably isn't the right console for a young child, this guy should have just bought a picture of a Wii instead.
 

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Kyogissun said:
ticklefist said:
Why are people hung up on a 19 year old with a 4 year old child? He manned up and owned his shit at an age when most people would likely run from it. You judgmental people and your unqualified opinions.
That really doesn't change the fact that he could avoid being in the scenario he's in if he, you know, had better decision making skills.

It's GREAT that he owned up to his decisions, but please do not try and act like that wasn't a stupid decision. Hell, there are people who are twice his age and still struggle with being parents because, let's face it, parenting's not for everyone.

People are judging that factor because it ties into the other carelessness this article brings to light. Kudos on his responsibility for the big and important thing he did raising his kid but... Fuck, you think the guy would be a LITTLE more careful with his money considering he has a CHILD to care for!
This is exactly why people are giving the guy shit. Irrespective of his accepting of responsibility (which, I agree, is rare), his decision making skills are still questionable. Even if it is presumptive, empirical evidence regarding teenage parents does not a wise man indicate. Some other flags are raised in the posted list by Kyogissun [http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/jump/7.835951.20476761]. The frivolous spending, the questionable reasoning, the indignant nature of idiocy. Frankly, I'm somewhat amazed he was allowed vaginal entry.

I'm still confused by friends of mine getting married and having children.

I remember being a kid.

I was an asshole. Making parents' lives difficult for no fucking reason, whining about "bland mashed potatoes" and other such nonsense when they were putting food on the table. Feeling jealousy when my spoiled neighbors and classmates would come back from winter vacation with a tan (i.e. went to Disneyland) or a stash that would make Richie Rich pitch a tent, then coming home from elementary school sullen and moody because I couldn't appreciate that I got something and, especially, something I wanted or could use.

Parents did basically everything for us on top of working and all the stresses of trying to survive in the modern era (mortgages/rent, paycheck size, bills, gas, etc.).

Now, being grown up and going 'round my parents, I've felt mostly guilt, regret and ignominy. I've also felt that having a child right now would be a huge mistake.

Kids are assholes. Kids have no perspective and are (however unintentional) arrogant, myopic, selfish little shits. The responsibility is enormous and the gain, on the surface, appears little.

Sorry, went off on a tangent.
 

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The guy that bought the thing got a lucky break with this PR. If it was clearly printed in the description then that's on you. Ignorance is no excuse from the law.
 

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Somehow, $735 seemed like a good deal, the ad did mention it was a photograph, he's 19 and has a 4 year old son, goes sympathy fishing by implying his poor 4 year old son won't get a fucking xbone. Sometimes, people deserve to get scammed.
 

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JoJo said:
Not Matt said:
So this gut got a kid when he's 15 and pays ungodly amounts of money for something without even reading the fine print or the damn description? ..... I can't even get mad at him, who I am mad at is the UK government.
first of all, what on earth is your age of concent and please don't say something ridiculous like 14.
And two, this guy does not sound suitable to take care of a child. Or atleast without some kind of crash course in how money works.

Edit: bonus while(aren't you lucky) what's a 4 year old to do with an Xbox one? Even in this day and age four year olds most want chocolate and jumping
The UK age of consent is 16, but getting a 'head start' in that area is very common and indeed there have been proposals to lower the AoC to 14 to take into account facts on the ground. Doesn't sound ridiculous to me, 14 year olds tend to be well into puberty, it's easily arguable they're old enough to make that decision for themselves.
the main opposition to lowering the age is twofold, one aspect reasonable and the other retarded.
1) lowering the age of consent means lower ages for paedophilia charges, and a fully grown person cannot be charged for statutory rape for having sex with a 14 and 15 year old anymore. this is made even worse because of the laws around teen sex anyway, which the UK government admit are kinda shit, so they have a general set of guidelines for whether to take cases to trial when teens have sex with each other

2) it won't solve the problem, it will just mean younger kids end up having sex, because the excitement of underage sex isn't the sex part, it's the underage.

hmm, i wonder which one is the legitimate concern...

i say it sarcastically, and david cameron supported the stupid reason -_- but seriously, not doing it for moral reasons is stupid, the proposition is so more help and advice can be given to teens, not so we think it's 'ok' all of a sudden.

OT: wow, took a while to get back to the subject... the guy is an idiot, and neither is in the right. he was clearly scammed out of his money by being stupid and not paying full attention, but that doesn't mean the scammer is in the right. and i have no idea as to his parenting capabilities so i can't comment on him specifically, only teen parents as a generalization, which is they leave a lot to be desired. but props to him for actually sticking around for his kid.

and to other points raised, being a student doesn't make you poor, or reliant on benefits. i'm 3rd year uni, been working part time since i was 16, and currently i have student loan for living costs (food, bills, rent) and between £650-£900 a month depending on if i do overtime or not (the £650 is 2 night shifts a week FYI). needless to say, i live comfortably
 

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StraightToHeck said:
not surprising considering this guy's stupid enough to have a child at 15
Too-sheh! Yeah, he bought ift "fOr hiS sOn"... -__o right...
 

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Pebkio said:
Who else but a scammer sells a freaking picture for 735 dollars.
Now, the article doesn't specify what the asking price was but it probably wasn't 735 dollars. The thing with ebay is that it's runs on a bid system. Someone can put something on offer for 1 dollar and if enough people are fighting over it, it can end up going for hundreds of dollars.

But again, I have no idea what the seller was asking for, so it may have been a ridiculous figure.