U.S. Military Bans Medal of Honor From On-Base Stores
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Well, as opposed as I am to censorship (As I suppose you could loosely define this situation), I believe they're making the right call here. They aren't making a big thing of it, nobodies saying the game will destroy "The foundations of blah-de blah-morality-something- American way-blah", the soldiers can still buy copies off base, and they're avoiding the possibly harsher backlash from people complaining of selling a game that someone could interpret as supporting the Taliban.
Side note to those saying this is restricting free speech: It's a war. Soldiers are fighting and dying. Whatever you think of said war, the people in uniform are taking the worst of it. Alot of them wouldn't be phased by this, but just as many are going to have a problem with it. It's not restriction of free speech, it's being sensitive to that second half. Restriction of free speach would be stopping it from coming to the U.S. all together.
Side note to those saying this is restricting free speech: It's a war. Soldiers are fighting and dying. Whatever you think of said war, the people in uniform are taking the worst of it. Alot of them wouldn't be phased by this, but just as many are going to have a problem with it. It's not restriction of free speech, it's being sensitive to that second half. Restriction of free speach would be stopping it from coming to the U.S. all together.
In MW2, the terrorist factions are fictional, Taliban LIKE groups. Not much difference in reality, but enough to slip by beaurocracy. Politics, huh?Woodsey said:
Honestly, there's no bonus jihad objectives when you play online as the Taliban. They just need 2 arbitrary sides to fight each other. They could have just put some guys in turbans and robes and called them the magical frogs of Muhammad and it would have served the same purpose. It's a game guys. No one had a problem when an American general ignited a Russian Invasion of the US in an attempt to avenge some of his fallen men killing fellow Americans on purpose. General Shepard hurt and killed more Americans than the Taliban have.
This seems perfectly reasonable to me they didn't say the game was bad, they didn't chastise the people who want the game, they didn't say it shouldnt exist, they didn't even ban it really, they just asked that it not be placed in certain areas out of respect for the people who died in the war.
I can see why they would ban it if the Taliban were like a quick story campaign mission from their perspective somewhat like "No Russian" was in MW2.
But if what I hear is true and they're just a multiplayer skin then I'd be a bit skeptical about a ban.
But y'know for some dude it could just be some jibberish in Arabic that he heard shouted before his friend got blown to bits that some random character says in the game to cause some bad damage. Looking at it that way I can see why they'd rather be safe than sorry.
But if what I hear is true and they're just a multiplayer skin then I'd be a bit skeptical about a ban.
But y'know for some dude it could just be some jibberish in Arabic that he heard shouted before his friend got blown to bits that some random character says in the game to cause some bad damage. Looking at it that way I can see why they'd rather be safe than sorry.
I guess I can understand why they would want to ban it, I don't approve but I can understand.
But why is playing as the Taliban being heralded as a big controversial deal. God they're treating it like playing as the Decepticons in War for Cybertron. Which I actually find kind of offensive, "play as the bad guys" as it were.
Maybe it's not that, but that seems how they're marketing it, that's definitely how a bunch of idiots will look at it anyway.
But why is playing as the Taliban being heralded as a big controversial deal. God they're treating it like playing as the Decepticons in War for Cybertron. Which I actually find kind of offensive, "play as the bad guys" as it were.
Maybe it's not that, but that seems how they're marketing it, that's definitely how a bunch of idiots will look at it anyway.
If the rumors are true, then that scene (from MoH) is based on a real battle.kokirisoldier said:
Well, if you think like this, then you won't find neither the time nor the place for anything. Wouldn't the single-player mission be then, a disservice to the Afghan refugees (or their children) playing the game, and had genuinely lost friends and family members as part of the "collateral damage."Generic Gamer said:
The military does reserve the right to recommend to its soldiers what they should, and should not be doing. However, their banning this product based on such dubious reasoning is the exact kind of retarded mentality that has gotten us into these fucked up wars in the first place---the distinction between good and evil is not very distinct.
Yes, I know and I've acknowledged that. I was merely responding to another user's remarks concerning the sensitivity of the issue.Mornelithe said:
Um, I'm pretty sure that's not what we did....but whatever. If i remember correctly there was this little event called 9/11. It's okay you may have forgotten, it seems a lot of people have.Romidude said:
I don't live in the U.S. and I don't quite undesrtand a couple of, may I say, definitions and services you have in the U.S.
So, my question here is, what the heck is an AAFES and what does it do for the soldiers?
So, my question here is, what the heck is an AAFES and what does it do for the soldiers?
I can understand the ban on military bases. Frankly, to everyone saying "Let them make their own choice!" whether they buy it or not, they still have to walk into the store and see it there on the shelf and know that it's sat there. It's like if someone put up a poster than was clearly racist or sexist in a public place. But you wouldn't -have- to look at it right? Yeaaaaah...
As long as those who choose to purchase the game from outside the base are still allowed to own and play the game privately, i think this was probably the right move. Where it gets fucking stupid is where our (British) government tries to ban the general public from doing something. We're not out there fighting and half of us don't really care about the war, let alone honour those who died or are still fighting. Not to sound disrespectful myself, but a lot of young teenagers and kids these days who'd be playing games like this probably honestly don't give a monkey's about any sort of real life conflicts going on right now. And while a few families may find it insensitive, i see shit everyday that i personally consider 'insensitive' but that doesn't suddenly mean i can or should wield the censor stamp of doom. Hell, South Park bastardises the British on a near daily basis but you don't hear me bitching and whining about it and calling for a ban. People like Liam Fox cry wolf but are uneducated and self-interested.
As long as those who choose to purchase the game from outside the base are still allowed to own and play the game privately, i think this was probably the right move. Where it gets fucking stupid is where our (British) government tries to ban the general public from doing something. We're not out there fighting and half of us don't really care about the war, let alone honour those who died or are still fighting. Not to sound disrespectful myself, but a lot of young teenagers and kids these days who'd be playing games like this probably honestly don't give a monkey's about any sort of real life conflicts going on right now. And while a few families may find it insensitive, i see shit everyday that i personally consider 'insensitive' but that doesn't suddenly mean i can or should wield the censor stamp of doom. Hell, South Park bastardises the British on a near daily basis but you don't hear me bitching and whining about it and calling for a ban. People like Liam Fox cry wolf but are uneducated and self-interested.
Isn't taking the games out of some stores kinda admitting that theirs something wrong with it. My Fathers in the military, I live on a military base with a gamestop. And I know most military gamers won't have a problem with this, but now there going to have to drive five more miles to the next gamestop to get the game. Not that big of a deal but still, it it can be carried in some stores it should be carried in all stores.
You know what? Censorship is always bad period. Get over it people.
That said, I also think EA kind of sucks, considering they are only doing this to try to rile people up, which is pretty **** tasteless considering that people are currently actually dying at the hands of the Taliban, and then they try to call foul when people react to the controversy angrily.
I'm excited for MW3, where I'm sure you'll be allowed to play a faction that continuously reenacts the brutal sodomy scene from Boys Don't Cry on an elderly transgendered puppy while reciting a holocaust denial speech and trying to criticize the Expendables.
That said, I also think EA kind of sucks, considering they are only doing this to try to rile people up, which is pretty **** tasteless considering that people are currently actually dying at the hands of the Taliban, and then they try to call foul when people react to the controversy angrily.
I'm excited for MW3, where I'm sure you'll be allowed to play a faction that continuously reenacts the brutal sodomy scene from Boys Don't Cry on an elderly transgendered puppy while reciting a holocaust denial speech and trying to criticize the Expendables.